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Come on now everyone knows ED docs dont do physicals exams lol.
How being a Doctor Became the Most Miserable Profession
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Rph here, a lot of stress but i can't imagine being a doctor.
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What is your profession?
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that will never happen. is medicine changing? absolutely. ultimately the role of physicians will change from therapeutic to preventative. that emphasis is already being seen with changes in how we are reimbursed. but to think that doctors will be replaced is science fiction.
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Lol its funny how many people don't know that @SlimK4 is a dr. Still dont know how he does both but i appreciate it
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so who wants to invest in this NT surgicenter??
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i knew someone would call me out on thatgotta find my side hustle eventually... got a couple ideas but nothing solid yet.
im not trying to be that 60 yr old ER doc... hell i dont want to be doing any more shifts past 45 if possible.
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i plan on doing anesthesia in a GI center after 50.
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idk
it may sound corny but the human connection is very important in medicine. You can't have the same relationship with a machine/computer that you could with your doctor.
patients want to have that with the person healing them, it's not the same as trading some stocks.
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The exact same thing was said about brokers ( or any other number of professions which got hit hard by automation). "Who would trust computers with trillions of dollars in transactions?" "It's the personal connections that will keep the stock brokers in business."
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I just don't see the equivalence because health is so far removed from trading.
There are SO many variables with people, what machine is going to replace the clinical judgement of a physician? People are insanely complex, some things you can't codify.
It will help though, it'll make doctors better.
There are SO many variables with people, what machine is going to replace the clinical judgement of a physician? People are insanely complex, some things you can't codify.
It will help though, it'll make doctors better.
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At the end of the day, trading stocks, finances, etc, can be broken down into equations, algorithms, numbers.
Medicine? Not so much.
Medicine? Not so much.
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How do you doctors feel about overseas MD's - specifically those who went to the Carrib or Philippines for med school because they couldn't get in to US? Are they looked down upon in the community?
Also, have you encountered such MD's during your residency? Did they or do you advise against overseas schooling in terms of the journey back into the US.
Also, have you encountered such MD's during your residency? Did they or do you advise against overseas schooling in terms of the journey back into the US.
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Any docs here doing research?
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just looked up the numbers for last year's match...american graduates of foreign medical schools had a 53% match rate
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Same arguments were made about other field that succumbed to a high degree of automation.
" You can't trust robots to build cars, humans lives are at stake. What of the robot misses a weld...."
" You can't trust networks of computers with people's pension funds. Trading is all about trust! How can you trust a computer?"
The ONLY reason that we haven't seen technology steamroll medicine like it has other sectors is because the medical lobby is one of the most powerful in the US ( medicine in the US operates as a closed economy). You don't see it on the front pages but the medical lobby has been fighting tooth and nail to keep automation out of medicine as much as possible. It's also a major reason why some foreign nations seem to be ahead of us when it comes to the implementation of medical tech.
The vast majority of work that physicians do is ROUTINE and anything that is routine can be automated ( see driving, flying, assembling, etc.) It's just a matter of time, cost differentials, and regulations.
I'm not saying that it will happen tomorrow or in 5 years but definitely in our lifetime.
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What kind of work do you think has the potential to be automated?
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Once you're in a residency, nobody would really know where you went to med school unless you told them.
But it's getting harder for foreign grads to get into residency now unless you do really well on your boards and have a great application. American schools are taking more students per year, new schools are opening up, so that leads to more american grads applying. Also now I think programs aren't allowed to "prematch" where many residencies would offer a spot before the match. A lot of foreign grads with great scores got in this way in the past.
Another thing, if you want to work in a competitive field, itll be very difficult to match regardless of how good your scores are. It can happen, but most foreign grads go the primary care route. a friend of mine went to a foreign school, got 99th percentiles for both usmle 1 and 2, and was only able to get 1 radiology interview and ended up matching in internal medicine.
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i have a friend that graduated from the top medical school in the philippines 2 years ago and still hasn't matched here in the US
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What routine work are you talking about wawwooo? You mean stuff like charting and billing docs would love to get rid of all the paperwork. What robot do you see coming down the line that will do a complete physical and neurologic exam. What about a robot to do simple surgeries or simple procedures but it assumes normal anatomy and hits an aberrant artery. What about doing a lung biopsyin someone with copd and they get a pneumothorax and they need an emergent chest tube or the will have cardiovascular collapse will the robot then be able to grab a chest tube and throw one in in minutes?
just curious of your background in the medical field. I would love to hear all this great automated products you know about.
just curious of your background in the medical field. I would love to hear all this great automated products you know about.
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Same here...
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again, you can't compare it to a factory producing vehicles.
every single car of that type is identical, absolutely not the case with human beings.
every single car of that type is identical, absolutely not the case with human beings.
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It seems like Wawawowewawawawowoaweawawa actually thinks you can just punch your symptoms into a smartphone app and have it properly diagnose you or refer you to the specialist that you need to see. What he fails to realize is how many variables you have to take into consideration with the human body. There's a reason that physicians (even primary care physicians) are in school for such a long time. Clincal judgment is absolutely necessary in healthcare. This isn't the stock market, this isn't manufacturing, and this isn't computer science/engineering. Anyone that's ever googled/WebMD'ed their symptoms during the course of an illness should know how true this is. UTVOL23 brought up some great points above, and that's without mentioning concepts like referred pain and psychosomatic illness. Empowering laymen with the tools to self-diagnose and come to their own conclusions about complex medical/biological issues is a recipe for disaster. Has the anti-vaccination movement taught us nothing?
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