***Official Political Discussion Thread***

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[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

I was pretty sure the "ghetto" comment they replayed 1000x after the debate was gonna sink him with black voters. But apparently he won a higher percentage of the black vote than in any other state.

Nothing about this election makes sense

 

[RustyShackleford]

Last time I've an upset this surprising and this lit, Mick Foley won the WWE belt

The young voters came through like Stone Cold for Bern Gawd

 

[essential1]

-I think I read Drumpf would have to win 70% of white working class voters to win. And I can't see him doing that

-Hillary or Bernie both I think have their own strengths against Little Fingers

Bernie might win the minority vote in the general, but he might not be able to turn them out in large numbers.

Nominating the candidate that is the relative "unpopular" one with minorities would be a interesting experiment for the Dems.

-And Drumpf will have ammo to use against either candidate. Integrity "she is a criminal" attacks with Clinton, pie in the sky "socialist" policies with Sanders.

-It would be kind of weird to see the two parties have to support candidates they don't really want

I can see Drumpt running a campaign, and being competitive, without the establishments support

Bernie doesn't have that luxury. He would need the support of the entire Democratic establishment, including the Clintons, to have a chance

I wouldn't say he's unpopular with minorities... Just think
1. Hillary has more name recognition
2. Unless you're a political junkie, Bernie has 0 before 6 months ago.

Sanders has 53-16-31 for favorable-unfavorable-no opinion or don't know enough among African Americans... Clinton is 82-12-6
Among Hispanic voters 47-7-46... Hillary 71-21-8.

Drumpf will bring out a lot of young voters and Hispanic voters to vote against him.

Whether African Americans come out in high numbers, is up in the air, but even then it's safe to say Democrats will easily get 85% of that vote. But the youth vote turnout advantage from Sanders, would likely wash African American voter turnout advantage for Hillary.

Women will vote Democratic resoundingly. Especially with Drumpf as candidate.


Where I think Sanders has the easiest way to go in a head-to-head with Drumpf is White Males... Drumpf needs 70% to win (I've heard that number as well, don't particularly believe it, unless it's huge voter turnout), he likely doesn't get it against either... BUT, considering how well Sanders does with white working class voters, and how resonate that message is, they probably end up splitting that vote, or at worst case 55-45 Drumpf. Drumpf stands almost zero chance.

 

[RustyShackleford]

When I said unpopular, I meant relative to Clinton

As in, it is interesting that the Dems would not send up the candidate that isn't the favorite amongst their minority base.

The math may look in Bernie's favor but we are still relying on minorities showing up in adequate numbers and hoping Bernie performs well with demographics that usually lend right gives me pause.

 

[essential1]

When I said unpopular, I meant relative to Clinton

As in, it is interesting that the Dems would not send up the candidate that isn't the favorite amongst their minority base.

The math may look in Bernie's favor but we are still relying on minorities showing up in adequate numbers and hoping Bernie performs well with demographics that usually lend right gives me pause.

You would only have to worry about African American voter turnout...

Hispanic turnout will be large... And Trump is doing historically bad. Especially in head to heads against Democrats.

And you could count on Young Voters for Sanders, if African American vote lags.


Also Bernie has been polling better than Hillary among College Educated.. And Hillary wins that handily over Trump... That would spell even better for Bern.


But we still agree, Trump has an uphill battle with both of them

 

[Benny Hinn]

Bernie byke?

Amazing what can happen when the under 40 demo actually go out and vote. We outnumber the washed baby boomers.

#Yearn4Bern

 

[ben roethlisberger]

Hillary was salty she lost out to Obama in 2008.

She has a straight shot now, it's hers to lose. I trust her regime won't turn the US into Brazil 2.0.  :x

Doubt her saltiness was very genuine. But who knows for sure?

Her and Obama play for the same team, receive the same money and are loyalists to the same bourgeoisie (by marxist definition). Those whom truly govern the public most definitely hedge their bets. And she just happened to not be the right fit at the right time back in 08'.

Based on overwhelming public response and the recent mainstream rise of feminism and girl power (one could argue the public response is based on predictive programming that lead to the rise of this propagated feminist movement), Hilary's time is now. Her cronies will make sure of it.

As for America turning into Brasil, I imagine America will continue being the corporate monarchical imperialistic force it has been for, well, forever. I don't know if Brasil fits that description.

Corporate monarchical imperialism haha what an adjective cocktail.

 

[cl-1b]

 

When I said unpopular, I meant relative to Clinton

As in, it is interesting that the Dems would not send up the candidate that isn't the favorite amongst their minority base.

The math may look in Bernie's favor but we are still relying on minorities showing up in adequate numbers and hoping Bernie performs well with demographics that usually lend right gives me pause.

You would only have to worry about African American voter turnout...

Hispanic turnout will be large... And Trump is doing historically bad. Especially in head to heads against Democrats.

And you could count on Young Voters for Sanders, if African American vote lags.


Also Bernie has been polling better than Hillary among College Educated.. And Hillary wins that handily over Trump... That would spell even better for Bern.


But we still agree, Trump has an uphill battle with both of them

For a man who never campaigned for any political position in the USA to catch the lead like he did, Trump shows more promise then any of these career politicians tbh. He generated such a strong foundation and following in such a short period of time its scary actually. I seriously doubt he has an uphill battle simply because he looks like he has the strongest movement behind him and he is bringing in voters from all walks of life. I hate to tell you guys.. but if i were one of those two leftists running right now.. i'd be pretty worried. Its not looking good for you guys 

 

[cl-1b]

The only politician running that will turn this place into socialist brazil would be bernie sanders btw

 

[MVP]

Drumpf is only getting 30-40% support from his own party that's not going to do anything in the general election, especially if the GOP continues as this fractured entity. Not to mention the minority vote is the swing in every election now. And he's getting killed on that front as well.

 

[iDon’tRead]

Would legalizing marijuana and taxing it be a solution instead of raising taxes or cutting money from programs ?

 

[duba169]

I don't know why you guys continue to use math and logic when discussing a trump general run. Lots of you seem nervous even though it should be a lay up for hillary...

 

[deuce king]

Such an important race right now and folks are wasting their time, energy and votes on old man Bernie, smh. It's imperative that the Democrats get together to go against Trump. Hillary has the best chance to beat Trump, not the guy that's knocking on death's door. It's all about winning, and that can't be achieved with Bernie.

 

[rolaholic]

The old "get in line" post

Of all the reasons not to vote for Bern,age and the msm pushed issue "electibility" falls pretty low on the totem pole .

Acting like the other candidates won't be the oldest presidents ever if elected

Any Dem is beating Drumpf btw,the demographics are always gonna work out in their favour but most national polls suggest that it might be a tighter race between Hillary and him instead of Bern due to all her baggage. Drumpf would hammer her hard on the scandals

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

Such an important race right now and folks are wasting their time, energy and votes on old man Bernie, smh. It's imperative that the Democrats get together to go against Trump. Hillary has the best chance to beat Trump, not the guy that's knocking on death's door. It's all about winning, and that can't be achieved with Bernie.

Based on the most recent polls, Hillary doesn't have the best chance to beat Trump...or anybody else in the GOP. So that statement is pretty false.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/pres_general/

 

[rico x hood]

Whole country is going to ****. Once Rubio and Kasich drop out all we'll have left is a liar and chameleon, a socialist, a zealot, and a demagogue. They are all equally terrible.

Another four years of Obama is looking pretty good right now.

 

[rolaholic]

According to her campaign,that's what you'll be getting if Hillary gets elected

 

[rillo561]

Good to read Bernie did his thing last night, went to sleep last night and it was pretty close.

 

[duba169]

http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/07...-support-proves-leftists-are-the-real-bigots/

While the piece is a bit heavy handed, i think it does a good job at showing what liberals really think of diversity.

They are all for diversity... black, gay, trans, muslim, jew, mexican.... unless you don't fall in line and have the same belief system. Then **** you

 

[rico x hood]

According to her campaign,that's what you'll be getting if Hillary gets elected

According to her at the last debate we'll get Bernie Sanders but one step further.

 

[sonoftony]

I was pretty sure the "ghetto" comment they replayed 1000x after the debate was gonna sink him with black voters. But apparently he won a higher percentage of the black vote than in any other state.

Nothing about this election makes sense

The irony about this whole "ghetto" thing is that Bern came from the ghetto too.

 

[gwap]

http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/07...-support-proves-leftists-are-the-real-bigots/

While the piece is a bit heavy handed, i think it does a good job at showing what liberals really think of diversity.

They are all for diversity... black, gay, trans, muslim, jew, mexican.... unless you don't fall in line and have the same belief system. Then **** you

lol... the belief system itself is sexist and homophobic....

If cruz was a christian who supports gay rights and wasn't a radical ideologist then I don't think there would have been any backlash

Obama is a practicing christians too.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/07...-support-proves-leftists-are-the-real-bigots/

While the piece is a bit heavy handed, i think it does a good job at showing what liberals really think of diversity.

They are all for diversity... black, gay, trans, muslim, jew, mexican.... unless you don't fall in line and have the same belief system. Then **** you

What they think of diversity, eh? They're not the ones trying to kill it off like the GOP.

Maybe there is backlash because Jenner is supporting a candidate from a party that has a history of being anti gay, or anti anything relating to sexual freedom short of one man and one woman doing it missionary style with lights off resulting in a birth of a baby 9 months later with zero abortion attempts, regardless of whether the prospects for the baby's future are bright or not.

 

[cl-1b]

just wait until trump wages war on Hillary... The numbers will be like 75/25 trump. Plus if I were Rubio I'd drop out now before he faces severe embarrassment and messes up his opportunity for re-election in the senate.

Ted Cruz tried to pull the Ben Carson Iowa thing on him too [emoji]128514[/emoji]