BARACK OBAMA FTL

this new bill is making the dem's look bad for now, but if it works...obama is looking at a 2nd term.

It's cyclical.

The next repub president will cut obama's social programs, and the middle class will shrink again.

People don't realize that pelosi had a much larger role in this bill than obama. It's sad really. I'm not even an obama supporteror a dem.
 
It is sad to see the total absence of Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, and the like in today's political arena. If George Washington were alive today, he would be appalled at Barack Obama's policies.
My favorite part.
America has lost its way.
Too many people know little about what this country is truly about.
Too many people know little about what has REALLY made this country so great.

We need someone like our founding fathers here today.
Especially Thomas Jefferson (okay I'm biased.... I can't help it.... I got his blood in me
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Unfortunately.... this economic crisis is not going to end well
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Hopefully the Republicans OWN the Democrats in 2010 for the senate/house.
Then maybe we can get back on the right track.....
(see Clinton's 1st mid-term election in 1994 2 years after he was in office when Republicans won a TON of seats..... Democrats lost 54 seats in the house& 8 seats in the senate
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Then Republicans helped put in place policies that helped the economy get back on track..... do some research if you don't know what I'm talking about
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Honestly guys. With everything going on and after reading that and seeing some of the responses in this thread. I really do not know what to think, say orbelieve anymore. Just gotta ride it out and hope for the best.
 
republican party has been hijacked by the neoconservative christian right. republicans are supposed to be more classical liberalists than democrats. bush wasthe most oversized government in history, aside from lincoln and maybe fdr.
 
You cannot call a president a failure in his first month in office. You need to get real and wake up. Almost all other 1st world countries in the world havehad to move towards a more socialistic form of government. Some may ask why, because it's a government's job to take care of its people. TakeCalifornia for example. Its state economy is operating with a deficit of over $ 15 billion dollars. How is a state government supposed to get that far out ofthe red? There only hope is to become more fiscally conservative and the stimulus package funds that will help put some of its 10% of the population that arecurrently out of jobs back to work. You most remember that this economic crisis was not just caused by a downward shift in the business cycle. Most of thecurrent problems were man made and steam from so much deregulation that the Bush administration allowed. Give Barack a break. We can only truly make a judgmentabout the way he has run the country in about a year or so.
 
Originally Posted by JaiJai84

You cannot call a president a failure in his first month in office. You need to get real and wake up. Almost all other 1st world countries in the world have had to move towards a more socialistic form of government. Some may ask why, because it's a government's job to take care of its people. Take California for example. Its state economy is operating with a deficit of over $ 15 billion dollars. How is a state government supposed to get that far out of the red? There only hope is to become more fiscally conservative and the stimulus package funds that will help put some of its 10% of the population that are currently out of jobs back to work. You most remember that this economic crisis was not just caused by a downward shift in the business cycle. Most of the current problems were man made and steam from so much deregulation that the Bush administration allowed. Give Barack a break. We can only truly make a judgment about the way he has run the country in about a year or so.
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What a bunch of jargain, the whole paragraph
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literally, every comment in there is wrong
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On a side note, why don't you fix up the title a bit and submit it in the WSJ or Financial Times Naufal? I want to show some people this, but not from NThaha
 
son, you act like ANYONE WHO WAS RUNNING AGAINST OBAMA COULDA SAVED THE USA RIGHT NOW, I'M TALKING ANYONE FROM HILLARY TO MCCAIN TO RON PAUL ETC. THEYWOULDA FAILED PERIOD.
nothing is going to change immediately.

you have lived enough life to predict or preech zilch. I got $5 bills and tshirts older than you bro.
I don't care about taxes bro. everyone cheats on them anyways. homey cash is king to me.
the economy has not affected my lifestyle at all and if it gets 10x worse and goes on til 2018, then in 2019 i'll be worried, but I'm okay until then.selfish? kinda, but I am concerned, not scared or worried.


its not nothing new, my life is a write off, I was paying 50% taxes 14 years ago. I adjust to it. this was the first time I ever voted in my life and I standby Obama. as for gold, bro, please tell me, PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE A MULTI MILLIONAIRE LIQUID 8X OVER. you are right? cmon. you talk guarantees like an extenzinformercial. you're a weird dude slumdog. chill out a little. what you need to do is go cop some good kush instead of some gold and smoke some of thatworry away.
 
Originally Posted by Agthekid

Obama is really $#%+%$! up, but McCain wouldn't have been worst.
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I swear people on the internet are ******ed and have never heard of WORSE.
 
Originally Posted by JTPlatnum

i think ya'll are over reacting a lil too early. threw away the presidency in 4 weeks? are you for real?

seriously, can you imagine being hired for a job...any job...and being judged as critically in the first month as the president of the United States?

ridiculous. ya'll actin like you know what's gonna happen in the future...seriously, so many people think they know somethin that everyone else doesn't. we got a bunch of nostradamus' at NT.

i got a suggestion...why don't we wait a couple of months of watching it play out before judging how 'stupid' it was?
how about we read a book instead of judging it by it's cover?
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seriously, these are probably all the same people who probably saw this economic mess coming 5 years ago and made sure to warn us
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What are the differences between "Obama's" stimulus plan, and the one Bush created.

I ask cause what makes Obama's dumb, and Bush's...whatever they decided it was?
 
Originally Posted by BENBALLER

son, you act like ANYONE WHO WAS RUNNING AGAINST OBAMA COULDA SAVED THE USA RIGHT NOW, I'M TALKING ANYONE FROM HILLARY TO MCCAIN TO RON PAUL ETC. THEY WOULDA FAILED PERIOD.
nothing is going to change immediately.

you have lived enough life to predict or preech zilch. I got $5 bills and tshirts older than you bro.
I don't care about taxes bro. everyone cheats on them anyways. homey cash is king to me.
the economy has not affected my lifestyle at all and if it gets 10x worse and goes on til 2018, then in 2019 i'll be worried, but I'm okay until then. selfish? kinda, but I am concerned, not scared or worried.


its not nothing new, my life is a write off, I was paying 50% taxes 14 years ago. I adjust to it. this was the first time I ever voted in my life and I stand by Obama. as for gold, bro, please tell me, PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE A MULTI MILLIONAIRE LIQUID 8X OVER. you are right? cmon. you talk guarantees like an extenz informercial. you're a weird dude slumdog. chill out a little. what you need to do is go cop some good kush instead of some gold and smoke some of that worry away.
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Nobody really cares about material possessions. It's about the system. It was doomed from the beginning. The banks fractional reserve practicehas almost reached it's limits. There is no one who wants to take out any debt because they are losing their jobs and incomes. Banks are printing money forbusinesses at an alarming rate, but nobody wants the products they are selling. So the companies produce these goods and they aren't able to push them.

If the monetary system fails, gold will only be valuable to those who want gold. Because value is created because of scarcity. Fractional reserve bank and theFed create an artificial scarcity of money. The reason money is "valuable" is that it is presented as legal tender. The government forces it to be anacceptable form of exchange. !+#@ is going down.
 
Originally Posted by thagreatj

What are the differences between "Obama's" stimulus plan, and the one Bush created.

I ask cause what makes Obama's dumb, and Bush's...whatever they decided it was?
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Bush's was a failure because after the stimulus checks were sent, they were all used to pay off existing debts, so very little stimulus.

Obama's, while it will be a short term fix, there's no long term sustained growth in there, and it's burdening the next generation with an evengreater national debt; higher taxes.
 
who said anything about material possessions?
less is more in my book this past year.... very little of my money is in banks, at least in america and my cars that I owned are now liquidated into diamondsand gold which I can always dump if I needed to. as for how I live now.... my 2 mortgages and I lease my cars. I'm downsizing even more and loving it.
 
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