Noah and His Age.

[htg designs]

...so basically your'e saying you're forced into life.

I look at it as cause and effect. Weather it is your own, someone around you, or someone before you. We are all connected and effect each other.

 

[Comparison Ford]

 

...so basically your'e saying you're forced into life.

I look at it as cause and effect. Weather it is your own, someone around you, or someone before you. We are all connected and effect each other.

Regardless, you're not conscious of the decision and you don't have a choice.  I don't see how that's voluntary.

 

[boris]

I think I understand your concern. Your saying : If we are sinners and sinners deserve judgement, why are we set up to fail? If that is what your asking, we dont have to live in sin. We make mistakes but if we can acknowledge them, learn from them and try to avoid them then that is true repentance. Calling ourselves sinners is not even accurate. We possess the capability to sin ( and do so often and easily) but we dont have to. Thats like calling a race car driver a speeder. Yea they do 200 mph for a living but that dont mean they do that everyday.

Allow me to try to clarify. What I am arguing is that we didn't choose to exist, god chose for us to exist. It is therefore irrational for god to be upset with us when he, presumably, understood the potential consequences when creating us. I am responsible for my actions and the repercussions that follow, why isn't god? Ultimately, it is his fault, he should accept his mistake instead of blaming us. 

Your werent forced into life. You are the result of your mother and fathers decision ( or lack there of : no diss, but lot of kids are unplanned. )

This shows that I had no decision. I was forced into existence.

 

[shoelyesses]

 
I don't believe in the white man's God but I would wear robes, Jesus sandals and a Bible around my neck to get up in that thang.

str8 feel her up...and what not... and when she ask/try to stop you just tell her your laying hands on her....

 

[sn00pee]

Allow me to try to clarify. What I am arguing is that we didn't choose to exist, god chose for us to exist. It is therefore irrational for god to be upset with us when he, presumably, understood the potential consequences when creating us. I am responsible for my actions and the repercussions that follow, why isn't god? Ultimately, it is his fault, he should accept his mistake instead of blaming us. 

This shows that I had no decision. I was forced into existence.

Sorry to butt in, but if you had children and they did wrong, would you not be mad at them? Your parents may be the heavenliness people on the world, but what you do is your problems. Yes, you were "forced" into existence, but mankind made the mistake, even after all of what "god" has done.

Yea its kinda like a parent/child situation. Except nobody ever seen the baby daddy.

 

[dankenstien88]

 

[streetsampras]

 Perfect response for any religion thread 

 

[retro23j]

.....are y'all responding just to refute each other stances?

 

[boris]

Sorry to butt in, but if you had children and they did wrong, would you not be mad at them? Your parents may be the heavenliness people on the world, but what you do is your problems. Yes, you were "forced" into existence, but mankind made the mistake, even after all of what "god" has done.

Yea its kinda like a parent/child situation. Except nobody ever seen the baby daddy.

Getting mad at a child for disobeying and telling them that they deserve death for disobeying are very different. 

If children are habitually disobedient, we blame the parenting. 

People have children for selfish reasons. That's what I'm getting at with god. 

 

[Comparison Ford]

 

Allow me to try to clarify. What I am arguing is that we didn't choose to exist, god chose for us to exist. It is therefore irrational for god to be upset with us when he, presumably, understood the potential consequences when creating us. I am responsible for my actions and the repercussions that follow, why isn't god? Ultimately, it is his fault, he should accept his mistake instead of blaming us. 

This shows that I had no decision. I was forced into existence.

Sorry to butt in, but if you had children and they did wrong, would you not be mad at them? Your parents may be the heavenliness people on the world, but what you do is your problems. Yes, you were "forced" into existence, but mankind made the mistake, even after all of what "god" has done.

Yea its kinda like a parent/child situation. Except nobody ever seen the baby daddy.

....so god is essentially a deadbeat dad?

 

[Brownstone]

Wait, OP is serious with his talk of how humans used to live to 500? 

I'm sure this thread is like countless other religion threads on here over the years, but  someone taking ages seriously is a first, I should rep for the originality. Next he going to be saying Abraham was almost 200 too. My only concern is people like this actually vote, and serve on jury's. 

 

[Nouss]

The funniest part is that history/anthropology tells us that humans lived considerably shorter lives back then due to a multitude of different reasons.

 

[tupac jordan]

^scientist make stuff up while God is real.

 

[shoelyesses]

^scientist make stuff up while God is real.

says the guy who is using internet and cpu that was built and based on science.... how bout posting just using god

 

[Gordonson]

^scientist make stuff up while God is real.

says the guy who is using internet and cpu that was built and based on science.... how bout posting just using god

He was being sarcastic

 

[shoelyesses]

He was being sarcastic

bout to say...... if he created and connected the world, surely he can connect to the w.w.w

 

[isnx2]

Is God deaf?

BEST THING SAID IN THIS WHOLE THREAD.

Remember when I brazenly said that I don't respect anyone that believes in the bible or any other holy book?  

This is why.

I dont respect you or your avy. That trick sucks.
Nothing to do with your beliefs.