ADOS

[largofool]

Black millennial immigrant: MLK was so divisive
Black millennial immigrant 2 : Dr King only dreamed of a handout from the white man. You can't just throw money at the problem.
Black millennial immigrant 3: Russians




@deuce king ...tangibles2020. No black agenda, no vote

 

[cashbanks]

I love how he is so drunk on xenophobia he can't decide if he should slander immigrants as traitors to their homeland, or as imposters raiding America for resources to send back to their birth countries.

Either way, dude is clearly a bigoted jack *** so I really don't care anymore what nonsense spews in an attempt to smear immigrants.

i'll wait until meth catches wind of it, dude's said enough nutty **** in here to earn himself a little vacation

Honestly wouldn't be shocked if dude wasn't black at all and is just in here looking to stir up hatred and division among black people

 

[hand2handking]

 

[Nouss]

Should black immigrants be proud Americans?

I'm not.

 

[largofool]

i'll wait until meth catches wind of it, dude's said enough nutty **** in here to earn himself a little vacation

Honestly wouldn't be shocked if dude wasn't black at all and is just in here looking to stir up hatred and division among black people

Ados remember how I pointed out how these black immigrant allies behavior is a reflection society’s.
Notice This victim dog whistling for the authorities to silence the voice of someone not in agreement with them
Same tactics in accusing blacks not in alignment with their thoughts of being a rebel rouser, Russian bot, troll, etc
I’ve been nothing but cordial throughout this thread and infact have quoted several self identified black immigrants calling names and levying insults.

 

[largofool]

I'm not.

and that’s the difference.
My ancestors had a hand in the creation of this country.
So I can have a sense of pride in it while condemning it’s most evil actions

 

[largofool]

Black millennial immigrant 1: Corretta Scott King was a xenophobic, anti-immigrant conservative
Black millennial immigrant 2: #cancelcorretta
Black millennial immigrant 3: Russians

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58c83a50e4b05675ee9c5adb

The Forgotten Letter of Coretta Scott King
In any age of rapidly changing political and partisan perspectives, it is perhaps well to remember how the immigration debate was originally framed back in 1986 when the Reagan/Bush Amnesty plan, put forth to placate the demands of Corporate America for cheap labor, was first enacted. Ignored at the time were the protests which began as early as 1969, when Cesar Chavez and members of the United Farm Workers marched with the Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale to the border with Mexico to demand the cessation of employers’ practice of importing illegal labor as a means of cutting wages and reducing thousands of their workers to the most grinding poverty.

The government’s response to such protests and demands for economic justice? In the 1980s at a time when African American teenage unemployment approached a disgraceful 80 percent, Big Business cynically petitioned the INS for more visas for cheap foreign labor on grounds that there was an “unskilled labor shortage”. They largely got what they demanded. While Democratscourageously resisted such blatant attempts to lower the wages of legal Hispanic and African Americans, Reagan Amnesty apologists claimed that Americans wouldn’t stoop to perform the “dirty work” that only illegal workers would perform, ignoring the obvious fact that unemployed legal workers gladly and gratefully collect garbage and work in the coal mines if decent wages were paid.

In fact the pleas for economic justice in America were made many years before by the great African American educator, Booker T. Washington, who made his famous “cast down your bucket where you are” speech at the Atlanta International Exposition in 1895. Having recognized the racist and notorious practice of Big Business of importing and hiring cheap immigrant labor in order to avoid hiring African Americans, Washington pleaded: (T)o those (of you) who look to the incoming of those of foreign birth, cast down your bucket where you are. (If you but do so) we shall stand by you with a devotion that no foreigner can approach, ready to interlace our industrial, commercial, civil and religious life with yours.”

It should be no surprise, therefore, that these demands for economic justice were taken up by the wife of Martin Luther King, who in 1991 joined with eight CEO’s of America’s leading African American organizations to oppose Republican Senator Orin Hatch’s bill to do away with sanctions against employers who persisted in hiring illegal aliens as a means of discriminating and reducing the wages of against African Americans.

“We are concerned, Senator Hatch” Coretta Scott King wrote in her now largely forgotten letter, “That your proposed remedy…will cause another problem—the revival of …discrimination against black and brown U.S. documented workers, in favor of cheap labor.”

Given the success of Big Business in lobbying the U.S. government to ignore these pleas for economic justice — on grounds of “humanitarianism” no less — it is perhaps the ultimate irony that this success has translated also in flipping the partisan narrative to the point where even legal immigrants have been tricked into adopting the Reagan/Bush agenda against their own economic interest under the ideological banner of the party that for decades opposed it.

But there may now be signs of enlightenment by those who have been most oppressed by the Reagan/Bush agenda. In 2014, by a strong majority of 53 percent, male Latinos voted for the Texas Republican Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who had promised to stop the notorious practice of luring illegal immigrants—even little children-- to their deaths in the desert with such promises as amnesty, and in-state-tuition.

And so, gradually the tide may be turning in Booker T. Washington’s and Coretta Scott King’s demand for economic justice. Even in Germany today, where Merkel basked in the “humanitarian” glow of luring hundreds of thousands un-vetted illegal immigrants with promises of cash rewards (but no jobs, of course), the spectacle of teeming throngs of desperate young males being herded into the most degrading “refugee” camps, or worse showered with useless “vouchers,” may be finally revealing to the world the immorality of luring people from their homes, families, and culture for little more than the political aggrandizement of the politicians who created it. The tragedy, of course, is that the billions spent on such self-defeating endeavors could have been instead been spent on providing safety and economic help in zones created for their protection in the home countries.

In America, no true reform can ever come until the most demagogic politicians cease their deliberate obfuscation of the difference between legal and illegal immigration, and begin streamlining the procedures for legal immigration, which is now so difficult that relatively few can navigate or afford it. When this is done, any wall built will always have doors.

 

[cashbanks]

I'm not dog whistling anything I genuinely hope Meth takes a look at some of the hateful **** you've said about black immigrants

I'm not sure why you keep calling me an immigrant either other than it fits your agenda, but if in your world anyone who doesn't agree with your bull**** is an immigrant I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

 

[gry60]

The people of Africa do not share our views simply because they did nit go through systematic slavery outside of South Africa.

This is the only part I disagree with. The degrees of struggle are different, and oppression did take different forms:
- German concentration camps were first experimented in their southern African colonies
- Belgians were ruthless in Congo: you can find pictures of Congolese men/women maimed by the forces of Leopold II for not collecting latex fast enough
- Throughout British and French colonial territories, the infrastructure and social order were redirected towards policies of extraction, which can be summarized as "you - the locals - accept our rule, or we - the colonizers - exile you and your family"

All of this was happening up until the 60s and 70s.

The difference between Africans in the US and African-Americans is that most African immigrants who are not refugees come from well-to-do backgrounds (due to the selective nature the US immigration system). They also come with a certain amount of support (financial or otherwise), which means that quite a few doors are already open to them. Many come with a level of education that is already high, even compared to the overall US population, and a good proportion of them are second/third generation college students. That background, how much they know about the African-American experience, and how much they have witnessed when it comes to living as Black person in America will inform their position on typically African American issues.

 

[debso]

and that’s the difference.
My ancestors had a hand in the creation of this country.
So I can have a sense of pride in it while condemning it’s most evil actions

no pride in our people being taken, split apart, force fed, beaten and raped, chained and forced into boats and sent off to north, south and central America and the Caribbean and sold and resold.

None. Forced to build this country and others with nothing in return but rape, murder, indoctrination, etc.

They tried to take humanity from our ppl.

They still treat us like we arent human.

There is no way I could have pride in this or any other colonized country built off the backs of our ppl.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I'm not dog whistling anything I genuinely hope Meth takes a look at some of the hateful **** you've said about black immigrants

I'm not sure why you keep calling me an immigrant either other than it fits your agenda, but if in your world anyone who doesn't agree with your bull**** is an immigrant I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

He is just making up strawman to peddle some anti-immigrant nonsense.

Trying to act like Coretta Scott King is making similar arguments to the nonsense he has posted in here is vile too.

Using civil rights leaders as a shield for his bigotry is top shelf buffoonery.

 

[largofool]

no pride in our people being taken, so it apart, force fed, beaten and raped, chained and forced into boats and sent off to north, south and central America and the Caribbean and sold and resold.

None. Forced to build this country and others with nothing in return but rape, murder, indoctrination, etc.

They tried to take humanity from our ppl.

They still treat us like we arent human.

There is no way I could have pride in this or any other colonized country built off the backs of our ppl.

Ok

 

[hand2handking]

the thing i never understand

is about how they say africans sold other africans into slavery

(other than the whole they were prisoners of war thing)

is how if white people show up with guns snatching people

then go to a chief and tell them hand over more or we kill you too

like isnt that like robbery or coercion and not like a sale?

like they probably gave people under the duress of threat of everyone being exterminated and fought back enough to draw a standstill

to where it had to become a "gentlemanly" agreement type of thing

but its still inherent the guns and violence whites had at their disposal

 

[sharpshooter718]

the thing i never understand

is about how they say africans sold other africans into slavery

(other than the whole they were prisoners of war thing)

is how if white people show up with guns snatching people

then go to a chief and tell them hand over more or we kill you too

like isnt that like robbery or coercion and not like a sale?

like they probably gave people under the duress of threat of everyone being exterminated and fought back enough to draw a standstill

to where it had to become a "gentlemanly" agreement type of thing

but its still inherent the guns and violence whites had at their disposal

Africans never sold other Africans into slavery. That's the white man's trick to fool you into beliving we weren't all across the globe before 1492...

The queen and the vatican had a treaty with the moors... the moors told the queen and the vatican where they could go to enrich themselves. The moors traveled the globe long before any European was taught how to bathe.

The caribbean, hAlf of south America ,, Australia had plenty of black people long before the European invasions wiped out these civilizations through conquest and hate...

Before 1492, the moors ruled western Europe in particular Spain and Portugal. The statues of blackamoors still stand in the streets of Spain today...
The reason for spaniards having olive skin and curly hair comes from the moors who spent 600 hundred Years ruling the land...


We must know our history in order to be on the same page in the future

 

[tay1]

Africans never sold other Africans into slavery. That's the white man's trick to fool you into beliving we weren't all across the globe before 1492...

The queen and the vatican had a treaty with the moors... the moors told the queen and the vatican where they could go to enrich themselves. The moors traveled the globe long before any European was taught how to bathe.

The caribbean, hAlf of south America ,, Australia had plenty of black people long before the European invasions wiped out these civilizations through conquest and hate...

Before 1492, the moors ruled western Europe in particular Spain and Portugal. The statues of blackamoors still stand in the streets of Spain today...
The reason for spaniards having olive skin and curly hair comes from the moors who spent 600 hundred Years ruling the land...


We must know our history in order to be on the same page in the future

There were African chiefs who were complicit in trading. Not saying a majority or many but there were some .I don't know how you can just flat out deny that

 

[hand2handking]

There were African chiefs who were complicit in trading. Not saying a majority or many but there were some .I don't know how you can just flat out deny that

but is that trading tho?

like if i put a gun in ur face and tell you give me your wallet is that a trade?

 

[tay1]

but is that trading tho?

like if i put a gun in ur face and tell you give me your wallet is that a trade?

Trading didn't always occur in that manner. Early in the trade, the two sides were on an equal footing regarding trading. It wasn't until it became much larger in scope that it got to that. Even then, some still sold willingly. We all know there are those who will sell out their own people for money

 

[Nouss]

I asked largofool how he felt about non immigrant blacks disagreeing with him.

Dude said, at least they weren't patronizing.

Im done b.

 

[hand2handking]

Trading didn't always occur in that manner. Early in the trade, the two sides were on an equal footing regarding trading. It wasn't until it became much larger in scope that it got to that. Even then, some still sold willingly. We all know there are those who will sell out their own people for money

While I can't disagree it still seems self serving to a particular people to paint it that way

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Africans never sold other Africans into slavery. That's the white man's trick to fool you into beliving we weren't all across the globe before 1492...

The queen and the vatican had a treaty with the moors... the moors told the queen and the vatican where they could go to enrich themselves. The moors traveled the globe long before any European was taught how to bathe.

The caribbean, hAlf of south America ,, Australia had plenty of black people long before the European invasions wiped out these civilizations through conquest and hate...

Before 1492, the moors ruled western Europe in particular Spain and Portugal. The statues of blackamoors still stand in the streets of Spain today...
The reason for spaniards having olive skin and curly hair comes from the moors who spent 600 hundred Years ruling the land...


We must know our history in order to be on the same page in the future

 

[largofool]

I asked largofool how he felt about non immigrant blacks disagreeing with him.

Dude said, at least they weren't patronizing.

Im done b.

my exact statement was as follows

Its especially patronizing for black immigrants and their offspring to try to dictate the terms of the repayments owed to us.

this statement was made in the context of black immigrants saying ADOS should only be offered free education, no cash.
you proceeded to inquiry on my feelings on ADOS who feel as though money isn't owed and I said I felt that it wasn't patronizing compared to black immigrants who share the same thoughts.

Now 2 weeks later declare you're "done". Im not sure if you're legitimately confused or feigning ignorance. I suspect the latter considering the delayed reaction.

two people can say the same exact thing to you and your reaction be totally different depending on who said it. b.

 

[gry60]

Trading didn't always occur in that manner. Early in the trade, the two sides were on an equal footing regarding trading. It wasn't until it became much larger in scope that it got to that. Even then, some still sold willingly. We all know there are those who will sell out their own people for money

Sad but true.

There is a reason some Western African chiefs apologized to Black Americans for their participation in the slave trade (particularly in Ghana, where it is estimated that 75% of the trading posts were located).

It is history that is not taught in African schools either, because it gives agency to African leaders and it goes against the idea that the West is 100% responsible for the condition of the continent.

It is good politics to always point at the Western Boogeyman while the money for development projects disappear from public coffers and reappear in a president's account in Swiss banks.

Our leaders have been enablers.

 

[tay1]

Sad but true.

There is a reason some Western African chiefs apologized to Black Americans for their participation in the slave trade (particularly in Ghana, where it is estimated that 75% of the trading posts were located).

It is history that is not taught in African schools either, because it gives agency to African leaders and it goes against the idea that the West is 100% responsible for the condition of the continent.

It is good politics to always point at the Western Boogeyman while the money for development projects disappear from public coffers and reappear in a president's account in Swiss banks.

Our leaders have been enablers.

One reason for whatever tension between African Americans and Africans are that we don't know each others history. I've had it told to me and read numerous times how Africans don't know much about the enslavement that went on here. Which is sad. Also sad we don't know some of their history as well. If we did so, I believe there would be even more understanding between us

 

[largofool]

I'm not dog whistling anything I genuinely hope Meth takes a look at some of the hateful **** you've said about black immigrants

I'm not sure why you keep calling me an immigrant either other than it fits your agenda, but if in your world anyone who doesn't agree with your bull**** is an immigrant I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

Do METH a favor and quote and report the hateful statements ive made towards black immigrants.

Team ADOS look at this victim crying for online moderators to silence me. We've been called, stupid, dumb, financially illiterate, bigots, ignorant bastards, buffoons, xenophobes, rightwingers, Russians, jackasse$, divisive, etc. amongst other things in this thread title ADOS and we have cordially remained on code, holding our position while refusing to engage in the mud slinging. And the snowflake running to the authorities crying foul, check out his following statements

I'm not an immigrant you ignorant bastard

I’m just not stupid enough to tell black people to hold out their say in government while waiting on a big bag of money to get dropped in their lap

Meanwhile white supremacists are doing everything they can to keep blacks from voting while sprinting to the ballot themselves and here you are advising blacks to lend in helping hand in that effort like a damn fool.

smart dumb *****s preaching not to vote should just wear klan hoods, you're already doing their work for them

 

[sugafree]

I could never be pro black again......these fools worst than white folks with the deflection.
Spring cleaning is a must before we can even consider anything in 2019
Yuck....