***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[IATT]

 

[whywesteppin]

trump has no shame. he's a despicable human being devoid of any redeeming qualities. his golf story about the voter fraud is pure ********. his comments about the pew story about voter fraud is pure ********. his fake hair is pure ********. his sex life is pure ********. his sons are pure ********. his casinos were pure ********. his penthouse is pure gold-covered ********. his face is pure orange ******** with ******** white raccoon eyes.

 

[EddieDoyers]

The solutions you have listed are so obvious but the damn president isn't flexible on changing to that....because it would mean he was wrong
And he doesn't like being wrong

We talking about Trumpo, famb.

If son can finesse his way into presidency, he can finesse his way into appearing correct while fixing his mistakes.

Dude will say some an admission of wrong decision-making cloaked in white supremacist nonsense

We are going to be in for a wild 4 years

 

[EddieDoyers]

I really want to have pity for them, but I don't
The warning signs were there

 

[RustyShackleford]

The only way I would even be remotely comfortable with any kind of banking deregulation is if there was a guarantee than when the next bubble burst we bail out the consumers, nationalize just enough banking to stabilize the system, and we jail the white collar criminals.

Let the free market ravage the rest of the the banks that get caught up.

Tired of people warming up to socialism onto when it suits

 

[RustyShackleford]

Many conservatives are free market loving capitalist...... until they need to government's help.

 

[whywesteppin]

I really want to have pity for them, but I don't
The warning signs were there

to point and laugh, vol 3

what do they have to lose though...

 

[Nike Jordan]

#AreYouSorryYet

 

[Mark Antony]

So the people yelling socialist the past 8 years, who were actually benefiting from socialist programs but voted in a man to cut socialist programs are crying because he's cutting them? what sympathy am I to have for them?

 

[IATT]

This dude legit delusional

 

[EddieDoyers]

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[handullz]

I wonder what Trump voter polls are going to look like in six months

 

[iDon’tRead]

If only we could do a recall vote like they did to gray Davis

 

[EddieDoyers]

If only we could do a recall vote like they did to gray Davis

lets just say that even if congress get trump impeached for his many constitutional violations, we would be stuck with Mike "pray the gay away" Pence
We got loons running the asylum the next 4 years

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[ksteezy]

This dude legit delusional

He's mentally sick, how can someone feel themselves so much regardless of clear facts he's not liked....OH WAIT

 

[sfc415]

I don't get it. I'm imagining being an illiterate Ttump supporter who voted for the dude because he said he would build a wall to curb illegal immigration, and that he would have Mexico pay for it. If he suddenly starts using MY money to pay for it, isn't that fradulent? If I happened to vote for Trump, I'd be even more upset than I am as an anti Trump person.

Yes, I know every president uses our tax dollars for things we are against, but this wall that was going to be paid for by Mexico was one of the top 3 things Trump promised to his voters for his entire damn campaign

 

[IATT]

She voted for 1

 

[Deleted member 42060]

trump has no shame. he's a despicable human being devoid of any redeeming qualities. his golf story about the voter fraud is pure ********. his comments about the pew story about voter fraud is pure ********. his fake hair is pure ********. his sex life is pure ********. his sons are pure ********. his casinos were pure ********. his penthouse is pure gold-covered ********. his face is pure orange ******** with ******** white raccoon eyes.

His voters and supporters are bigger shames :smh

 

[ksteezy]

Damn man...I feel bad for the countless good people that are here illegally specially in the big cities like NY and LA

 

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[RustyShackleford]

Apparently Ben Barson is the loon we think he is, imagine that

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/25/14388934/warren-brown-carson-hud

 

[whywesteppin]

Did you guys watch the Muir/ABC News interview?

I'm watching clips (via twitter) and every ******* word is baffling. Utter stupidity and nonsense. Here are some gems, but you should read or watch the whole thing:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tran...d-muir-interviews-president/story?id=45047602

DAVID MUIR: What you have presented so far has been debunked. It's been called ...

(OVERTALK)

DAVID MUIR: ... false.

[COLOR=#red]PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, it hasn't. Take a look at the Pew reports.

DAVID MUIR: I called the author of the Pew report last night. And he told me that they found no evidence of voter ...

(OVERTALK)

DAVID MUIR: ... fraud.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Really? Then why did he write the report?

DAVID MUIR: He said no evidence of voter fraud.[/COLOR]

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Excuse me, then why did he write the report?

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: According to Pew report, then he's -- then he's groveling again. You know, I always talk about the reporters that grovel when they wanna write something that you wanna hear but not necessarily millions of people wanna hear or have to hear.

DAVID MUIR: So, you’ve launched an investigation?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: We're gonna launch an investigation to find out. And then the next time --[COLOR=#red] and I will say this, of those votes cast, none of 'em come to me. None of 'em come to me. They would all be for the other side. None of 'em come to me[/COLOR]. But when you look at the people that are registered: dead, illegal and two states and some cases maybe three states -- we have a lot to look into.

DAVID MUIR: ... those people who are on the rolls voted, that there are millions of illegal votes?

[COLOR=#red]PRESIDENT TRUMP: I didn't say there are millions. But I think there could very well be millions of people. That's right.[/COLOR]

DAVID MUIR: You tweeted though ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: And I also say this ...

DAVID MUIR: ... you tweeted, "If you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally, I won the popular vote."

PRESIDENT TRUMP: David, and I also say this, if I was going for the popular vote I would've won easily. But I would've been in California and New York. I wouldn't have been in Maine. I wouldn't have been in Iowa. I wouldn't have been in Nebraska and all of those states that I had to win in order to win this. I would've been in New York, I would've been in California. I never even went there.

DAVID MUIR: Let me just ask you, you did win. You're the president. You're sitting ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: That’s true.

DAVID MUIR: ... across from me right now.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: That's true.

DAVID MUIR: Do you think that your words matter more now?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yes, very much.

DAVID MUIR: Do you think that that talking about millions of illegal votes is dangerous to this country without presenting the evidence?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, not at all.

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Not at all because many people feel the same way that I do. And ...

DAVID MUIR: You don't think it undermines your credibility if there’s no evidence?

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, not at all because they didn't come to me. Believe me. Those were Hillary votes. And if you look at it they all voted for Hillary. They all voted for Hillary. They didn't vote for me. I don't believe I got one. Okay, these are people that voted for Hillary Clinton. And if they didn't vote, it would've been different in the popular.

Now, you have to understand I -- I focused on those four or five states that I had to win. Maybe she didn't. She should've gone to Michigan. She thought she had it in the bag. She should've gone to Wisconsin, she thought she had it because you're talking about 38 years of, you know, Democrat wins. But they didn't. I went to Michigan, I went to Wisconsin. I went to Pennsylvania all the time. I went to all of the states that are -- Florida and North Carolina. That's all I focused on.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: OK, so I'm glad you asked. So, I went to the CIA, my first step. I have great respect for the people in intelligence and CIA. I'm -- I don't have a lot of respect for, in particular one of the leaders. But that's okay. But I have a lot of respect for the people in the CIA.

That speech was a home run. That speech, if you look at Fox, OK, I'll mention you -- we see what Fox said. They said it was one of the great speeches. [COLOR=#red]They showed the people applauding and screaming and -- and they were all CIA.[/COLOR] There was -- somebody was asking Sean -- "Well, were they Trump people that were put--" we don't have Trump people. They were CIA people.

That location was given to me. Mike Pence went up before me, paid great homage to the wall. I then went up, paid great homage to the wall. I then spoke to the crowd. I got a standing ovation. [COLOR=#red]In fact, they said it was the biggest standing ovation since Peyton Manning had won the Super Bowl and they said it was equal. I got a standing ovation. It lasted for a long period of time.[/COLOR] What you do is take -- take out your tape -- you probably ran it live. I know when I do good speeches. I know when I do bad speeches. That speech was a total home run. They loved it. I could've ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, you keep bringing it up. I had a massive amount of people here. They were showing pictures that were very unflattering, as unflattering -- from certain angles -- that were taken early and lots of other things. I'll show you a picture later if you’d like of a massive crowd.

In terms of a total audience including television and everything else that you have we had supposedly the biggest crowd in history. The audience watching the show. And I think you would even agree to that. They say I had the biggest crowd in the history of inaugural speeches. I'm honored by that. But I didn't bring it up. You just brought it up.

DAVID MUIR: See, I -- I'm not interested in the inaugural crowd size. I think the American people can look at images side by side and decide for themselves. I am curious about the first full day here at the White House, choosing to send the press secretary out into the briefing room, summoning reporters to talk about the inaugural crowd size. Does that send a message to the American people that that's -- that's more important than some of the very pressing issues?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Part of my whole victory was that the men and women of this country who have been forgotten will never be forgotten again. Part of that is when they try and demean me unfairly 'cause we had a massive crowd of people. We had a crowd -- I looked over that sea of people and I said to myself, "Wow."

And I've seen crowds before. Big, big crowds. That was some crowd. When I looked at the numbers that happened to come in from all of the various sources, we had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches. I said the men and women that I was talking to who came out and voted will never be forgotten again. Therefore I won't allow you or other people like you to demean that crowd and to demean the people that came to Washington, D.C., from faraway places because they like me. But more importantly they like what I'm saying.

DAVID MUIR: I just wanna say I didn't demean anyone who was in that crowd. We did coverage for hours ...

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: [COLOR=#red]No, I think you’re demeaning by talking the way you're talking. I think you're demeaning. And that's why I think a lot of people turned on you and turned on a lot of other people. And that's why you have a 17 percent approval rating, which is pretty bad.

DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you about some of the countries that won't be on the list, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia. Why are we going to allow people to come into this country ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: You're going to see -- you're going to see.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#red]We're going to have extreme vetting in all cases. And I mean extreme. And we're not letting people in if we think there's even a little chance of some problem.[/COLOR]

DAVID MUIR: You've heard the critics who say that would break all international law, taking the oil. But I wanna get to the words ...

(OVERTALK)

DAVID MUIR: ... that you ...

[COLOR=#red]PRESIDENT TRUMP: Wait, wait, can you believe that? Who are the critics who say that? Fools.

DAVID MUIR: Let, let me ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: I don't call them critics. I call them fools.[/COLOR]

DAVID MUIR: ... let me talk about your words ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: We should've kept -- excuse me. We should've taken the oil. And if we took the oil you wouldn't have ISIS. And we would have had wealth. We have spent right now $6 trillion in the Middle East. And our country is falling apart.

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Our roads -- excuse me. Our roads, our bridges, our schools, it's falling apart. We have spent as of one month ago $6 trillion in the Middle East. And in our country we can't afford to build a school in Brooklyn or we can't afford to build a school in Los Angeles. And we can't afford to fix up our inner cities. We can't afford to do anything. Look, it's time. It's been our longest war. We've been in there for 15, 16 years. Nobody even knows what the date is because they don't really know when did we start. But it's time. It's time.

DAVID MUIR: What got my attention, Mr. President, was when you said, "Maybe we'll have another chance."

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, don't let it get your attention too much because we'll see what happens. I mean, we're gonna see what happens. You know, I told you and I told everybody else that wants to talk when it comes to the military I don't wanna discuss things.

I wanna let -- I wanna let the action take place before the talk takes place. I watched in Mosul when a number of months ago generals and politicians would get up and say, "We're going into Mosul in four months." Then they'd say, "We're going in in three months, two months, one month. We're going in next week."

Okay, and I kept saying to myself, "Gee, why do they have to keep talking about going in?" All right, so now they go in and it is tough because they're giving the enemy all this time to prepare. I don't wanna do a lot of talking on the military. I wanna talk after it's finished, not before it starts.

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[Deleted member 42060]

Im afraid we're heading toward the age where disinformation will try to become the norm if trump tries to manipulate or heavily sway the MSM with his pockets or thru force

As long as we got the net, anon, and truthful journalism im sure trump cant get away with his lies