Official 2016 NBA Playoffs Thread: Conference Finals: Warriors / Thunder | Cavs / Raptors

[MVP]

No Shaq?

If we're talking after 2003, Shaq never cracked 23 ppg again in his career after being in the top 4 in the league from 00-03 at about 28 ppg

 

[ill steelo]

actual elite scorers like steph and KD can get 30 by halftime every other week

all I see is a bunch of excuses to why this guy cant put up big scoring numbers

cant blame the system for his lack of scoring when the system is the reason for his scoring 

Steph & KD don't do that, though.

I'm not blaming the system for anything. It's produced the 3rd best offensive team in the league

 

[sea manup]

 

 

 

actual elite scorers like steph and KD can get 30 by halftime every other week

all I see is a bunch of excuses to why this guy cant put up big scoring numbers

cant blame the system for his lack of scoring when the system is the reason for his scoring 

Steph & KD don't do that, though.

I'm not blaming the system for anything. It's produced the 3rd best offensive team in the league

is jj redick an elite scorer? 

 

[MVP]

KYRIE? 

Nah. He doesn't do it consistently enough.

 

[deekaleci]

damn some dudes are actually choosing OKC over the spurs for this next round which is astounding imo

 

[JD617]

There's no one set definition of elite, so Idk if it makes sense to even argue about it, but Kawhi came a few percentage points away from 50/40/90 with a 25%+ usage rate. Not as high usage as guys like Curry, KD, and LeBron, but it's also not like he's some low-volume spot up shooter out there either. Whatever labels you guys want to give him or not give him, he's pretty damn good.

 

[CP1708]

There's no one set definition of elite, so Idk if it makes sense to even argue about it, but Kawhi came a few percentage points away from 50/40/90 with a 25%+ usage rate. Not as high usage as guys like Curry, KD, and LeBron, but it's also not like he's some low-volume spot up shooter out there either. Whatever labels you guys want to give him or not give him, he's pretty damn good.

Couple seasons away from being one of the greatest Point Guards in history as well.

 

[MVP]

Couple seasons away from being one of the greatest Point Guards in history as well.

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[antidope]

Did someone say "put $10K" or even "$25K" on the Spurs if we really believe?

I'll do that

This would be epic. Someone please do this.

 

[Based Jesus]

 

 
Since MJ? Shaq, Kobe, TMac, KD, Melo, Bron, Steph, Dirk, Kyrie, Harden, Russ, Iverson, Wade

I'm probly forgetting a lot more

KYRIE? 

You don't consider him elite? He can kill you from inside or outside. He gets to the rim at will and finishes very well through contact with either hand.

 

KYRIE? 

Nah. He doesn't do it consistently enough.

How much of that comes from being made of glass? When he's healthy and not playing through or coming back from an injury he's fine.

Oh which reminds me, D Rose 

 

[sea manup]

Is pop the greatest equipment manager of all time?

 

[CP1708]

San Antonio gotta be considered one of the best cities in Florida, right?

For whale watching at least.

 

[MVP]

You don't consider him elite? He can kill you from inside or outside. He gets to the rim at will and finishes very well through contact with either hand.


How much of that comes from being made of glass? When he's healthy and not playing through or coming back from an injury he's fine.

Oh which reminds me, D Rose 

Elite implies consistency to me at least, every night you coming in and getting buckets. Availability factors in as well you got to be there. Klay is the same way, he's capable of going off like maybe nobody else in the league outside of his teammate, but he doesn't do it every night.

Kyrie has never cracked 23 ppg in a season.

 

[pums]

Prime Dirk was elite

 

[thirdtimearound]

If people include Kyrie might as well include KLove lmaoo

 

[IATT]

westbrook won a scoring title last year.. just sayin'

 

[MVP]

Yea I forgot the point Godzilla

 

[Bad Religion]

Kerr won COTY. I really thought Stotts would have it. 

Missing 30 games apparently doesn't matter. 

 

[antidope]

Now Russell Westbrook goes but Kawhi can't?

I am confident in stating that if you give Kawhi 23 shots a game then you would see an output that you guys need to be considered elite because this conversation seems to be biased towards totals and PPG.

 

[MVP]

Now Russell Westbrook goes but Kawhi can't?

I am confident in stating that if you give Kawhi 23 shots a game then you would see an output that you guys need to be considered elite because this conversation seems to be biased towards totals and PPG.

Well he'll likely never get that chance so we won't see.

And on the other hand if he does and starts to put up 25 a game every night at minimum, this can be revisited. But as of right now he's an efficient scorer not an elite one.

 

[sea manup]

Why would being an elite scorer not be biased towards scoring totals?

 

[Brownstone]

 
Kerr won COTY. I really thought Stotts would have it. 

Missing 30 games apparently doesn't matter. 

Double standard, because you know a player wouldn't win MVP with missing 1/3rd of the season

 

[sea manup]

But to be fair if they can trick basketball fans into thinking a top 5 C is the goat PF then I don't blame them for trying to trick people into thinking a top 15 scorer is elite

 

[shoeking2102]

Chris Paul per 36, was at 22 a game on 46/37/90 this past season.

Elite level scorer?

 

 

[hoosierdaddy317]

 
Chris Paul per 36, was at 22 a game on 46/37/90 this past season.

Elite level scorer?

 

CP3 averages 19 and 10 a game over a course of 10 years. That ***** gets buckets b especially at 6 ft 175