Honestly I Can't Believe I Acutally Thought It Was Okay To Think Pau > Dwight

There is no doubt he is soft but he works well around his pudding like pride and low man power.
 
didn't pau outplay dwight in the finals? pau is soft but dwight isn't shaq or anything, the guy has no skill whatsoever. not sure who i'd take to start a team.

as a laker fan i don't like the media hailing pau as the best big man in the game, it's not warranted. pau is a great player at home, but awful at times on the road. he's not the best big man in the game until he starts showing up on the road. and we'll see what he does in game 7
 
Originally Posted by u ttocs

didn't pau outplay dwight in the finals? pau is soft but dwight isn't shaq or anything, the guy has no skill whatsoever. not sure who i'd take to start a team.
*sigh*

Originally Posted by Al3xis


People just overreact on EVERYTHING.


I'm beginning to think followers of the NBA are the most fickle sports fans there are.
 
Originally Posted by u ttocs

didn't pau outplay dwight in the finals? pau is soft but dwight isn't shaq or anything, the guy has no skill whatsoever. not sure who i'd take to start a team.

as a laker fan
Interesting. Some one should bump the Yao vs Dwight threads last year. Yao dominates Dwight every time, but everyone would take Dwight to start a team. Pau is great himself, but you must have missed the Grizz a couple years back. He couldn't get out of the first round or get a win at that. But you a Lakers fan so I'm not surprised that you are not sure who'd to take to start a team.   
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

Yeah, because Rashard scoring 5 points a game, or the bench disappearing, or VC not stepping up, none of that played a factor, right? Certainly if Dwight had to be double teamed, then it would have affected the series, but everyone else still went ice cold. Dwight didn't "break" the Magic offense, the offense ran exactly like it was supposed to for the most part, they just couldn't score.

The problem with the Magic's offense is a combination of Dwight's limited capabilities and their shooters aren't that effective unless they're on fire because they don't drive enough. Plus they need a traditional PF who can score for them. When they're on fire the offense is unstoppable, but the basic scheme clearly doesn't work, they need a 4 who can score in the post.

People just overreact on EVERYTHING. No one says Dwight is Hakeem or Shaq, but he's also not Kwame Brown out there, it seems like everyone on here only operates on extreme opinions. 22 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, a steal, on 53% shooting in the Celtics series... and that's with the absolute stinker he and everyone for Orlando put up in game 3.
yes, and WHY did rashard and the rest of the bench shooters go ice cold? MAYBE because they were covered because the celtics were able to cover dwight one on one. the magic were shut down and went down 0-3, that is flat out being broken.
 
Originally Posted by purpleRElGN

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Yeah, because Rashard scoring 5 points a game, or the bench disappearing, or VC not stepping up, none of that played a factor, right? Certainly if Dwight had to be double teamed, then it would have affected the series, but everyone else still went ice cold. Dwight didn't "break" the Magic offense, the offense ran exactly like it was supposed to for the most part, they just couldn't score.

The problem with the Magic's offense is a combination of Dwight's limited capabilities and their shooters aren't that effective unless they're on fire because they don't drive enough. Plus they need a traditional PF who can score for them. When they're on fire the offense is unstoppable, but the basic scheme clearly doesn't work, they need a 4 who can score in the post.

People just overreact on EVERYTHING. No one says Dwight is Hakeem or Shaq, but he's also not Kwame Brown out there, it seems like everyone on here only operates on extreme opinions. 22 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, a steal, on 53% shooting in the Celtics series... and that's with the absolute stinker he and everyone for Orlando put up in game 3.
yes, and WHY did rashard and the rest of the bench shooters go ice cold? MAYBE because they were covered because the celtics were able to cover dwight one on one. the magic were shut down and went down 0-3, that is flat out being broken.
Selective reading it seems.  The team was missing open shots as well, in addition to playing poor defense.  Even with the Celtics defense Vince and Jameer did not attack enough and that's why they lost. 

You're missing the point with Dwight "breaking the offense".  Dwight did exactly what he was supposed to do in their gameplan.  The Magic's offense does not depend on Dwight getting doubled teamed every game, it also doesn't rest 100% on Dwight putting up 25 shots/game... it depends on good ball movement, pick and rolls, driving and passing out to open shooters, the shooters hitting their shots AND Dwight bringing attention in the post.  I'm not arguing the Celtics defense didn't attack the flaw in Orlando perfectly, because they did, but I'm arguing that the whole offense was not broken because Dwight didn't command a double team, there were far more factors than that, which you seem to ignore.
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by purpleRElGN

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Yeah, because Rashard scoring 5 points a game, or the bench disappearing, or VC not stepping up, none of that played a factor, right? Certainly if Dwight had to be double teamed, then it would have affected the series, but everyone else still went ice cold. Dwight didn't "break" the Magic offense, the offense ran exactly like it was supposed to for the most part, they just couldn't score.

The problem with the Magic's offense is a combination of Dwight's limited capabilities and their shooters aren't that effective unless they're on fire because they don't drive enough. Plus they need a traditional PF who can score for them. When they're on fire the offense is unstoppable, but the basic scheme clearly doesn't work, they need a 4 who can score in the post.

People just overreact on EVERYTHING. No one says Dwight is Hakeem or Shaq, but he's also not Kwame Brown out there, it seems like everyone on here only operates on extreme opinions. 22 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, a steal, on 53% shooting in the Celtics series... and that's with the absolute stinker he and everyone for Orlando put up in game 3.
yes, and WHY did rashard and the rest of the bench shooters go ice cold? MAYBE because they were covered because the celtics were able to cover dwight one on one. the magic were shut down and went down 0-3, that is flat out being broken.
Selective reading it seems.  The team was missing open shots as well, in addition to playing poor defense.  Even with the Celtics defense Vince and Jameer did not attack enough and that's why they lost. 

You're missing the point with Dwight "breaking the offense".  Dwight did exactly what he was supposed to do in their gameplan.  The Magic's offense does not depend on Dwight getting doubled teamed every game, it also doesn't rest 100% on Dwight putting up 25 shots/game... it depends on good ball movement, pick and rolls, driving and passing out to open shooters, the shooters hitting their shots AND Dwight bringing attention in the post.  I'm not arguing the Celtics defense didn't attack the flaw in Orlando perfectly, because they did, but I'm arguing that the whole offense was not broken because Dwight didn't command a double team, there were far more factors than that, which you seem to ignore.
uh yeah the team was missing open shots..because they had been missing most of the game/had no rhythm, and often rushed to get their shot off because they knew they would soon get a hand in their face? stop playing dumb. of course there were other factors, but the foundation of the celtics entire game plan hinged on being able to play dwight man to man. dwight not having a post/offensive game was LARGELY the reason the magic broke down the way they did.

and anyway the point was there is no way in hell you take dwight for pau if youre the lakers, esp in this series. that is the most ridiculous thing ive heard in a long while.
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Originally Posted by purpleRElGN

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by purpleRElGN

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Yeah, because Rashard scoring 5 points a game, or the bench disappearing, or VC not stepping up, none of that played a factor, right? Certainly if Dwight had to be double teamed, then it would have affected the series, but everyone else still went ice cold. Dwight didn't "break" the Magic offense, the offense ran exactly like it was supposed to for the most part, they just couldn't score.

The problem with the Magic's offense is a combination of Dwight's limited capabilities and their shooters aren't that effective unless they're on fire because they don't drive enough. Plus they need a traditional PF who can score for them. When they're on fire the offense is unstoppable, but the basic scheme clearly doesn't work, they need a 4 who can score in the post.

People just overreact on EVERYTHING. No one says Dwight is Hakeem or Shaq, but he's also not Kwame Brown out there, it seems like everyone on here only operates on extreme opinions. 22 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, a steal, on 53% shooting in the Celtics series... and that's with the absolute stinker he and everyone for Orlando put up in game 3.
yes, and WHY did rashard and the rest of the bench shooters go ice cold? MAYBE because they were covered because the celtics were able to cover dwight one on one. the magic were shut down and went down 0-3, that is flat out being broken.
Selective reading it seems.  The team was missing open shots as well, in addition to playing poor defense.  Even with the Celtics defense Vince and Jameer did not attack enough and that's why they lost. 

You're missing the point with Dwight "breaking the offense".  Dwight did exactly what he was supposed to do in their gameplan.  The Magic's offense does not depend on Dwight getting doubled teamed every game, it also doesn't rest 100% on Dwight putting up 25 shots/game... it depends on good ball movement, pick and rolls, driving and passing out to open shooters, the shooters hitting their shots AND Dwight bringing attention in the post.  I'm not arguing the Celtics defense didn't attack the flaw in Orlando perfectly, because they did, but I'm arguing that the whole offense was not broken because Dwight didn't command a double team, there were far more factors than that, which you seem to ignore.
uh yeah the team was missing open shots..because they had been missing most of the game/had no rhythm, and often rushed to get their shot off because they knew they would soon get a hand in their face? stop playing dumb. of course there were other factors, but the foundation of the celtics entire game plan hinged on being able to play dwight man to man. dwight not having a post/offensive game was LARGELY the reason the magic broke down the way they did.

and anyway the point was there is no way in hell you take dwight for pau if youre the lakers, esp in this series. that is the most ridiculous thing ive heard in a long while.
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another Laker fan that doesnt know what he's talking about. The Celtics rarely double team. Dwight had 22 pts 11 rebs a game in that series, which are bad by his standards (and good for Gasol's standards). Actually........did you even watch that series? Rushing your shot because they knew they would soon get a hand in their face?? (what is that nonsense?????).

A open shot is an open shot. Vince and Rashard are paid to make shots. If Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis avg 10 pts a game, along with Jameer's limited passing skills.........how in the world did Magic send that series to 6 games???

The point is Dwight makes a bigger impact on any NBA team than Gasol does.......the ONLY way a team takes Gasol instead is if they had a good center like Yao or Bynum
 
Originally Posted by Jonnny25

Originally Posted by purpleRElGN

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by purpleRElGN

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Yeah, because Rashard scoring 5 points a game, or the bench disappearing, or VC not stepping up, none of that played a factor, right? Certainly if Dwight had to be double teamed, then it would have affected the series, but everyone else still went ice cold. Dwight didn't "break" the Magic offense, the offense ran exactly like it was supposed to for the most part, they just couldn't score.

The problem with the Magic's offense is a combination of Dwight's limited capabilities and their shooters aren't that effective unless they're on fire because they don't drive enough. Plus they need a traditional PF who can score for them. When they're on fire the offense is unstoppable, but the basic scheme clearly doesn't work, they need a 4 who can score in the post.

People just overreact on EVERYTHING. No one says Dwight is Hakeem or Shaq, but he's also not Kwame Brown out there, it seems like everyone on here only operates on extreme opinions. 22 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, a steal, on 53% shooting in the Celtics series... and that's with the absolute stinker he and everyone for Orlando put up in game 3.
yes, and WHY did rashard and the rest of the bench shooters go ice cold? MAYBE because they were covered because the celtics were able to cover dwight one on one. the magic were shut down and went down 0-3, that is flat out being broken.
Selective reading it seems.  The team was missing open shots as well, in addition to playing poor defense.  Even with the Celtics defense Vince and Jameer did not attack enough and that's why they lost. 

You're missing the point with Dwight "breaking the offense".  Dwight did exactly what he was supposed to do in their gameplan.  The Magic's offense does not depend on Dwight getting doubled teamed every game, it also doesn't rest 100% on Dwight putting up 25 shots/game... it depends on good ball movement, pick and rolls, driving and passing out to open shooters, the shooters hitting their shots AND Dwight bringing attention in the post.  I'm not arguing the Celtics defense didn't attack the flaw in Orlando perfectly, because they did, but I'm arguing that the whole offense was not broken because Dwight didn't command a double team, there were far more factors than that, which you seem to ignore.
uh yeah the team was missing open shots..because they had been missing most of the game/had no rhythm, and often rushed to get their shot off because they knew they would soon get a hand in their face? stop playing dumb. of course there were other factors, but the foundation of the celtics entire game plan hinged on being able to play dwight man to man. dwight not having a post/offensive game was LARGELY the reason the magic broke down the way they did.

and anyway the point was there is no way in hell you take dwight for pau if youre the lakers, esp in this series. that is the most ridiculous thing ive heard in a long while.
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another Laker fan that doesnt know what he's talking about. The Celtics rarely double team. Dwight had 22 pts 11 rebs a game in that series, which are bad by his standards (and good for Gasol's standards). Actually........did you even watch that series? Rushing your shot because they knew they would soon get a hand in their face?? (what is that nonsense?????).

A open shot is an open shot. Vince and Rashard are paid to make shots. If Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis avg 10 pts a game, along with Jameer's limited passing skills.........how in the world did Magic send that series to 6 games???

The point is Dwight makes a bigger impact on any NBA team than Gasol does.......the ONLY way a team takes Gasol instead is if they had a good center like Yao or Bynum
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people cant sleep on pau.... he gots that baby hook.... but he does play kinda soft....
GO LA!
 
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