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[jape]

ARSENAL IS BACK  

see you chumps in february! 

world class lmao

 

[rolaholic]

bruh fans of EPL clubs' standards dropping like people who peaked in high school hitting the real world

Ish is rough out in the British isle

I'll take that reality , we'll still be in second 2 points behind with a chance to only live with this for a day. Man Poo are still a dumpster fire. Hats off to the saints on bossing the entire match

Man, I'm just laughing at what Roh and Jada said about us being put back to reality because we lost today, if you'd have won today, we'd be second, a point behind. I'd have taken hat reality

I did say I hoped I was wrong ,I ended up being wrong in a different way though...never change Gunners

 

[PRIME]

Bruh, we gave away 4 goals doe

 

[Coupé It]

I swear to god, Arsenal and/or Arsene Wenger are allergic to the number "1". It's like they avoid the "number 1" by all means necessary



As for United

Let's go LvG, he seems like he's about to have a nervous breakdown and might quit. He's too old for this. I swear if Jose goes to United in these upcoming weeks, I'm going to flip ****.

I don't know why but I always Mou at Old Trafford

 

[cs02132]

Why German soccer wants American players

Spoiler

“If a player from the United States would come here and score every week,” said Michael Schade, CEO of Bayer Leverkusen, one of the biggest clubs in the history of German football, “it would be a dream come true.”

It’s a jarringly direct quote and one that shocked me and other international reporters in the Leverkusen boardroom a month ago. But as Schade, formerly an executive of Bayer AG, the pharmaceutical company that sponsors the club, made it clear that he wasn’t being coy. “I think that America is not only a fantastic country, it’s a growing market for soccer. It’s also a growing market for marketing activities for European soccer clubs, but we have to show up.”

“We have to show up,” it’s a clear statement, one that’s laced with both guilt for the past and pragmatism for the future. The German Bundesliga has been one of Europe’s top leagues stretching back to the dawn of European soccer but it’s a league that in 2015 has struggled to capture the attention of the global soccer market. The reasoning is twofold. On one hand the dominance of Bayern Munich, winners of the last four league titles, has somewhat soured the reputation of the league outside its borders from a competitive standpoint. This is especially pronounced in America where parity is seen as an essential ingredient for sporting activities. Bayern running ramshod over their opponents is somewhat Un-American. Additionally, Germany’s justified (but rather prideful) feelings towards their own football domestically has in turn hampered their global impact, or at the very least facilitated their protracted international efforts.

America is, like it has been throughout history from a more social and political perspective, the new frontier. It’s the new world again, but this time for the beautiful game. From convoluted ideas like ‘The Americas Champions League’ to NBC’s impressive coverage of the Premier League, the potential gains from investing in the fanatic and lucrative American sports market, is no secret.

The Bundesliga is no different, the league has been ramping up its efforts stateside in recent years. Some moves may have appeared subtle in a vacuum but upon closer inspection appear to be part of a more substantial strategy. Bayern Munich opened offices in New York City, a new English-language YouTube channel was created, and other clubs even started their own American-focused entities, Twitter channels and club stores that are distinctly different to their English counterparts. This is all in an attempt to compete with the Premier League, a league that’s marketed itself stateside as the preeminent soccer competition in the world, even supplanting the Uefa Champions League in importance, at least to American fans.

“Maybe in the past we made a few mistakes because the Premier League started 10 years earlier with internationalization. And that was very helpful [to EPL teams] as far as I know. Most of the teams are playing overseas in the summer break,” said Schade.

Schade’s business background tends to shine in these conversations. He doesn’t mince words and he’s very direct. His club is also adopting his directness in their strategies. In less than a month’s time both Leverkusen, Schalke 04 and Ukraine’s Shakhtar Donestk will be in Florida for the second-annual Florida Cup. There the European clubs will take on the local Fort Lauderdale Strikers as well as teams from Brazil and Colombia. It’s designed as a training camp for the players during the Bundesliga’s winter break, but the Florida sun and relaxed atmosphere aside, for the clubs themselves it’s marketing crunch time.

The massive amounts of foreign TV money being pumped into the Premier League has read like a code-red for their competitors: Serie A, La Liga and of course the Bundesliga. European football has always been this broad singular entity, in fact that was the appeal, with so many leagues on showcase a fan has a wide palette from which to choose from. But by venturing abroad early, and with such a focused strategy, the Premier League has positioned itself smartly stateside, taking full advantage of America’s penchant for the solitary sport league (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL). Now everyone is trying to play catch up.

“The USA is a very important market for the Bundesliga and obviously also for our club Schalke 04, and that’s why after having our winter training camps in many other countries we selected the USA as the host,” said Alexander Jobst, head of marketing for Schalke 04. “We expect wonderful training conditions, good weather conditions and of course a challenging tournament which will help expand our brand also in US for the future.”

The Germans are very direct but this isn’t just some ham-fisted approach to delve into the American market either; there are roots here. The German-American connection dates to the annals of the modern US men’s national team in the early 90s, when the likes of the German-born Thomas Dooley donned the stars and stripes for the 1994 World Cup. Today it’s a connection that permeates all facets of US soccer, perhaps even too much according to some.

Still, tapping into this market is a tricky task, which is likely why Schade was so blatant about the desire for a successful American player at the club. “If you know anyone…” he joked to the room.

But what would this even look like? This mythical American striker that would bang in the goals in Germany? How would he affect the game on and off the pitch? Thankfully, this isn’t even solely theoretical, there’s actually a real-life example though we have to go south of the border.

Javier ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez, the Mexican forward who has plied his trade for Manchester United and Real Madrid in recent years, has in no uncertain terms become a behemoth for Bayer Leverkusen. On the pitch the Mexican has been in fine form, he’s scored 17 goals in his last 14 matches and he’s become the club’s talisman winning the Bundesliga Player of the Month award in November. But despite his exploits on the pitch they largely pale in comparison to what he’s done for the club off of it.

20% of the club’s 1.8m Facebook followesr from Bayer 04 Leverkusen are located in Mexico. That’s more than 300,000 fans in total.
Bayer’s Facebook page also has the highest percentage growth among the top European clubs after starting to produce and share content especially tailored for Mexico.
Just six weeks after its launch the Spanish-language Twitter channel has already amassed more than 45k followers.
The Twitter account is quite interesting in fact, as it directly targets newer Leverkusen fans, posting the times for the game broadcasts in Mexico and explanatory tweets about the history of the club and its players. While Chicharito himself hasn’t forced a marketing plan upon Leverkusen he’s certainly guided its current direction. He’s likely the reason behind the club’s American approach in lieu of a more Asian-centered effort. Rest assured when Leverkusen land on American shores on 10 January the Mexican will be top billing.

Still, the Bundesliga is a top league and most importantly a practical one. During our interview Schade spelled out Leverkusen’s strategy for selling Son Heung Min, a fan favorite and star player to Tottenham Hotspur of the Premier League this past summer, in exceedingly practical terms. American players may be desired but the league has no plans to dilute its quality in lieu of a marketing boon.

America has long pined for it’s own Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo, that transcendent player that brings casuals into the sport through a mix of marketability, charisma and on-pitch brilliance. Yet even a player of that caliber likely wouldn’t be needed given Chicharito’s success. Landon Donovan was a viable candidate yet he wanted nothing to do with Europe, at least on a long-term basis. Clint Dempsey, in turn, did have a relatively successful career abroad but the soccer climate stateside wasn’t quite right and much of his success in his prime went unnoticed back home. Then of course there is Freddy Adu, who after all these years may still have been the best chance, but his development was entirely botched as he was hastily forced into a professional life far too early. Of the current crop of Americans currently plying their trade in Germany, Fabian Johnson, John Anthony Brooks and Julian Green among others, there’s a sense that they are far too ‘German’ to truly capture the hearts of the fan base back home.

The Bundesliga also represents the best path to success for American players abroad. American players tend to lack the technical ability to make it in Spain, or the tactical ability to make it in Europe. Not to mention the different cultures require a assimilation on and off the pitch. They aren’t as desired in England as there’s no inherent need to focus on the American market. But in Germany many of the factors align both on and off the pitch, it’s why we’ve seen so many Americans thrive over the years.

But there’s certainly interest and now that German clubs have seen the impact a player can have in the American market they are finely tuned to any other opportunities. One staff member mentioned to me that Chicharito may be the important player in the history of the club in terms of global impact, this is club that’s had the likes of Michael Ballack and Ze Roberto in their ranks in the last 15 years.

“You might dream of a transfer like this, but you can’t expect it,” Schade said recently in an interview with Rheinische Post. In that same interview he referred to the Mexican as “life insurance”. Most of sports media took quote at face value and while I’m sure that Schade’s comments were somewhat a reflection of Chicharito’s recent goal-scoring exploits, his comment may have been a little more literal than perceived.

This is from like 10 pages about but they need to set up youth academies with potential to eventually move onto the academy/first team in Germany. Just set up some academies in New Jersey, Boston, Florida, Denver, and California and I'm sure they'll find a few people

 

[cs02132]

I'm sauced ..I've missed the past 3 arsenal games.. I just started working on mondays like a month ago so I missed the man city game and I'm going to miss the Bournemouth game I wasn't supposed to work today but I had to so I missed the 4-0 wash I work sundays too so I miss a lot of good games..

Nothing better than and a 12:30 game

 

[lovehateself]

PSG and Arsenal looking at midfielder Jurgen Damm of Tigres

 

[rck3sactown]

The world is hungry for more Mexican players 

always wished GDS flourished at Tottenham tbh

 

[AZwildcats]

PSG and Arsenal looking at midfielder Jurgen Damm of Tigres

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[tomdiginson]

How was it getting that werk from Wutford?

Lol I like how you asked me this only to get bent over by a struggling Southampton side days later


farsenal gonna farce

 

[imasoleman18]

went to the casino and gambled because i was depressed, double my money and then some and went and saw star wars again and now awaiting the time to go celebrate a friends birthday the icing on the cake would be waking up to a sweet sweet notification about this moron being unemployed

 

[8pm at msg]

Never heard of Jurgen Damm but yeah that's an interesting and depressing list of facts

 

[PRIME]

Per is the slowest **** in the world tho.

Another L for us today...

 

[lovehateself]

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[Coupé It]

went to the casino and gambled because i was depressed, double my money and then some and went and saw star wars again and now awaiting the time to go celebrate a friends birthday the icing on the cake would be waking up to a sweet sweet notification about this moron being unemployed

You want Jose in Sole?

But damn dude, you've changed. I remember when Moyes was on the hot seat, you might have been the only one holding Moyes down. Now you're pushing LVG to bow out in disgrace

Footy changes us

 

[8pm at msg]

So with the ball he has stone feet

Without the ball he's a Mexi-German rocket

 

[QU!K]

Terrible game from the gunners,

Southhampton executed a good game plan and managed to contain ozil

Campbell should have started on the left and walcott on the right

We need Alexis back

Shane long terrorized kos and per

Saints were in control all game

 

[QU!K]

How was it getting that werk from Wutford?

Lol I like how you asked me this only to get bent over by a struggling Southampton side days later


farsenal gonna farce

Touché

 

[jape]

Bruh, we gave away 4 goals doe

thats cause koscielny is the best defender in the BPL

but yeah koscielny is def going to lock up suarez lmao

 

[jape]

i don't believe this list at all.

1st off neymar is faster than messi. this is a fact. 2nd of all mathieu was clocked as the fastest player on this barcelona squad. this is also a fact. 

 

[Coupé It]

Hate to agree with jeje, but we've seen these types of speed lists before and they're never reliable or credible....

And that's because....WAYNE ROONEY is always on the "top 10" list of the fastest players in the world, which is COMPLETE BULL. In what planet?

Dude isn't even one of the top 10 fasted players on United

 

[nomadicsole21]

Scumbag Giggs can probably give Rooney a challenge in a race right now

 

[tomdiginson]

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A list of lies

 

[mastamind89]

that list is horrible....no Neymar, Bellerin, etc

 

[QU!K]

Bellerin already been clocked at as faster than Walcott