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Bill Barnwell Grades Giants offseason. I concur........
why haven't the giants signed the jets cast offs clady mangold? doesnt seem like there is $ out there for them they can come cheap. Why not add them and create competition. Mangold can't out play Fluker and Jerry for RG? I bet he would and if not at least be a better backup. Clady can't beat out bobby heart? i'm sure he can and Fluker for RT at worse he is better back up LT RT than what we will have.

figure giants will keep 9-10 olinemen

Safe
Pugh, Justin G
Flowers, Ereck T
Richburg, Weston C
Jerry, John G
Hart, Bobby G/T


likely
Fluker, D.J. OG
Bisnowaty, Adam OT
Jones, Brett C

1 of 2 should make the roster as is
Wheeler, Chad OT
Dunker, Jessamen OT

I would cut jones add mangold and cut whoever is worse clady fluker...... if clady is healthy his talent he would likely be the best tackle on the roster. yes if healthy is a big if. what i like about it is. tell him and hart you guys are fighting for RT spot may best man win. If clady does well enough to win great then we have hart backup RT and clady back up LT. if he sucks or is hurt cut him no big deal. we have like 4-5 mil in cap space offer mangold and clady 1.5 mil each and lets go!

Clady twice has made all pro team in AFC at LT once at 23 and at 26. why not gamble a few mil on him jerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES you read that right Clady at 23 age that flowers is at now, Clady was the best LT in AFC.

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHO IS OUR LT IF flowers SUCKS or GETS HURT? AM I MISSING SOMETHING?




New York Giants

What went right

They added weapons for Eli Manning. There were too many moments last season when the Giants were Odell Beckham-or-bust on offense. Some of that could be attributed to a dismal running game, but the Giants needed to upgrade on Victor Cruz and Will Tye in their starting lineup. They pulled off both additions. First, general manager Jerry Reese signed Brandon Marshall to an eminently reasonable two-year deal, with Marshall taking less money to stay in New York after being released by the Jets. On draft night, Reese used his first-round pick on tight end Evan Engram, giving the Giants another excellent athlete to work with in the passing game. Sure, Beckham is still going to create moments of pure magic on his own, but now he and Manning will have more help.

What went wrong

They failed to address a dismal offensive line. For the second season in a row, the Giants' offense was rendered irrelevant at times by a porous offensive line. Inexplicably, for the second year in a row, Reese did close to nothing to address the issue. New York lost another regular in Marshall Newhouse, and the reinforcements Reese brought in are underwhelming. Free-agent signee D.J. Fluker failed at tackle before settling in as a mediocre guard in San Diego, and the first and only draft selection Reese used on a lineman was a sixth-round pick on Adam Bisnowaty. After a season in which the Giants ranked 26th in rushing DVOA and averaged just 3.5 yards per rush attempt, you would think Reese would have put more of an emphasis on re-signing offensive linemen.


Jason Pierre-Paul is the first first-round pick under general manager Jerry Reese to sign a long-term second deal with the team. Mark Alberti/Icon Sportswire
They re-signed Jason Pierre-Paul to an exorbitant deal and let Jonathan Hankins leave. While 2016 was arguably JPP's best season as a run-defender and a major upgrade on the player he was during a limited 2015 campaign, Pierre-Paul is now 28 years old and already has back surgery and the effects of that traumatic fireworks disaster on his medical history. It's reasonable for the Giants to want him around, but it seemed irresponsible to throw a staggering $40 million in guarantees at a player with two double-digit-sack campaigns as a pro, especially in a year when the draft was full of edge rushers and defensive linemen.

As for the situation on the interior, it's debatable whether the Giants should have brought Hankins back at the three-year, $27 million rate he picked up from the Colts. Even for the Giants, committing to Hankins would have been devoting too many resources to the defensive line, given that Pierre-Paul, Olivier Vernon and Damon Harrison are on all massive deals. It was surprising, though, to see the Giants nominally replace Hankins by drafting Alabama nose tackle Dalvin Tomlinson in the second round. He profiles, essentially, as Harrison: a two-down, interior run-stopper who is limited as a pass-rusher. Having one of those guys is good. But two? Not so much.

What's next?

Re-sign Justin Pugh and Weston Richburg. As bad as the Giants' offensive line is, it would get significantly worse if Reese were to allow his two best linemen to leave in free agency next offseason. Locking Pugh up before the guard market took a huge leap forward this offseason would have been prudent, given his ability to step outside and play right tackle.


Richburg, who has been overshadowed by the presence of Travis Frederick in the same division, should also attract upper-echelon-center money if he hits the free-agent market after his rookie deal expires this season. The Giants already have $156 million committed to their 2018 cap before signing Pugh or Richburg, and they have to lock up Beckham, who will be a free agent in 2019. Given those factors, they might not have long-term deals for the offense's two competent linemen in their plans.

Grade: C-
Edited by Air273 - 5/17/17 at 6:56pm
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