Another star goes broke vol. Allen Iverson

Originally Posted by reener

Originally Posted by Deuce King

He might be broke, but he'll always be a legend.

problem is that alone won't pay his bills.
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 Cold but true.
 
Originally Posted by ninjahood

I'm sayin...son can still b instant offense off da bench...

Iverson is not a team player and that is why nobody wants him coupled with his bad attitude.
 
Originally Posted by Antidope

Originally Posted by blakep267

I dont understand why people say they cant feel bad. he is human. I personally dont care about the money aspect, but the fact that he's turned to alchoholism and has lost his family is what is sad to me.
Exactly. Its not even about the money, the guy blew almost 200 million dollars nothing can be said there, its the way he went out that really gets me. He should be:
A. Allowed to retire as an NBA player
B. Allowed to retire as a Sixer
C. Given a chance to contribute to the NBA in some way shape or form.

The NFL always does this. They find room for first ballot HoF players doing stuff other than playing all the time, and it means next to nothing how much they wyled out while they were playing, the NBA has done next to nothing to try and accommodate AI. Its to the point where one of the greatest basketball players of all time is an afterthought and in some circles a joke and it just isnt right to me. He brought a lot of it on himself no doubt, but hes AI, now that hes humbled he'd prob take it all like a man.

Every NBA team has 1 player who they could release to make room for AI, pretty sure every NBA team has one player who AIs flat out better than. I also didnt limit it to just playing, you mean to tell me an NBA team (philly in particular) doesnt have room for AI on staff? He cant be an assistant coach? He cant commentate? He cant get a shot at being an analyst? He cant do something?
I think he's humbled and would accept any role hes given. I know they owe him nothing but they should just do it, its AI
Do you really think AI wants to work a front office job?
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From what I've read dude has damn near been blackballed from the league... the NBA is like a very exclusive club and if you mess around with your membership they just don't let you back in
 
I heard AI been sighting in the clubs in Atlanta and dude was getting 0 play from the females with his cup and the forever alone face.

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Originally Posted by K2theAblaM

I will never understand NT's infatuation with this bum.
you serious?  it's easy to understand NT's infatuation with AI...he plays the thug; baller role
AI is my fav. player because I am Sixers fan but he's an idiot and got what he deserved.  He is one of the rudest; nastiest people you will ever meet...maybe this will be humbling
 
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A.I. is a SCUM BAG. 

I know soooooo many stories of him around Philly just being a complete doosh, ignoring kids etc..

My boy did work at his house and said there were just dozens of trash bags full with unworn $2,000 jeans and what not. Price tag still on. 

My uncles casino he was working at kicked him out permanently for peeing in a plant 15 FEET from the bathroom. His mother used to wipe his mouth while he was bombed sitting at the tables. 

SCUM BAG.

I have no sympathy. Go work at McDonalds for the rest of your life.  
 
^^ why? its annoying as hell with him in the clubs. Been in the same spot dozens of times with him. 30 people just surround him making walking anywhere a pain in the Ace. It was always cool for me though cause the bar would open up and I could get drinks alot faster.
 
Originally Posted by mjmoney23

Can someone elaborate on him being blackballed/falling out with the NBA?
Long but good read...
[h2]David Stern wants Allen Iverson Dead[/h2]
Donald Christopher

January 9, 2007

"Art is not a seperate activity, in itself or for itself: it is a social activity, a technique of living, a handicraft in fact."
-Leopold Senghor, African poet

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[/td][/tr][tr][td]Allen Iverson battles the
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In the corporate powerhouse known as the NBA, its commissioner, the affirmative David Stern, wants Allen Iverson dead. Not deceased as in the Godfather of Soul James Brown (rest in peace) but dead as in the boxing career of Mike Tyson. He wants the somewhat detrimental image that the urban icon ad troubled NBA superstar represents to be done and completely over with.

The party is over. There's nothing happening. Go home.

Oh, it's nothing personal. It's just that the NBA is a long-standing enterprise which generates billions of dollars and as the case with any business, the product itself always has to be protected.

Perhaps originally, Stern underestimated the global impact that Iverson, an exquisite product of the Hip Hop Generation, would have upon his exuberant arrival into the NBA. When the "powers that be" instructively inserted the name Allen Iverson into its ever-present and money-driven marketing machine, it imminently failed to properly analyze the intangibles of a person built on being respected not for what others want him to be but simply for being himself. You see, Iverson is the definition of real. Not how the term is defined in Webster's Dictionary, but how it is widely perceived amongst today's generation -- Generation Y. Real, meaning what you see is what you get, and not attempting to be anything other than who or what he matter-of-factly is. No hidden clauses. No fine print. No unanswered questions. There is nothing false nor fake about him. Simply put, when you look at Iverson, what you see is the unsolicited truth. He is also the reason why fellow NBA superstar Kobe Bryant is widely considered as being fake.

With Iverson, it is never about being accepted by mainstream America because, as with many beliefs of urban America, it's not as if they are accepted anyway. As urbanized as they come, Iverson brought along the street-born culture with him into the NBA. Now it's highly impossible that Stern can change an entire culture without suffering the same fate as Saddam Hussein, but he can possibly change the manner in which his product is affected by culture.

When it appeared as if everyone and their momma was swinging from the...um, gym shorts of Stern favorite Michael Jordan, there was a playground-flavored rookie in Iverson who arrived into the league flaunting the persona of America's Most Wanted. And never afraid to say whatever he wanted. True to his gangsta, he seemingly "took" the spotlight from Jordan. The upstart rookie's double-crossover administered on His Airness during a game may have had something to do with it. Iverson "shook" MJ. The move made the ever-popular Jordan look silly, and it also signaled a braid-less Iverson's arrival by showing the world that he had some junk in his trunk as well. The NBA wasn't going to give the spotlight to Iverson; he was going to have to take it. And he did.

Unlike the cat that always showed up at the playground looking like a true baller until you find out after having picked him first on your team that he has little or no game, Iverson does have game. Mad Game. He can hold his own with anyone in the league. A prolific scorer with suberb handles, he possesses the skills to "take you out" on the basketball court. During the filming of the Reebok commercial marketing his A6 gym shoes, rapper Jadakiss emphatically stated, "The league implemented a zone to try and stop him." Pound for pound, Iverson is arguably the best player in the game.

Iverson is also a definitive illustration of the Hip Hop Generation's infatuation with both force and change -- the wild romance with independence. A generation which believes only in what it can see. His relevance gets swiftly to the sobering reality of career sanctioned "freedom" -- the ambivalent social movement that seems to undermine the dream of NBA success. His blatant emergence symbolized a compounding presence, one of, "We're here..." In that churning atmosphere, every dreamy-eyed kid who spends hours on a playground knows the excitement of this kind of culture quake. Likewise, there was a great enthusiam in the way a player with the talent level of Iverson connected with his generation's public feeling of what young people had in their hearts which society had previously ignored -- you don't have to respect us, but we don't have to respect you either.

Surely, there will come along those who may emulate the walking emblem of contemporary chaos that Iverson is, but just as the case with hip hop music, there will be nothing remotely like the real thing. For instance, rap artist The Game may entertain you, but he doesn't quite grab you with the same force that late gangsta rapper Eazy-E (Eric Wright) succeeded in when his voice glared through your stereo speakers informing you of the ills and pitfalls of street life in urban America. Eazy-E simply lived his life and spoke about it in his lyrics while The Game is essentially given an account of the expressions of Eazy E. While the narrator of a story can be just as powerful as the writer, it's the person who creates that demands your respect. The Game can only reminds you of Eazy. Others will only remind you of Iverson. Again, there is nothing like the real thing.

Iverson's personification of today's generation is evident by the amount of love and excitement shown for him. His coming of age made the NBA a more hip environment, or as Jada so eloquently put it, "He brought the hood to the game and they love him for the braids and tats."

Allen Iverson is used to controversy following him. As both a high school basketball and football standout at Bethel High School in Hampton, Virginia, the 17 year old was found guilty of a felony charge of "maiming-by-mob" and was sentenced to five years in prison for striking a woman in the head with a chair during a bowling alley brawl which Iverson claim was started by racial slurs. Due to the received publicity the event garnered, he was eventually pardoned by then-Governor Douglas Wilder before the Virginia Court of Appeals overturned the conviction, citing insufficient evidence of his guilt, which allowed him to attend Georgetown University and presume his basketball career. As a member of the Hoyas, you would think he would've gone out of his way to avoid the public eye. Not Iverson. As a freshman, the phenom star drove a Mercedes-Benz around campus. So much from staying away from the spotlight.

In 1996, after just two years in college, Iverson was first player selected in the NBA Draft by the Philadelphia 76ers. Despite his free-spirited nature and past run-ins with the law, the Sixers annointed the barely six foot, 165 pound player as the savior of the franchise. The City of Philadelphia knew of the incredible talent they were getting, but little did they know they would also be receiving a young man who would later come to define and personify his generation.

At first, Iverson would draw the criticism of NBA great Charles Barkley, who ridiculed the flamboyant rookie for his attitude, his style of dress, and the large entourage which appeared everywhere the rookie was present. Barkley scorned him for his behavior but little did the former bad boy Barkley or anyone know that, yes, this is the way Iverson intended to be. Due to his defiance, he was labeled as having no respect for the game.

It turned out that the player affectionately nicknamed The Answer hadn't even unpacked his bags yet. On the list of his table of contents, it appeared he was somewhere between the Introduction and Chapter One. Unlike most rookies that enter into the league looking to earn the respect of his peers, he hardly looked to gain their respect. Parallel to the brazen attitude of his generation, Iverson boldly concurred that it was his respect that needed to be earned. He wasn't going to change his strong-minded character because of something as superficial as money. To change due to financial gain would be considered as selling out. And there's no abandoning of one's principles for reasons of expedience in the young man affectionately nicknamed "Iso," as in isolation -- a play designed to give a basketball player the oppurtunity to "take his man off the dribble." He was perfectly comfortable with his ability and who he was. Sell out for whom? What? Money comes and goes, but he is what lies inside of his heart, forever. In that aspect, Iverson became somewhat of an martyr for his generation -- extremely talented, yet unwilling to adhere to the standard mold.

With the help of being awarded the Most Valuable Player at the 2001 NBA All-Star Game and an outstanding performance during the NBA Finals in the same year, the league was put on notice that Iverson had arrived and wasn't going anywhere. Not only that, but even the negative publicity he would garner would add to his legend -- the bold attempt at a gangsta rap CD which drew criticism from Stern and several activist groups due to made derogatory remarks, and the well-documented love-hate relationship with former Sixers coach Larry Brown.

What was not understood by the powers that be was that when one is perceived as a martyr, or a person who is made to suffer greatly for their beliefs, such negative publicity is often seen as being heroic in the eyes of his admirers, as was the case with the troubled late rap artist Tupac Shakur. The late, great writer and ESPN columnist Ralph Wiley once described Iverson as being the "Tupac of this generation of NBA players." As a member of this emotional and under-developed era, I can note striking similarities between the two. Both are disturbing yet fascinating, extremely talented, naive, and in their own eccentric way, remarkably sophisticated. Both offered a sea of confusion that each man always had to try and swim through. The only difference being that Stern wants Iverson dead, and Shakur is dead. Apparently murdered by the very image he glorified in his music.

According to Stern and his newly-implemented rules and imposed policies, a professional basketball player should adhere to a certain professionalism. And rightfully so. No matter how many oohs and ahhs are drawn when Iverson splits four defenders and finishes under the basket with an off-the-side-of-the-backboard left-handed shot, the NBA is a commerical organization. Nowadays, with so many young fans collectively establishing their sports heroes as role models and thus emulating their manner, perhaps even following in their footsteps, it's essential that the league puts forth a better image. Isn't it quite ironic how it was the same once-troubled star Barkley who once boldly stood up in front of a TV camera and adamantly stated, "I am not a role model"?

Stern doesn't want there to be any confusion or doubt concerning his stance. Contrary to what anyone may believe, he has made it clear that the NBA no longer condones the portrayed image that is synonomous with the Hip Hop Generation. No sir! Get rid of the jerseys, the durag's, the baseball caps, the Cartier shades and the eye-popping jewelry. And tuck your shirt in while you're at it. In other words, you are professional basketball players, not rappers. No longer does he want to project anything other than a professional and efficient atmosphere. Never mind the fact that the long, baggy uniformed shorts worn by NBA players speaks of trend. That is besides the point. What is important is that when Stern attends games, he is no longer bombarded with a number of notable players who looked as if they just stepped out gangsta rapper 50 Cent's video for "In The Club."

To the younger generation, this attitude and fashion can be thoroughly appealing, but to the older generation, the nature itself can become completely frightenening. While public schools and workplaces have installed their own policies towards such style of dress amongst their students and employees, the NBA has now followed suit. If there was some way that Stern could implement a policy that required all tattoos to be removed without sparking cries of racism from great civil rights leaders such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (sic), I'm sure he would. Although I am certain each man would "have the big one" if their young children were to suddenly arrive home one day with their bodies completely covered in tattoos. Not saying that Stern is racist or that Jackson and Sharpton are hypocrites, but there is a smidget of salt even in Kool-Aid. Above all, I believe Stern is merely making an effort to clean up the product's image and make it more appealing to ticket buyers, worldwide viewers, sponsors and investors -- money still talks. And with his ideals of expanding the NBA overseas in the future and decreasing ticket sales, it's fair to say he acknowledged that the league's image should be more business-like and less "culture-oriented." Yes, the almighty dollar has spoken.

As for the decline in quality of the NBA, it's impossible to truly say what played the most significant role. It could be other factors such as but not limited to:
  • The retirement of Michael Jordan
  • The word "potential"
  • Abnormous contracts
  • Free agency
  • Expansion
Nevertheless, the representative of supreme authority in the NBA, Commissioner David Stern, now wants the image that Allen Iverson once glorified, dead.

The image once represented commercial appeal, but now it has become bad for business.
 
A lot of the dudes in this thread hatin on AI would hv probably blown all their money too..no one knows his situation..if its true..i wish him the best..hes a legend where im from..we love a.i
 
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 Only a matter of time before dude is signing autographs for free at sports stores in shopping malls across America
 
Originally Posted by SN Souljah

A lot of the dudes in this thread hatin on AI would hv probably blown all their money too..no one knows his situation..if its true..i wish him the best..hes a legend where im from..we love a.i
Why you ridin his jock?
 
Originally Posted by SN Souljah

A lot of the dudes in this thread hatin on AI would hv probably blown all their money too..no one knows his situation..if its true..i wish him the best..hes a legend where im from..we love a.i

there is a difference between loving the player and not the person...AI is a HORRIBLE human being
 
Yeah, I would never knock Ai's game. Ever. He, in my opinion, is one of the best ever to play the game.

That doesn't mean I have to like the guy.

He's a piece of trash in my book.
 
I wouldn't say he was a horrible human being... He was just a young $&?!@ with money... And like others said , I highly doubt he is completely broke
 
Originally Posted by Cels The YoungGod

Originally Posted by ironman78

AI should have taken notes from Jamal Mashburn.. 


Explain please, Mash is broke too?

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[h2]Jamal Mashburn is a pizza-making, onion-frying entrepreneur[/h2]
By Trey Kerby

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Kenny Anderson and Nate Archibald are legitimate post-NBA success stories. Getting a degree — or several advanced degrees in Archibald's case — after years of professional basketball is very awesome, no doubt about that. But without disparaging those amazing accomplishments, let me offer forth Jamal Mashburn as the king of retired basketball triumphs.

Mashburn did have a successful stint in the NBA with averages of 19.1 points, 5.4 rebounds and 4.0 assists per game, and making the All-Star team in 2003. Not to mention, he did make a total of$75,623,634 during his 13 NBA seasons and hasn't blown it all like some of his former NBA pals

Chill bro Aron Phillips of Dime Magazine interviewed the former Maverick/Heat/Hornet and discovered just what Mashburn has been doing since his retirement in 2006.

[Related: NBA legend going for his Ph.D]
Dime: So what have you been up to since you retired?

Jamal Mashburn: Lot of things. I started with ESPN four years ago. Lots of people don't know but I was a communications major in college. I didn't anticipate doing what I studied in college, but when I finished my basketball career it made sense. I've always been in business and own franchises of Papa John's, Dunkin' Donuts and Outback Steakhouse, as well as car dealerships. I own over 34 Outbacks, 37 Papa John's and dealerships in Kentucky. I've always wanted to carry a briefcase. It's just something you want to do growing up in NYC. When I was younger, I always wondered what was in them.


Yeah, yeah — Michael Jordan owns a basketball team. Well, Jamal Mashburn owns 71 restaurants. That's just an incredible amount of Papa John's Pizzas and Outback Steakhouses, you guys. Noted Outback fans Steve Carell and LeBron James will be thrilled to hear this news, as I have been assured that they are both regular Ball Don't Lie readers.

All joking aside, it's really great that Jamal Mashburn is a successful business owner alongside being a decent NBA commentator. Not a bad lot in life after a good NBA career, especially when you realize that he gets all the free pizza and Bloomin' Onions he can handle. It might not be good for business, but here's hoping Mashburn takes advantage of those extraordinary perks.


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Here's another article about getting black balled in the NBA... 
Don't cross David Stern 

This story appears in the March 8 issue of ESPN The Magazine. 

Since the trade deadline just passed, some of you are probably wondering why your team shipped a guy out of town. Money is one reason guys get traded. So is talent. But there's a quicker way to be kicked to the curb in the NBA: getting blackballed. 

I see it a lot. Take T.J. Ford, for example. He might be on his way, through no fault of his own. The guy had a career year last year, yet he was on the bench for a month -- and he wasn't injured. Players have been buzzing about him lately, wondering why one of the best guys on the Pacers isn't playing much. It could be anything. I know of a situation in which a starter got benched because the owner's son is friends with the guy who replaced him.  

Stuff like that happens all the time, and it's not always the coaches making the decision. Sometimes it comes from above. I'm pretty sure, for example, that Javaris Crittenton will be blackballed after his gun incident with Gilbert Arenas. Gilbert is a former All-Star with a big contract. He'll play again. But most players think Javaris is done, that GMs won't touch him. That's just wrong. 

On the plane just the other day we were talking about how guys disappear: How Antoine Walker, Stephon Marbury, Bonzi Wells and Steve Francis were franchise players one day, out of the league the next. You never know where it comes from. It could be owners getting together to decide no one is going to offer a guy a contract (yes, it happens). Or it could come down from the commissioner. David Stern is not a man you want to cross.  

Stern is not a man you want to cross.  

The main thing that gets you blackballed in the NBA is being a bad influence on young players -- bad-mouthing the coach or refusing to listen to him, living the high life. If you're a veteran pulling young guys into that world, your days are numbered. GMs are wary of guys like that. They do all kinds of research before signing you, like talking to your high school coach and grade school teachers. The model organization is San Antonio. They hardly ever sign a guy who gets in trouble. And if they do, the guy shapes right up. If a GM thinks you're taking young guys out, getting them drunk and hooking them up with women, he'll drop you. And he'll tell other league GMs why.  

Some guys who've been run out of the NBA, like Bonzi, are doing whatever they can for another shot. Bonzi is better than a lot of guys in the league but won't get a second chance because of his rep as a bad locker room guy. The NBA doesn't have a team like the Bengals that gives bad-rep guys another chance.  

Sad thing is, you see some of these guys who are out of the league -- like Francis, Antoine or Steph -- and they still act as if they're stars. They're still like, "I'm the man. It's never gonna go away." They dress the same and spend money like they're still making it. I hear a lot of guys are working out in Chicago, waiting for the phone to ring. But the NBA doesn't really give you a second shot once you've been blackballed. Stern has the power to say a guy is not welcome anymore. You also have GMs with jobs on the line who don't want to take a risk. Look at what happened when Isiah Thomas signed bad locker room guys like Zach Randolph. The Knicks imploded, and Thomas got fired.  

I think this Arenas incident scared a lot of players. But I'm not sure if it will change much. The phone number the NBA gives us to call if we're struggling with alcohol and other things isn't going to start ringing off the hook. Thing is, this wasn't the first time Gilbert messed up. The NBA told him to chill a couple years ago, but I don't think he took it seriously. Word around the league is that he's at home freaking out, calling the NBA every five minutes to fix things, afraid it all might disappear.  

Funny enough, I haven't heard much about guys acting up this season. The Hawks used to be notorious for partying before they got Joe Johnson and got good. They had guys like Antoine, who would go out to clubs and go wild. It wasn't until they got rid of the bad influences that they started playing well. And you can usually tell who the bad influences are just by looking at how often a guy gets traded. If he's been moved five times, it probably doesn't have anything to do with creating cap room or getting good value. He's got an attitude problem, and his bosses sent him packin'.  

Player X is an NBA star. This is his second column in a series of unfiltered looks into the lives of professional athletes. 


 
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