In the spirit of Kobe videos..."I'd beat Lebron 1 on 1...IN MY SLEEP"

[kali4nikated]

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

lol

for the ppl saying he would beat kobe 1on1 because he would just power over him to the low block and score with ease: lebron has a size advantage over most of his defenders, why do we rarely see him doing this during an actual game?? to many times he's on the perimeter fading away like kobe. he is greatly talented but he is really holding his potential back with lack of certain skills. lebron's talents plus kobe's skill....one can't even imagine

who thinks lebron would beat mj?

 

[kali4nikated]

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

lol

for the ppl saying he would beat kobe 1on1 because he would just power over him to the low block and score with ease: lebron has a size advantage over most of his defenders, why do we rarely see him doing this during an actual game?? to many times he's on the perimeter fading away like kobe. he is greatly talented but he is really holding his potential back with lack of certain skills. lebron's talents plus kobe's skill....one can't even imagine

who thinks lebron would beat mj?

 

[fudgemoney24]

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

Since he weighs more and is more than likely stronger than me, probably not. 
But since he's not weaker smaller and shorter this situation is completely different isn't it.

Also if we're going by NBA.com stats Lebron is at least 45 lbs. heavier than Kobe. 

So then you're saying you could beat Earl Boykins one on one?

 

[fudgemoney24]

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

Since he weighs more and is more than likely stronger than me, probably not. 
But since he's not weaker smaller and shorter this situation is completely different isn't it.

Also if we're going by NBA.com stats Lebron is at least 45 lbs. heavier than Kobe. 

So then you're saying you could beat Earl Boykins one on one?

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by kali4nikated

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

lol

for the ppl saying he would beat kobe 1on1 because he would just power over him to the low block and score with ease: lebron has a size advantage over most of his defenders, why do we rarely see him doing this during an actual game?? to many times he's on the perimeter fading away like kobe. he is greatly talented but he is really holding his potential back with lack of certain skills. lebron's talents plus kobe's skill....one can't even imagine

who thinks lebron would beat mj?

umm, help defense? 
When's the last time you were double teamed in a 1 on 1?

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by kali4nikated

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

lol

for the ppl saying he would beat kobe 1on1 because he would just power over him to the low block and score with ease: lebron has a size advantage over most of his defenders, why do we rarely see him doing this during an actual game?? to many times he's on the perimeter fading away like kobe. he is greatly talented but he is really holding his potential back with lack of certain skills. lebron's talents plus kobe's skill....one can't even imagine

who thinks lebron would beat mj?

umm, help defense? 
When's the last time you were double teamed in a 1 on 1?

 

[kali4nikated]

you know i think your right bro...help-defense is the reason why he doesn't have a post game.

based on your reasoning, you have no problem saying lebron would beat mj 1on1?  im just curious..

 

[kali4nikated]

you know i think your right bro...help-defense is the reason why he doesn't have a post game.

based on your reasoning, you have no problem saying lebron would beat mj 1on1?  im just curious..

 

[wjun15]

Originally Posted by kali4nikated

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

lol

for the ppl saying he would beat kobe 1on1 because he would just power over him to the low block and score with ease: lebron has a size advantage over most of his defenders, why do we rarely see him doing this during an actual game?? to many times he's on the perimeter fading away like kobe. he is greatly talented but he is really holding his potential back with lack of certain skills. lebron's talents plus kobe's skill....one can't even imagine

who thinks lebron would beat mj?

5v5

 

[wjun15]

Originally Posted by kali4nikated

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

So you're telling me you'd beat Nate Robinson 1 on bum?

lol

for the ppl saying he would beat kobe 1on1 because he would just power over him to the low block and score with ease: lebron has a size advantage over most of his defenders, why do we rarely see him doing this during an actual game?? to many times he's on the perimeter fading away like kobe. he is greatly talented but he is really holding his potential back with lack of certain skills. lebron's talents plus kobe's skill....one can't even imagine

who thinks lebron would beat mj?

5v5

 

[rook]

Originally Posted by piggiesmalls

Originally Posted by RoOk

Kobe fanboy x10000

BUT


Lebron would beat him in a 1 on 1.

  

arent u 16?

Naa 12 (7th grade)

& Your point?

 

[rook]

Originally Posted by piggiesmalls

Originally Posted by RoOk

Kobe fanboy x10000

BUT


Lebron would beat him in a 1 on 1.

  

arent u 16?

Naa 12 (7th grade)

& Your point?

 

[lawdog1]

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

Sorry, but that's way too simplistic, especially when you're talking about two NBA players.  Its one thing to back down some scrub who is shorter than you and make a lay up, but it is quite another thing to do it to Kobe Bryant, even if you're LeBron James.  Kobe is a great defender with good hands.  I'm thinking maybe he could figure out a way to get a steal or slap the ball away, etc., as opposed to getting backed down with ease every time.  Plus, there's the matter of defense.  What's LeBron's size advantage going to do for him in terms of stopping Kobe from scoring?  Not much.  I'm not saying LeBron couldn't beat him.  And I certainly don't think Kobe would win "in his sleep."  But the argument that LeBron is bigger therefore LeBron wins just doesn't fly for me. 

And yes I have played plenty of one-on-one games in my life, including games where I beat guys that were 3-4 inches taller than me and significantly heavier.  

 

[lawdog1]

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

Sorry, but that's way too simplistic, especially when you're talking about two NBA players.  Its one thing to back down some scrub who is shorter than you and make a lay up, but it is quite another thing to do it to Kobe Bryant, even if you're LeBron James.  Kobe is a great defender with good hands.  I'm thinking maybe he could figure out a way to get a steal or slap the ball away, etc., as opposed to getting backed down with ease every time.  Plus, there's the matter of defense.  What's LeBron's size advantage going to do for him in terms of stopping Kobe from scoring?  Not much.  I'm not saying LeBron couldn't beat him.  And I certainly don't think Kobe would win "in his sleep."  But the argument that LeBron is bigger therefore LeBron wins just doesn't fly for me. 

And yes I have played plenty of one-on-one games in my life, including games where I beat guys that were 3-4 inches taller than me and significantly heavier.  

 

[AIR J XIII]

Originally Posted by kali4nikated

based on your reasoning, you have no problem saying lebron would beat mj 1on1? 

 

[AIR J XIII]

Originally Posted by kali4nikated

based on your reasoning, you have no problem saying lebron would beat mj 1on1? 

 

[wjun15]

Originally Posted by lawdog1

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

Sorry, but that's way too simplistic, especially when you're talking about two NBA players.  Its one thing to back down some scrub who is shorter than you and make a lay up, but it is quite another thing to do it to Kobe Bryant, even if you're LeBron James.  Kobe is a great defender with good hands.  I'm thinking maybe he could figure out a way to get a steal or slap the ball away, etc., as opposed to getting backed down with ease every time.  Plus, there's the matter of defense.  What's LeBron's size advantage going to do for him in terms of stopping Kobe from scoring?  Not much.  I'm not saying LeBron couldn't beat him.  And I certainly don't think Kobe would win "in his sleep."  But the argument that LeBron is bigger therefore LeBron wins just doesn't fly for me. 

And yes I have played plenty of one-on-one games in my life, including games where I beat guys that were 3-4 inches taller than me and significantly heavier.  

my point was that, theyre defense abilities are similar but kobe would have to take more tough shots since bron is bigger/stronger/equally as fast on D.
yeah it would probably be pretty even, (though I would probably take bron if i were to bet on it). im just responding to people that say kobe would win easily just because

1. kobe said so
2. hes the best player in the game

 

[wjun15]

Originally Posted by lawdog1

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

Sorry, but that's way too simplistic, especially when you're talking about two NBA players.  Its one thing to back down some scrub who is shorter than you and make a lay up, but it is quite another thing to do it to Kobe Bryant, even if you're LeBron James.  Kobe is a great defender with good hands.  I'm thinking maybe he could figure out a way to get a steal or slap the ball away, etc., as opposed to getting backed down with ease every time.  Plus, there's the matter of defense.  What's LeBron's size advantage going to do for him in terms of stopping Kobe from scoring?  Not much.  I'm not saying LeBron couldn't beat him.  And I certainly don't think Kobe would win "in his sleep."  But the argument that LeBron is bigger therefore LeBron wins just doesn't fly for me. 

And yes I have played plenty of one-on-one games in my life, including games where I beat guys that were 3-4 inches taller than me and significantly heavier.  

my point was that, theyre defense abilities are similar but kobe would have to take more tough shots since bron is bigger/stronger/equally as fast on D.
yeah it would probably be pretty even, (though I would probably take bron if i were to bet on it). im just responding to people that say kobe would win easily just because

1. kobe said so
2. hes the best player in the game

 

[kvsm23vs24]

Now that someone brought up Lebron could beat MJ, this thread shold explode.

And rook you 12?

 

[kvsm23vs24]

Now that someone brought up Lebron could beat MJ, this thread shold explode.

And rook you 12?

 

[rook]

^ Na man I'm 18 (College Student)

 

[rook]

^ Na man I'm 18 (College Student)

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by lawdog1

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

Sorry, but that's way too simplistic, especially when you're talking about two NBA players.  Its one thing to back down some scrub who is shorter than you and make a lay up, but it is quite another thing to do it to Kobe Bryant, even if you're LeBron James.  Kobe is a great defender with good hands.  I'm thinking maybe he could figure out a way to get a steal or slap the ball away, etc., as opposed to getting backed down with ease every time.  Plus, there's the matter of defense.  What's LeBron's size advantage going to do for him in terms of stopping Kobe from scoring?  Not much.  I'm not saying LeBron couldn't beat him.  And I certainly don't think Kobe would win "in his sleep."  But the argument that LeBron is bigger therefore LeBron wins just doesn't fly for me. 

And yes I have played plenty of one-on-one games in my life, including games where I beat guys that were 3-4 inches taller than me and significantly heavier.  

It doesn't for me either but if everyone's just gonna agree that Kobe would win because he has more skill then I'm gonna play that card.
I can beat a guy significantly heavier and taller than me. Add just as fast and just as strong/stronger and we have an issue.  

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by lawdog1

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

Sorry, but that's way too simplistic, especially when you're talking about two NBA players.  Its one thing to back down some scrub who is shorter than you and make a lay up, but it is quite another thing to do it to Kobe Bryant, even if you're LeBron James.  Kobe is a great defender with good hands.  I'm thinking maybe he could figure out a way to get a steal or slap the ball away, etc., as opposed to getting backed down with ease every time.  Plus, there's the matter of defense.  What's LeBron's size advantage going to do for him in terms of stopping Kobe from scoring?  Not much.  I'm not saying LeBron couldn't beat him.  And I certainly don't think Kobe would win "in his sleep."  But the argument that LeBron is bigger therefore LeBron wins just doesn't fly for me. 

And yes I have played plenty of one-on-one games in my life, including games where I beat guys that were 3-4 inches taller than me and significantly heavier.  

It doesn't for me either but if everyone's just gonna agree that Kobe would win because he has more skill then I'm gonna play that card.
I can beat a guy significantly heavier and taller than me. Add just as fast and just as strong/stronger and we have an issue.  

 

[8kbmj23]

Originally Posted by WJuN15

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

Either some of y'all are garbage 1 on 1 players or you've never actually tried to power yourselves to the hoop over a smaller defender.

I'm no where near the talent of those two but I know if I get a defender who's smaller, shorter and weaker than me I'll abuse him all day. His skill is not gonna stop me from getting to the basket since he'll never get close enough to the ball.

exactly

I understand the argument, but I think Kobe's strength and defense is being underestimated. Yeah, he should not be considered 1st team defense, but he plays great defense against superstars.