Is Camden, NJ really the worse city in America?

[jjs07]

Camden has a fantastic aquarium...that's about it.

Atlantic City is straight up depressing. 5-10 more years and that place will be a complete ghost town. It's already close to it now.

 

[jthagreat]

Whats really good with him? I know he moved on to the NJ Senate but I've hard people talk about him like a young prodigy en route to Washington.

I follow him on Twitter. He's going hard for Prisoner reentry programs & juvenile incarceration reform. Dude really is inspiring.

Corey Booker will be President by 2024.

Dude is a good dude.

His only knock is the Facebook donation to the schools, but trying to solve a clusterF!!! that the school system is unsolvable.


Detroit was mentioned, but in the 3 1/2 years I lived here (Sterling heights and warren) its on the up and up. You gotta stay in the 4-5 block radius of the real downtown to be 'safe' but they seem to be putting a lot of money into downtown.

Just gotta give it time. Stay strapped tho.

 

[youngthundercat]

Man I'm really a fan of Booker after watching that Newark series.

 

[-Red-]

San Bernardino is taking the worst city crown this year 

Nah, Flint got that.

It ain't really a matter of "this year." The desperate conditions in the worst cities in this country are the end results of 75 years worth of institutional racism (especially with regard to housing policy), deindustrialization and private disinvestment, and the retrenchment of the welfare state.

I've never been to San Bernardino, but I can guarantee you it's nothing like East St. Louis. Statistically, Flint is in the same category as Camden, Gary, and Detroit, I just forgot about it when I posted because I've never been there.

San Bernardino is taking the worst city crown this year 

No where in California compares to the cities being mentioned.

A few murder rates might crack the top 5 - 10 every year which is obviously a horrible thing, but as far as urban life goes (seasonal and migrant families in the central valley is a whole different thing) the people with the least in California don't know what real American poverty looks like.

Ding, ding, ding!

Although, at least from a statistical standpoint, Oakland, Compton, and Richmond aren't too far removed. I don't know about San Bernardino, though...

 

[-Red-]

Always hear this bit need to see for myself. I doubt it's as bad as people make it sound.

As far as St. Louis, I would have to say it's more depressing looking at how so many folks are ok with being marginal in life, smh.

Don't sleep on San Bernardino like fam said above.

It's a lot of hoods in la that are bad so I think it takes the cake. I mean how big is Camden, Atlantic city, etc? La is big as hell as spread out bad hoods.

As far as the water system in most of those southern towns, man that ain't nothing new. Spots in Mississippi been contaminated. That's why a lot of folks down there have those big gaps in their teeth due to the tore up water.

Fam, if you think the real issue in St. Louis is simply that "so many folks are ok with being marginal in life," I'm not sure what to tell you.

And I think you're inadvertently missing your own point about city size and deprivation. By most statistical measures, Los Angeles is one of the most wealthy, safest cities in the country. Sure, there are bad neighborhoods, but at least they benefit from the tax base of the rest of the city. Imagine if an entire city consisted of the three poorest, most segregated, most violent LA neighborhoods...

Also, there is no neighborhood in LA that compares to East St. Louis, Camden, Gary, or Detroit. There just isn't.

 

[sharpshooter718]

Im gonna say this NYC has over 500 murders a year...my wife works for 911 . She hears it everyday... they dont report most of the murders. People always floating in rivers, people decomposing in apartments, left in dumpsters.

Now when you hear about a murder on TV its more than likely in a highly visible area where the crime cannot be brushed under the rug...

 

[sreggie101]

man i couldn't believe they have LEAD water pipes in flint. Crazy..... 

Still cant believe it man. Bad enough the crime rate is terrible but then people cant even live their lives and now have to worry for something as simple as clean water.

I thought marshall law was bad..this beats it

Most of the cities in this country have lead pipes, they just make sure to keep them treated and using a better water supply, something Snyder tried to skimp on. Flint is just the first of many and as we keep ignoring our infrastructure and things like that, aint no tellin.

this country is bad news when it comes to infrastructure. its one of those issues that somehow gets turned into a political debate, at the local level (word to NY and NJ port authority) or the national level, and yet, **** never gets done. north east has some of the worst roads in the world and the best any city can do is have a 2 man crew with some shovels and some tar n asphalt and fill some some holes up. what part of the game is that?

steam pipes exploding, bridges falling apart, tunnels well past expiration date this isn't about right or left, now its getting to the life and death point.




europe and asia had bullet trains since the 80s and we still gotta pay airfare for regular speed amtrak

this country really is incapable of spending $$ for the good of the people. in all aspects of american society.

 

[sonoftony]

Newark is hood, most parts. Not worth the drive from Bergen Co. for yambs IMO.

I drove by Camden but never stopped there. I knew that it's been a **** hole for the longest.

whoever mention infrastructure is right. The Cross Bronx has been in repair since the early 2000s..sheeeet, even earlier maybe.

 

[T Lo Sweater]

Newark is hood, most parts. Not worth the drive from Bergen Co. for yambs IMO.

I drove by Camden but never stopped there. I knew that it's been a **** hole for the longest.

whoever mention infrastructure is right. The Cross Bronx has been in repair since the early 2000s..sheeeet, even earlier maybe.

Im in Bergen. That's a set up to get finessed imo

Esp in Newark

My moms friend worked for bmw. He drove a loaner car down there from Englewood. He gets to this woman's house so he can take her car and give her the loaner

As hes walking up the driveway someone jacks the whip. Smh dude ended up getting fired

 

[krazy88s]

Newark is actually seeing some investment dollars downtown & in the Ironbound. Its redevelopment is slower than Jersey City, but redevelopment nonetheless.

Yup. Much needed too. I don't know if gentrification is the right word, but its needed and finally happening. 

I'm from NJ. Been to all the places mentioned here, including Camden a few times. Never felt threatened or "clutch my purse" like some dude said here. 

I'm pretty comfortable no matter where I go. Never scared.

So to answer the question, I don't know. You'd have to visit each of the worst cites to find out.

 

[xxpizzo]

Camden has a fantastic aquarium...that's about it.

Atlantic City is straight up depressing. 5-10 more years and that place will be a complete ghost town. It's already close to it now.

true

and has a really good music theater which is called BB&T now formerly known as Susquehanna bank center

thats the only time i really go over to camden is for concerts lol 

 

[krazy88s]

76ers just built their practice facility in Camden. Plus the waterfront and aquarium is cool. So maybe it's that bad.

 

[sonoftony]

Newark is hood, most parts. Not worth the drive from Bergen Co. for yambs IMO.

I drove by Camden but never stopped there. I knew that it's been a **** hole for the longest.

whoever mention infrastructure is right. The Cross Bronx has been in repair since the early 2000s..sheeeet, even earlier maybe.

Im in Bergen. That's a set up to get finessed imo

Esp in Newark

My moms friend worked for bmw. He drove a loaner car down there from Englewood. He gets to this woman's house so he can take her car and give her the loaner

As hes walking up the driveway someone jacks the whip. Smh dude ended up getting fired

Newark's Car Jack city for a reason b.

I knew cats in Bloomfield who knew cats in Newark. So I was good money back then when I'd come down. Never got jacked

 

[seandon23]

this country is bad news when it comes to infrastructure. its one of those issues that somehow gets turned into a political debate, at the local level (word to NY and NJ port authority) or the national level, and yet, **** never gets done. north east has some of the worst roads in the world and the best any city can do is have a 2 man crew with some shovels and some tar n asphalt and fill some some holes up. what part of the game is that?

steam pipes exploding, bridges falling apart, tunnels well past expiration date

this isn't about right or left, now its getting to the life and death point.




europe and asia had bullet trains since the 80s and we still gotta pay airfare for regular speed amtrak

this country really is incapable of spending $$ for the good of the people. in all aspects of american society.

these politicians need to turn everything into a damn political debate nowadays which is why nothing gets done. some of the people in office truly are incapable from doing their job and its a shame to see

 

[jordman23]

What needs to happen is get Krispy Kreme Christie out of office, dude too busy running a failed presidency and being Trump's personal assistant.

 

[illscan]

Yall dudes are in here over doing it about Newark. There are not hoards of marauding armed men waiting at the city limits to pounce anyone they see. Is Newark dangerous? Yes. But the overwhelming majority of the violence that occurs is between those "in the game". If you don't want to get hurt in Newark, don't join a gang or sell drugs, mind your business & you should be good.
I've never had an issue in Newark that wasn't of my own making.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Most depressing cities I've been to are Fresno, CA and Mesa, AZ.

Fresno is bad? I wonder what Rafer was doing out there

 

[Master Zik]

 

man i couldn't believe they have LEAD water pipes in flint. Crazy..... 

Still cant believe it man. Bad enough the crime rate is terrible but then people cant even live their lives and now have to worry for something as simple as clean water.


I thought marshall law was bad..this beats it

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/...an-gov-rick-snyder-other-officials-1.11546972

All of them should get waterboarded with the Flint water.

 

[illscan]

Newark got "better", not saying much tho. I suspect with how close it is to NYC, it may someday be the next Jersey City......100 years from now.

LOL. I was just in Newark last week learning screenprinting with shortie from some nice hipster type white people.
Not saying that is definitive proof that Newark isn't hood, but you see where I'm going.

 

[alp]

The two worst cities I've been in have both been in Jersey, Newark and Atlantic City. 

ac is lit man, casinos are fun. Don't ever remember going to Camden though

 

[jjs07]

The two worst cities I've been in have both been in Jersey, Newark and Atlantic City. 

ac is lit man, casinos are fun. Don't ever remember going to Camden though

Atlantic City and "lit." Four words that probably have never been in a sentence together since 2012.

Place is a dump. Better options to gamble elsewhere.

 

[sreggie101]

central jersey is :x.

 

[alp]

Atlantic City and "lit." Four words that probably have never been in a sentence together since 2012.

Place is a dump. Better options to gamble elsewhere.

not really. Yonkers and Queens are fugazi and ballys got a style of poker which I really enjoy. Ultimate texas hold em, which pays 500 to 1 on a royal flush and has a bonus where you can win $1,000,000.

 

[jjs07]

Atlantic City and "lit." Four words that probably have never been in a sentence together since 2012.

Place is a dump. Better options to gamble elsewhere.

not really. Yonkers and Queens are fugazi and ballys got a style of poker which I really enjoy. Ultimate texas hold em, which pays 500 to 1 on a royal flush and has a bonus where you can win $1,000,000.

Mohegan/Foxwoods in CT...MD Live down 95, and soon to have MGM outside of DC.

So yea...I feel as though there are much better places to gamble than going to AC.

 

[illscan]

They are talking about putting a casino in The Meadowlands or right outside Liberty State Park in Jersey City. I'd mess with those. I don't like gambling enough to drive to AC, Yonkers or Queens.