MAKING A MURDERER | Season 2 on October 19th!

Was Steven Avery set up to take the fall?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 87.5%

  • No

    Votes: 1 12.5%
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I see Kratz's paralegal is still at it in here.

All those "facts" have been debunked in the MaM subreddit already. Especially the EDTA.

Next.... :D
 
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Just read some stuff, like the key chain difference. That isn't hard enough evidence to get him off.
 
WrightOne86 said:
Someone in the NFL thread just posted this tweet from the Cardinals/Packers game 
[QUOTE url="[URL]https://twitter.com/GovWalker[/URL]"]
Packers defense was chasing Fitzgerald like he was Steven Avery and they were the Manitowoc County Sheriff Dept @GovWalker
— Kim English (@Englishscope24)

January 17, 2016
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This is even funnier considering Teresa Halbach's brother works for the Packers, :lol:
 
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This Is The Most Credible 'Making A Murderer' Theory I've Seen
Read more at http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/1244/...r-Theory-I-ve-Seen-So-Far#HSSxEh747vMzdf8b.99

The Netflix documentary series Making A Murderer has taken the world by storm. This is a theory I saw on a Youtube comment and I had to share it...

The police didn't kill Theresa Halbach. Andrew Colborn located that RAV4 with the assistance of Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas who illegally trespassed onto the Avery Salvage Yard on the night of November 3rd 2005. Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas suspected something was up since the Avery Salvage Yard was the last place they knew Theresa visited on October 31, Halloween day. They went snooping on the property and found the car. They checked the car and found the key in the ignition and blood in the cargo area. Mike or Ryan removed the key from the ignition to ensure that no one could easily move the car off of the Avery property... freaked out about this huge discovery they call the Manitowoc Sheriffs Department. Andrew Colborn fielded the call that night and went out and met Ryan and Mike at the Salvage Yard so he could view the car for himself. Ryan and Mike show him the car and to be certain its Halbachs he "calls" in the plate number to dispatch. Colborn has to "call-in" instead of "radio-in" the plate number to Manitowoc dispatch because he wasn't in his police cruiser at the moment, but rather on foot and in the "field' on the Avery Salvage property. This mistake places Colborn at the scene and in contact with Halbachs RAV4 two days before it is officially located on November 5th, 2005, by Pam Sturm.

This is problematic for Colborn because all call and radio transmissions to dispatch are recorded and logged onto the Manitowoc Police server. Andrew Colborn is now operating outside of police protocol at a potential crime scene that he has no official directive to be at. He tells Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas to basically keep quiet about what they found and not mention to anyone that they were ever on the Avery Salvage property that night. Ryan or Mike turns the RAV4 key over to Andrew Colborn. Mike and Ryan are told to go home. Andrew Colborn then immediately calls Lt. James Lenk and briefs him about the discovery of the Halbach car and breaches of protocol he committed on the Avery property, also about Ryan Hillegas and Mike Halbach being there. Lt James Lenk realizing that Colborn's calling in Halbachs plate is a serious mistake with potential consequences orders Andrew Colborn to remove the license plate from Halbach's car and then report to him immediately.

What James Lenk and Andrew Colborn, or the others for that matter, don't realize at this point and are completely unaware of is that Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadych have kidnapped, raped, shot and then burned Theresa Halbach in the privacy of the gravel quarry off of Jambo road on Halloween evening. They choose to burn her body to dispose of their DNA evidence of the crimes. They hid Halbach's car in the rear of Avery Salvage and wiped it clean of their prints. I believe it is Scott Tadych's idea to secretly transport the cremains of Halbach from the gravel quarry and dispose them into Steven Avery's burn pit. Scott Tadych transports Halbach's cremains in secret by using one of Barb Jandas burn barrels from her yard. Scott Tadych fails to collect all of Halbach's cremains from the original burn site in the gravel quarry, thus leaving some behind that FBI investigators later find... but he also fails in making certain all of Halbach's cremains are out of Barb Jandas burn barrel after dumping them into Steven Avery's burn pit. This is why investigators found small bits of Halbach in Barb Jandas burn barrel. Thus making a total of three sites where Halbach's cremains are found. Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey are unaware that Ryan Hillegas and Mike Halbach have found Theresas car on the property and that Lenk and Colborn are now involved and in play with their scheme.

By shear colossal luck, two completely independent frame jobs targeting one man, Steven Avery were shaping up into the perfect storm. On one front, from Lenk and Colborn regarding the RAV4, and on the other unconnected front by Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey regarding the cremains of Theresa Halbach. One party wasn't aware of the other's involvements at any point during the days leading up to the official discovery of Halbach's RAV4 at the Avery Salvage Yard hence why the investigation and murder trial made zero sense to anyone especially the Jury.

None of the evidence could be connected because it was all unrelated -- everybody was guessing. But Buting and Strang had zeroed in on a part of it but couldn't fully form a solid defense to prove it. The Jury couldn't conceive that Manitowoc officers could have conspired to kill Theresa Halbach to frame Steven Avery as Ken Kratz insisted they had to if they wanted to follow the theory the defense presented of the frame up of Steven Avery by Manitowoc officials. And Ken Kratz was right. Imagine Scott Tadych's confused and utter relief when Steve Avery's blood was found in the Halbach car and the RAV4 key found in Steve Avery's bedroom. He must have been like WTF?!

A quote from Scott Tadych after Steven Avery is convicted of Theresa Halbach's murder: "THIS IS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN." We will see Scott, we will see........."

This is probably the most credible theory I have come across so far. Notice how the events here not only make logical sense, but they also line up with how many of the parties involved behaved during the documentary. For example, how Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas seemed like they knew more about what happened than they were leading on. As well as Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey's bizarre hostility towards Steven Avery.

I can't see another theory topping this one.
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That’s an incredible theory and makes a ton of sense. The problem with it though is that it doesn’t give motives for Scott or Bobby to commit the crimes, how and why her RAV4 are on the lot, and why Steve’s blood is in the vehicle.
 
Olympus said:
That’s an incredible theory and makes a ton of sense. The problem with it though is that it doesn’t give motives for Scott or Bobby to commit the crimes, how and why her RAV4 are on the lot, and why Steve’s blood is in the vehicle.
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Exactly my thoughts. It doesn't explain the blood in the vehicle, which is a huge deal.
 
The blood is the most damning evidence of all if the EDTA tests are reliable which was argued. However, the shadiness behind it is what creates some doubt in my mind. They said they could or wouldn’t be able to have results for months, but then came up with them in a matter of days. But Steve’s DNA sat in a lab for a year before they finally got to it to exonerate him.

On the flip side, the seals on the box containing Steve’s blood vial were apparently broken by an investigative team in 2002 and the hole in the rubber cap is standard and proper procedure for inserting the blood in the first place and at the same time, would that hole not be able to be used to extract blood without any signs of doing so? And EVEN IF they did use that hole to extract the blood to be planted, you can’t prove they did because the hole was already there so unless it was recorded exactly how much blood was in the vial so it can be measured and deduced that there is some missing, proving that blood was extracted from the vial when the broken seals and the hole in the cap are already explained would be impossible.

This case is insane.
 
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Just finished this last night and can't stop thinking about it. Innocent or guilty this is the most fascinating thing I've ever watched.

Can Fargo season 3 just be this with the theory posted above about the brother in law and Brendan's brother, please?
 
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Edward Wayne Edwards lived a life that you'd find in a Hollywood thriller and would actually make a great movie :smh: Somebody could stroll up and confess to killing ol girl, they still aint lettin Steven and Brendan out
 
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