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Christmas isnt real....
inb4 the people who were mad about that contract have a field day.
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inb4 the people who were mad about that contract have a field day.
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Can you blame them? It was pretty ridiculous to be paying someone THAT much money without really seeing how he'd perform this season. The Lakers need to amnesty Kobe if they want to save their franchise. 2015 is a big free agency year.
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Does that mean Kobe won't be making his debut on 12.25 after all?? 
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Dwight is smiling somewhere.
He is a genius.
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Can I say kobe is washed yet?
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One or two possessions a game? Disagreehe drives to the lane and shoots 3s. he actually only takes 2 types of shots mostly. So if we're splitting hairs over a possession or two a game, then cool. No doubt he has periods of bad shot selection, but for the most part he is gold offensively.
I won't be naiive and say there aren't things he clearly needs to work on, but to say it as a detraction for what he's done is way much. Calling him a black hole, ballstopper,im thinking like what do yall actually expect. if he stopped shooting, would the Rockets score more? Would the team avg be the same but more people scoring in double figures? would you rather someone else? ha, boys just being nitpicky and pushing agendas on how they fell about a player
quoted for truth. a lot of people are smoking dope and the avg fan base is extremely fickle. it's a "what have you done for me now" mentality in this here information age, i suppose.
I understand where you're coming from in terms of people being nitpicky and perhaps exaggerating by calling him a black hole though. I personally think he's been a black hole this year especially compared to last season, regardless of what statistics say. I feel like he moved the ball around much differently last year, and he didn't have sticky hands once the ball got to him
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Oh, this is D'Antoni's fault too now? Kobe's been playing 30 minutes a game this year.
The guy has over 54,000 minutes on his body. Can anyone really say they're surprised by this?
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No one except the Lakers front office...Oh, this is D'Antoni's fault too now? Kobe's been playing 30 minutes a game this year.
The guy has over 54,000 minutes on his body. Can anyone really say they're surprised by this?
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Da'ntoni's fault Kobe is old
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Welp, this really sucks.
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i dont think anyone has said they've never seen this. but to the point where you're calling him a black hole or ball stopper?
again, the man averages 25 points, 6 assists a game and is top 3 at getting to the line. Is KD a black hole? Is Lebron, the nba superstar playing chess, a black hole when he's orchestrating their offense?
and I ask this question to the Harden detractors pretty much every time and get very wishy washy responses: Who/what would yall rather have on the Rockets squad instead? who is realistically a better option? should they have tanked and tried to come up through drafting?
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Oh, this is D'Antoni's fault too now? Kobe's been playing 30 minutes a game this year.
The guy has over 54,000 minutes on his body. Can anyone really say they're surprised by this?
This is what I've been telling people around the office.
Kobe is OLD (relatively). Some of you guys just need to deal with that
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Karma and father time are no punk!
Not to mention that rushing back and $48.5 milly not looking to bright now.
On another note...the lakers might make the playoffs n win a couple in the first round now
Not to mention that rushing back and $48.5 milly not looking to bright now.
On another note...the lakers might make the playoffs n win a couple in the first round now
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what you articulate as more of a black hole, i articulate as running the offense through him more consistently. there's really not a better plan out there imo. boys want the Rockets to start looking like last Rockets squad that "competed" as a "contender" every year and undoubtedly got bounced 1st round regardless of the situation
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Some of you people are really just crazy
Actually they're really not crazy. Here are the top NBA scorers of all time and their fg%. I only accounted for scoring Guards/Forwards.
Carmelo Anthony is currently #58 at 46% career wise.
2 Karl Malone = 52%
3 Michael Jordan = 50%
4 KOBE BRYANT = 45%
10 Oscar Robertson = 48%
11 Dominique Wilkins = 46%
12 John Havlicek = 44%
13 Alex English = 51%
14 DIRK NOWITZKI = 48%
16 Reggie Miller = 47%
17 Jerry West = 47%
19 Allen Iverson = 43%
20 PAUL PIERCE = 45%
22 RAY ALLEN = 45%
25 Adrian Dantley = 54%
31 Elgin Baylor = 43%
32 Vince Carter = 44%
33 Clyde Drexler = 47%
35 Larry Bird = 50%
36 Lebron James = 49%
43 Antawn Jamison = 45%
45 Bernard King = 51%
61 Tracy Mcgrady = 44%
62. Glen Rice = 46%
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Of course not. Anyone who doesnt have their emotions invested in this can see that it was a bad move from the get-go and that this injury is not really surprising.
Its still gonna happen though, we know how people are
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Um, he hyperextended his knee. End the night there. That's a coaching error. Ns just like to talk.Oh, this is D'Antoni's fault too now? Kobe's been playing 30 minutes a game this year.
The guy has over 54,000 minutes on his body. Can anyone really say they're surprised by this?
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Oh, this is D'Antoni's fault too now? Kobe's been playing 30 minutes a game this year.
The guy has over 54,000 minutes on his body. Can anyone really say they're surprised by this?
Um, he hyperextended his knee. End the night there. That's a coaching error. Ns just like to talk.
nobody is gonna tell kobe to sit. the man is a warrior and you would have to drag him off. i mean...he shot freethrows with a torn achillies. even though im not a huge fan, i respect the man's gm on the court.
sucks that kobe probably wont threaten kareems scoring record (even though lebron/durant or some of these other young guys will threaten that record as well)
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#58 is about what I would expect.
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**** all of that. Precautions should have been made. I see someone clenching their knee, you're not getting back on the court period.
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With 5-6 years left of scoring 20-28ppg? Dude is gonna top 15-20 when he retires. Whether you like it or not.
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Dat 2 year extension.......
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[h1]Bernstein: Rose No Longer Humble, Hometown Kid[/h1]
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Derrick Rose. (Photo by Mike Stobe/Getty Images)
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(CBS) Complaining while not playing is a bad look for someone who has sold a phony reputation as a humble, team-oriented kid.
According to a story in the New York Daily News, Rose is now unhappy that the Bulls will have to reconstruct their roster in an effort to win a championship, apparently thinking that such a move would be a waste of his precious time and efforts.
“Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’”
Well, too bad.
What does he think they have, and where does he think it’s going? Most importantly, what does he not understand about the primary reason for the Bulls’ current plight? It takes some nerve to call out his employers after they have paid him 30% of their salary cap to miss consecutive seasons.
This is typical behavior from a player who has always done only what is in his personal best interest, everybody else be damned. He’ll take every last dollar, and enjoy all the team-supplied resources for medical consultations, surgeries, rehabilitation programs and various therapists, only to ignore their professional opinions just because he feels like it. And don’t bother asking him for even token assistance in welcoming potential free agents either, because he doesn’t want to.
At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.
It doesn’t help anything that Rose is not among the brightest bulbs, and that he still lives in an insular camp of cronies that is too often at odds with his team. It was understandable for him to be shielded from Englewood gangs and other unsavory influences enough to get him a fair shot at a pro career, but enough already. He’s 25 years old, in his fifth NBA season, is worth a quarter-billion dollars and has a family of his own, yet his uneducated oaf of an older brother remains the empowered svengali.
Reggie Rose is a clown, using the guise of brotherly love to aggrandize himself after a failed career as both player and coach that was marked by bizarre, immature behavior. Bulls officials have become increasingly frustrated by continued communication problems with Rose due to Reggie’s invasive influence, with one source telling WSCR “It’s like talking to a wall.”
Perhaps the best advice came from Charles Barkley last February, when he opined on TNT that instead of complaining about Bulls business, Reggie should “shut the hell up.”
Another problem is the presence of BJ Armstrong as part of Rose’s group as one of his agents. Armstrong’s personal bitterness toward Paxson and the Bulls runs long and deep: he’s still angry that he didn’t get the chance to replace Jerry Krause as GM and Paxson did, and the two former teammates are not on speaking terms. As long as he is allied with Rose there will be an undercurrent of conflict, with any comment or action subject to interpretation regarding ulterior motive.
Derrick Rose needs to grow up, wise up, and seize control of his image and career before he and the bozos around him fritter away a mountain of good will, scattering his civic capital to the winds.
He’s got the money, and that’s it.
He says he’s all about winning a championship, but then he carps about rebuilding when it appears his team is trying to do what it must to give him that very opportunity. That’s just dumb.
And it’s certainly not humble, so we can stop with that. The quiet superstar is quiet not because he is naturally self-effacing, but because he is bad at talking. The local-kid-made-good storyline is over. He likes to let his game speak for him, but then refuses to play even when instructed to by doctors. He opts for cartilage repair that requires a longer-term recovery, and then lacks the basic understanding of how that changes the team’s title trajectory.
As always, the Bulls are trying to take care of themselves while Derrick Rose tries to take care of Derrick Rose on the Bulls’ dime.
Sadly, the two endeavors don’t always seem to be working toward the same ends.
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