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I'm in the middle of it now....very interesting.
I'm in the middle of it now....very interesting.
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Originally Posted by Burns1923
My advice: Ditch this book and discard what you did read.
Tolle's "spiritual guidance" is nothing more than self-reliance and self-justification.
It completely ignores any personal accountability to God and the need for a Savior (Jesus).
Pick up a Bible instead.
Further reading suggestion: "More Than A Carpenter" by Josh McDowell.
Why do we need a Savior though? And he doesn't ignore personal accountability to God, just to one organized religion.Originally Posted by Burns1923
My advice: Ditch this book and discard what you did read.
Tolle's "spiritual guidance" is nothing more than self-reliance and self-justification.
It completely ignores any personal accountability to God and the need for a Savior (Jesus).
Pick up a Bible instead.
Further reading suggestion: "More Than A Carpenter" by Josh McDowell.
Benjamin Franklin - "Lighthouses are more useful than churches"
John Adams - " This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it"
Thomas Jefferson - "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man"
Your response is to quote "thinkers" as a source of wisdom?
I can come up with some profound quotes and then you can quote me if you wish.
The result will be the same as the quotes above: prejudiced, myopic opinions based on limited, flawed human reasoning and logic.
You are entitled to your opinion; it's simply helpful in real discussion, however, to check pre-disposed bias at the door.
Apparently, you have not done that.
Back to the thread...
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
Why do we need a Savior though? And he doesn't ignore personal accountability to God, just to one organized religion.Originally Posted by Burns1923
My advice: Ditch this book and discard what you did read.
Tolle's "spiritual guidance" is nothing more than self-reliance and self-justification.
It completely ignores any personal accountability to God and the need for a Savior (Jesus).
Pick up a Bible instead.
Further reading suggestion: "More Than A Carpenter" by Josh McDowell.
I feel the Bible is outdated for the large part, but you can still take some things from it. As far as it being an infallible holy text...ehhh
I am aware of the content of this book. What triggered my questioning was that one of my family members received it as some sort of present and Iresearched Tolle's perspective.Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
Just wondering Burns1923 have you read the book? The author doesn't deny the existence of Jesus or anything, but he just has a different interpretation of his message, which makes more sense to me than believing in the God that my parents forced me to believe in.
Is Jesus the only way into "heaven"? What happens to those who never heard about him at all, yet lived a good life? Do they fry in hell with all the unbelievers, and sinners?
Originally Posted by Burns1923
Benjamin Franklin - "Lighthouses are more useful than churches"
John Adams - " This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it"
Thomas Jefferson - "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man"
Originally Posted by dgk3188
the thing is....
you're making an argument about something false.
so....
yeah
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
Hmmm what you say sounds so convincing, but that may be due to the fact that I was programmed to believe all of that was fact
My question is, what makes you so CERTAIN, that your christian god is the true God and the God of any other religion is a false God?
If you were to ask anyone else from another religion I'm sure they would be totally convinced that their god is the true God, so how do you
know if you are right or wrong? In the book the author says that religion is just a tool used to divide us from one another, instead of unifying us.
And you say only Jesus alone can save me. Save me from what exactly? The bible says that the only way to heaven is accepting Jesus as your personal savior. During the time of Jesus, how would lets say the Incas or Mayans who were on the other side of the earth have heard of the good news? Are they automatically condemned? What about the mentally challenged? Stillborn? Remember the bible says we are all born into sin, so are they going to be crisping in hell?
this thread is going off topic but I don't mind discussion.
Most ancient religions and spiritual traditions share the common insight-that our "normal" state of mind is marred by a fundamental defect. However, out of this insight into the nature of the human condition- we may call it the bad news- arises a second insight: the good news or the possibility of a radical transformation of human consciousness. In Hindu teachings (and sometimes in Buddhism also), the transformation is called enlightenment. In the teachings of Jesus, it is salvation, and in Buddhism, it is the end of suffering. Liberation and awakening are other terms used to describe this transformation.
fundamentally all "religions" are basically the same, or have the same end result.
Do you believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God, nothing omitted and nothing extra included?