***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

This has been her position from jump.

She is still in a conservative party, she just occupies the left of the spectrum in her party. Sort like Nixon.

Germany is just on average more liberal than America, so it kind distorts things when you look at their politicians

 

[rillo561]

Didn't know it was illegal in Germany, wow. However the bill passed, good for them.

 

[Belgium]

Meanwhile on Fox News...

As for Merkel, she supported civil unions, which did offer most of the legal benefits of marriage but lacked some key elements like adoption rights etc.

Now the LGBT community has fully equal rights. Merkel voted no as a protest vote because she had personal objections to it but I don't think she minds the new law. She was probably certain it would pass. While I wouldn't call her biblethumper at all, at the end of the day she's still a christian and those kinds of views on gay marriage aren't very surprising. 

 

[elpablo21]

To the career men & women at DOJ/FBI: your actions and integrity will be unfairly questioned. Be prepared, be strong. Duty. Honor. Country.
— Eric Holder (@EricHolder) June 30, 2017

Last time he said something like this, Comey was fired 

Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
— Pwn All The Things (@pwnallthethings) June 30, 2017

I have no idea what this is about, but @pwnallthethings is a serious guy, a former GCHQ hacker, and a true deep stater. #distributedticks https://t.co/3zNgAmF7s0
— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) June 30, 2017

 

 

[RustyShackleford]

Lincoln Chafee is thinking of running for president again, bruh

 

[aepps20]

Lincoln Chafee is thinking of running for president again, bruh

He just got there.

 

[gry60]

Meanwhile on Fox News...



As for Merkel, she supported civil unions, which did offer most of the legal benefits of marriage but lacked some key elements like adoption rights etc.
Now the LGBT community has fully equal rights. Merkel voted no as a protest vote because she had personal objections to it but I don't think she minds the new law. She was probably certain it would pass. While I wouldn't call her biblethumper at all, at the end of the day she's still a christian and those kinds of views on gay marriage aren't very surprising. 

Are they lurking NT? How come they have the "teachers are hungry for these young bodies" discussion on their front page?

 

[noskey]

Lincoln Chafee is thinking of running for president again, bruh

We, as a nation, need this to happen. The lulz can't stop at 2016.

 

[aepps20]

Honest Abe Lincoln Chafee is a suitable second choice if Benjamin Franklin Carson doesn't run.

 

[elpablo21]

The Progressive Liberal Heel

The "Liberal Agenda" finsihing move

 

[whywesteppin]

The problem is that none of this hurts trump with his base. The only thing that would is if trump started acting sane and showed respect to others.

You're absolutely right about this. They see it as "fighting back" it's so ridiculous how far this cult has gone out of it's way to make excuses for Trump.

Yeah. The democrats and media need to call them out and say how stupid they look.

His escort wife talks about fighting against online bullying but says her owner gets bullied so he hits back ten times worse.

sarah huckabee just says he's fighting back.

He likes insulting people on their looks then everyone needs to just refer to him as an orange piece of crap.

People should report his twitter for posting hateful stuff and insulting people. Delete his garbage account.

I've started reporting his tweets. Doubt anything will come if it, but the 0.1% chance that Twitter deletes his account is oh so worth it.

 

[elpablo21]

22 states now won't hand over voter info to Kobach: CA, CT, IN, KY, MA, MN, NC, NM, ND, NV, NY, OH, OK, PA, RI, SD, TN, UT, VA, VT, WA, WI
— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) June 30, 2017

 

[dreamer23]

god damn texas...

 

[aepps20]

I've started reporting his tweets. Doubt anything will come if it, but the 0.1% chance that Twitter deletes his account is oh so worth it.

We need to REPORT the vicious lies being spread about DAPPER Don right here on NT.

 

[whywesteppin]

I've started reporting his tweets. Doubt anything will come if it, but the 0.1% chance that Twitter deletes his account is oh so worth it.

We need to REPORT the vicious lies being spread about DAPPER Don right here on NT.

I've TRIED over and over, comrade. But we all know Meth is in Soros's pocket. Dirty tried to raise the alarm but we all saw what happened to him. He has DISAPPEARED.

 

[rexanglorum]

We do need to rid ourselves of this belief that Trump base is totally ignorant of economics. Most of them know that a trade war causes economic damage and that is the point. The calculation is that a trade war will cause even more damage to the Democratic coalition than to the Trump coalition.

Trump base looks out and sees society's "winner's" and they all seem to not produce anything tangible. In that respect they are correct, we have become an extractive economy and the people who make a lot of money are lobbyists; who take from tax payers; financiers; who make most of their money by taking money out of the real economy; tech guys, who most most of their money by manipulating the patent system and the elite of the service industry who run the restaurants and hotels and yoga studios that service the extractive overlords of the economy.

What Trump supporters get totally wrong is who makes up this extractive elite. Conservative propaganda is very persistent it its claims that most wealthy people are liberals. The popular sleight of hand is to provide a few antecdotes about a Hollywood, Silicon Valley or New York City billionaire's life style, point out that said billionaire is a Democrat, point out that said billionaire's county or region of residence overwhelming votes blue and ipso facto, every one in California or New York is a super wealthy out of touch limousine liberal who hates the people in the rest of the Country. Articles like these have become a cottage industry for conservative writers and the narrative has stuck.

So it would be inaccurate to say that Trump's supporters are totally ignorant of the economy, they have a little bit of understanding and lot of ignorance as well. Their understanding of economics and the state of the American economy is sophomoric. The truth is that most of the upper and upper middle class is conservative.

We all know about the racism of Trump's base but let's not discount the producerism. For Trump's most hardcore supporters, a trade war combined with unlimited mineral extraction permits would be a net gain for them, in the very short run at least.

 

[aepps20]

I've TRIED over and over, comrade. But we all know Meth is in Soros's pocket. Dirty tried to raise the alarm but we all saw what happened to him. He has DISAPPEARED.

You know who also DISAPPEARED? JRose5, he was a REAL AMERICAN and MOD. HE stayed exposing LIBBIE SNOWFLAKES until a group of LIBBIES reported Fake News and Doctored PMs to Meth and he was gone.

 

[Belgium]

Alex Jones is now talking about some lunatic theory that NASA is secretly running a child slave colony on Mars 

 

I know the guy's a total nutjob but jesus. 

 

[Belgium]

More good old biblethumping, what could possibly go wrong?

https://www.apnews.com/59b82e28bca6...uld-let-churches-endorse-political-candidates

Churches should have the right to endorse political candidates and still keep their tax-free status, say House Republicans targeting a law that prohibits such outright politicking from the pulpit.

Republicans repeatedly have failed to scrap the law preventing churches and other nonprofits from backing candidates, so now they are trying to starve it. With little fanfare, a House Appropriations subcommittee added a provision that would deny money to the IRS to enforce the 63-year-old law to a bill to fund the Treasury Department, Securities and Exchange Commission and other agencies.

The subcommittee passed the bill Thursday.

Republicans say the law is enforced unevenly, leaving religious leaders uncertain about what they are allowed to say and do.

“I believe that churches have a right of free speech and an opportunity to talk about positions and issues that are relevant to their faith,” said Rep. Jim Renacci, R-Ohio.

Some Democrats say the measure comes too close to mixing church and state. They say religious leaders already have First Amendment rights, just like anyone else. But if they want to get political, they don’t have a constitutional right not to pay taxes.

Some also worry that the measure could upend the system of campaign financing by allowing churches to use their tax-free status to funnel money to political candidates.

Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., recalled a speech that former President John F. Kennedy gave to religious leaders when he was running for president.

“He said the pope wouldn’t tell him what to do, and the people in that audience shouldn’t be telling people on Sunday morning who to vote for,” Neal said. “I don’t think churches should be endorsing.”

Many nonprofit groups want to avoid politics. In April, 4,500 nonprofit groups signed onto a letter to congressional leaders asking them to preserve the law.

The law prohibits tax-exempt charitable organizations such as churches from participating directly or indirectly in any political campaign to support or oppose a candidate. If the IRS determines that a group has violated the law, it can revoke its tax-exempt status.

The law doesn’t stop religious groups from weighing in on public policy or organizing in ways that may benefit one side in a campaign.

The bill specifically forbids the IRS from spending money to enforce the law against “a church, or a convention or association of churches,” unless the IRS commissioner signs off on it and notifies Congress.

The bill doesn’t mention other types of non-profit groups, or even synagogues or mosques, said Nick Little of the Center for Inquiry, which promotes secularism.

“All they care about is the Christian groups, and in particular, it will end up as the extreme religious right Christian groups,” Little said. “If this goes through, this would add just another way in which unregulated dark money could be used.”

Religious leaders have been weighing in on political issues for generations, whether it’s the debate over abortion or advocating for the poor. But periodically, the IRS has stepped in when religious leaders explicitly endorse or oppose candidates.

The law is called the Johnson Amendment after former President Lyndon Johnson, who introduced it in 1954 when he was a Democratic senator from Texas. Johnson was upset because a few nonprofit groups attacked him as a communist in a Senate campaign.

The law was signed by a Republican president — Dwight Eisenhower — but Republicans have been attacking it in recent years.

House Republicans have pledged to repeal the law as part of a tax overhaul. President Donald Trump signed an executive order in May discouraging the IRS from enforcing the law.

Rep. Pat Tiberi, R-Ohio, says the law has been enforced unevenly.

“Some churches, including my own, have been very concerned about appearing political in any way shape or form,” Tiberi said. “Churches I went to that were primarily in Democrat areas, that I would go to because I had a Democrat district, the local candidates on the Sunday mornings before the election would be introduced, would speak from the pulpit about the campaign and why the congregation should vote for them.”

The full Appropriations Committee will consider the measure after the July 4th congressional recess.

 

[AEA18]

Might as well remove that whole separation of church and state thing from the Constitution.

 

[AEA18]

The Trump Administration's plan to rescind federal regulation safeguarding drinking water will mean more Flint like disasters says Scott Edwards of Food & Water Watch

 

[dragicon]

Might as well remove that whole separation of church and state thing from the Constitution.

Well, we are a Christian nation!

 

[rolaholic]

@thehill: Manhattan public corruption prosecutor joining special counsel Mueller's Trump-Russia probe https://t.co/Xx40TZocsP https://t.co/TOug2jxQrB

 

[flyeed]

@thehill: Manhattan public corruption prosecutor joining special counsel Mueller's Trump-Russia probe https://t.co/Xx40TZocsP https://t.co/TOug2jxQrB

A lot of people will be on the wrong side of history. That wack side with the loyalists, Benedict Arnold, people who fought against civil rights, etc. All the people who support this fool undermining our country's values, down to the absolute most fundamental one through interfering with our democratic process, with an eternal rival at that, should be forced to wear that badge of shame for the rest of their lives in political discourse.

 

[aepps20]

More good old biblethumping, what could possibly go wrong?
https://www.apnews.com/59b82e28bca6...uld-let-churches-endorse-political-candidates

EXCELLENT NEWS. CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS. My pastor will really cut loose on LIBBIES.