I get that, but what Nike has done is create their own bot. That's what it is. I know people will strike out, but you have to think Nike's bot should have an advantage over a 3rd party.
the app wont have an advantage over bots becasue some of these bots out there have a hack, where it manipulates the countdown timer and carts before the shoe releases.
Come on guys. You're trying to convince me that some nerdy kid in a basement can design an application that can interface with Nike's API's better than Nike can. Make no mistake about it, the SNKRS app IS a bot, and it should be able to beat out any hack some kid came out with.
If that was the case "professionals" would of bought all of the chromposites. I was able to bypass the timer by changing the time on m y computer, but it tstill wont let you add to cart until they release pairs. Like many others said I think nike just gives priority to app users. No way am I faster with my app than my bot on my computer but I have been able to cart and purchase quicker with the app than my computer every time since nike sent me my code. However I did not go after the cortez this morning with the app and my bot carted them and held them for about 30 minutes in my cart. I could see myself paying $100 for a pair of dopemans. I guess everything gets hyped up in 2015.
I think Nike's API interface is being over ran by hackers and Yes they are beating Nike at it's own game
I think Nike's API interface is being over ran by hackers and Yes they are beating Nike at it's own game. Nike building the SNKRS app is a start but it's not going to work as long as there are hackers out there. It's like Nike isn't really trying to fix the issue
Fixing the issue would hurt there profit margin, at some point you have to ask yourself is stopping people from purchasing all of our inventory really such a bad thing. Especially if your target customers will buy it in the second hand market. They could go ll out againt bots but why they are a shoe company not a software company. Maybe we should be fortunate they addressed the issue at all.
Perfect. Then you know that Nike would have to ways to manipulate their own API.. Without knowing the architecture of which outside sources have access to the API, they could even develop a private API which is only accessible through their APP. Assign priority to anyone waiting on the app to ensure bots lose out.
The answer to your question is YES, its a bad thing and Nike realizes it is bad. It leaves a bad taste in people's mouths and although Nike is riding high right now, this sort of CRAZY loyalty we are saying is guaranteed in the future.
Its your job to tell me how much it costs, its my job to make a business case with a beneficial ROI
Are you aware of all the hoops that people are currently jmping through to get shoes today? If they are willing to fill out raffle tickets, campout over night, develop or purchase a bot, pay resellers, pay atc services, take family members with them to get raffle tickets, pay for snkrs access codes, look for backdoor methods, etc...... I highly doubt that people will get that upset, if anything it makes people more hungry. At this point its just the nature of the beast. I hope that in the long run the app helps more individual people purchase the shoes but untimately nike controls the supply and they are a billion dollar company that has other departments besides IT and fraud prevention. The marketing department is probably getting bonus checks soon. I wonder if sales have gone up since the app released.
Its your job to tell me how much it costs, its my job to make a business case with a beneficial ROI
At least we both agree that it can be done.. hopefully they will do it cause they have the money. Anyway its all good *fistbump*
Yes, I don't understand the requirement that you mentioned in the last sentence. If authentication is mandatory, why not let us authenticate before the launch so we don't have to do it once its in the cart and we are trying to check out. It's probably someone in the business who asked for this functionality without understanding how it impacts the user experience. It's easy to fix if they care.. but Im aligned with you and although they are trying to appear to care about this, they don't.. well not enough anyway.
Honestly, nike COULD do more but I honestly think a lot of it is a smokescreen to make them look great.
When comparing versus it's vendors, it's actually doing more. Like it seems like Eastbay and finishline and them really don't care who buys the product as long as it sells.
Nike has put out things that show "attempts" to make it right.
It's also funny that nike will preorder shoes that no one cares about but not for the limited/hyped shoes that everyone wants.
There is a tech side and a business side but we both know the business side just want sales.
These bot users are actually doing nike a favor because they make the product appear to be way less in available than they actually were and creating more demand.
Also, while a lot of us are typing or pasting our passwords into the app, people are killing the carts with their own stuff.
Anyone with common sense would know that this design flaw results in the latency that can give the advantage back to automated users.
CAPTCHA was real glitch though, and the bots had just figured it out so Im sure your success rate was ready to take a tumble.
I didn't develop it but that might be part of the process that actually helps the consumer. If your trying to beat automating forcing people to do something manually is essential. If you can enter password before hand then you could set up multiple mobile devices before hand on several accounts and cook. But if you have to type passwords on multiple devices upon release your place in line in compromised everytime you have to enter a password.
First go to settings, and make sure you select your size and set up billing and shipping info. The app will save your size so on release dates your size will be pre selected. You can follow specifis styles of shoes like jordans, air maxes, Kds, etc. The app has a feed similar to twitter where you can see upcoming and recent releases. If you see a shoe you like you can click the notify button and it will get text like notifications as the release date and time approaches. On release day it doesnt show a timer but the notification button will turn into a buy button with the size you selected in the settings next to it. You can change the size here if you need to or just press buy. I will attempt to cart the shoes for you after you enter your password. They will try to cart the shoes for you but if they are unable to right away it will ask if for permission to purchase if your size becomes available. If you click yes it will automatically purchase the shoe for you if it becomes available. I find this helpful on weekday releases and I'm at work so I dont have to keep checking the computer to see if I'm still in line or not. I basically got in line for the aunt pearls and told the app check out for me if they become avaible and went back to teaching my class. Looked at the app later and saw the success message. Where before I would have to monitor if they carted and go back and manually complete the purchase.
QFT I had the opposite experience with captcha. I had to enter like 4 sets of pictures, I would get booted out of line, some people had captcha some didn't, site kept crashing, check out errors galore, cart shoes but couldnt checkout until 4 hours later the list goes on. Then people figured out how to bypass it, I think they could even tell if nike was using it before releases. I know I'm glad thats gone the last thing I wanted to be doing was play matching games at 7 in the morning.
Always something to try it on these days, I thought the Gumps would be an easy pickup but apparently a lot of people struck out. Martians drop next week not sure if that is a good test or not. But most retros sell out these days and even if they don't most folks have their bots running anyways because they are trying to sell carts. Don't want your first test to be on a release you really want . I got a feeling some quick strikes are on the way in the next couple of weeks also.
