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Or cutting off their water
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You get called out for spouting lies again and this is your response? Some unrelated propaganda sound bite. Utterly embarrassing.
You're so desperate to lay this solely at the feet of Hamas. While they obviously deserve their share of the blame, by your logic that must mean that this all started when Hamas came to power right? The disproportionate killing of civilians, the illegal seizing of land, the stripping of rights and freedoms in their own land.
Take a look at this graph from the UN and why don't you tell me exactly when Hamas came to power.
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You get called out for spouting lies again and this is your response? Some unrelated propaganda sound bite. Utterly embarrassing.
You're so desperate to lay this solely at the feet of Hamas. While they obviously deserve their share of the blame, by your logic that must mean that this all started when Hamas came to power right? The disproportionate killing of civilians, the illegal seizing of land, the stripping of rights and freedoms in their own land.
Take a look at this graph from the UN and why don't you tell me exactly when Hamas came to power.
did I miss something, can you please quote where he said that only Hamas is to blame?
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The hate is already so built up in some posters in this thread. Reading comprehension is gone.
Unless you flat out say you’re Pro-Palestine or Pro-Hamas, everything else will just be called out.
Unless you flat out say you’re Pro-Palestine or Pro-Hamas, everything else will just be called out.
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They both get off on seeing each others people blown up to smitherings.
Israel wants land by any means and Palestine wants blood no matter the cost.
Israel wants land by any means and Palestine wants blood no matter the cost.
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yah don't think it's this simple.
at this point I really think Hamas wants this to go on forever.
Who needs terrorist organizations in peace time?
I don't actually think the average palestinan on the ground wants "blood no matter the cost"
and right wing Israelis politicians also benefit from having the constant threat to generate support from the populace.
you can look at the polling and see that the settlements are pretty controversial and def don't have support amongst younger Isreali's
so yah I don't think it's as simple as land vs blood.
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People really need to stop making simple hot takes about this situation
At best it dismisses important nuance
At worst, it gives the reactionary forces on either side cover.
At best it dismisses important nuance
At worst, it gives the reactionary forces on either side cover.
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So proud to be me.
From 
to knowing that I called most of this stuff years ago. My Speaker and President are EMERITUS
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my boy Jake wanted to punch someone after hearing that update. These clowns are real life trolls that want the world to burn. There are no both sides to any of this.
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Can someone explain the turn Nancy Mace took? Or is it just a product of being part of the GOP swamp?
She was touted as this amazing centrist, but it seems she's balls deep in the ****ery
She was touted as this amazing centrist, but it seems she's balls deep in the ****ery
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I apologize for not commenting sooner but I have all notifications turned off, I am trying to keep this as one of the few online spaces where things move slowly unlike the VC backed online spaces that insist that you engage with it all of the time.
I was not looking to create a theory of morality of how wars should be conducted. I was mostly just going off of what I was thinking and feeling watching coverage of the events in the Near East.
To clarify, I am not justifying whatever violence that Hamas committed is justified nor do I believe that Israelis who are tortured and raped and kidnaped deserve what happened to them. I would say that culpability does not lie with Hamas, or Israeli people, or the Israeli government, or even the US, it falls on an international system that believes that some people must live at other's expense.
Any society that believes that some people's humanity is worth more than another's, will always be unstable and violent. It is the fount of all violence and threats of violence. Israelis generally live at the expense of Palestinians. What happened at the Israeli-Gazan border was an extreme example of people at one end of the world's value-dispensing spectrum and those at the extreme opposite being placed in close proximity.
Those who's lives matter the most in our international system, have the greatest ability to use social, political, economic, and financial coercion in order to commit atrocities in a way that is fairly unspectacular compared the ancient atrocities of murder, rape, and kidnapping.
War is the act of one entity trying to break the will of another. When one entity can break the opposing entity's will with media friendly, unspectacular ways, it will do so. The other, weaker entity will retaliate in ways that will offend polite, international opinion. This is because polite, international opinion cannot imagine death through media-friendly means but it can imagine being murdered or raped or kidnapped so it condemns what Hamas does but ignores similar horrors that have been unleashed by the West. Making a big distinction between touch and no-touch terror serves the interests of the powerful. And this is currently a more academic discussion for us here in North America but it will become a far more practical discussion in the near future as climate change will cause dozens of Gaza like setups to become established through out the world. When you decide that some people's lives matter a lot, and others do not matter at all and you put them in close proximity and use fences and media-friendly routine terror to control the open air prison, you have turned the civilians who live and are allowed to thrive just outside the prison walls into unwitting prison guards, and they should expect horrible reprisals when the most aggrieved and most radicalized people are able to break out of the open air prison.
In short either we abolish hierarchy or hierarchy will ultimately abolish all of us.
I was not looking to create a theory of morality of how wars should be conducted. I was mostly just going off of what I was thinking and feeling watching coverage of the events in the Near East.
To clarify, I am not justifying whatever violence that Hamas committed is justified nor do I believe that Israelis who are tortured and raped and kidnaped deserve what happened to them. I would say that culpability does not lie with Hamas, or Israeli people, or the Israeli government, or even the US, it falls on an international system that believes that some people must live at other's expense.
Any society that believes that some people's humanity is worth more than another's, will always be unstable and violent. It is the fount of all violence and threats of violence. Israelis generally live at the expense of Palestinians. What happened at the Israeli-Gazan border was an extreme example of people at one end of the world's value-dispensing spectrum and those at the extreme opposite being placed in close proximity.
Those who's lives matter the most in our international system, have the greatest ability to use social, political, economic, and financial coercion in order to commit atrocities in a way that is fairly unspectacular compared the ancient atrocities of murder, rape, and kidnapping.
War is the act of one entity trying to break the will of another. When one entity can break the opposing entity's will with media friendly, unspectacular ways, it will do so. The other, weaker entity will retaliate in ways that will offend polite, international opinion. This is because polite, international opinion cannot imagine death through media-friendly means but it can imagine being murdered or raped or kidnapped so it condemns what Hamas does but ignores similar horrors that have been unleashed by the West. Making a big distinction between touch and no-touch terror serves the interests of the powerful. And this is currently a more academic discussion for us here in North America but it will become a far more practical discussion in the near future as climate change will cause dozens of Gaza like setups to become established through out the world. When you decide that some people's lives matter a lot, and others do not matter at all and you put them in close proximity and use fences and media-friendly routine terror to control the open air prison, you have turned the civilians who live and are allowed to thrive just outside the prison walls into unwitting prison guards, and they should expect horrible reprisals when the most aggrieved and most radicalized people are able to break out of the open air prison.
In short either we abolish hierarchy or hierarchy will ultimately abolish all of us.
Let's see. He called out Israel as not terrorists, just corrupt. He's made multiple posts containing nothing but calling out Hamas language while staying completely silent on his side calling their enemies dogs, beasts, and animals.
Should I go on?
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Can someone explain the turn Nancy Mace took? Or is it just a product of being part of the GOP swamp?
She was touted as this amazing centrist, but it seems she's balls deep in the ****ery
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She was always a deplorable fam. She is typical GOP which is self over everything. She is one of the leading voices to impeach Joey, yet she claims to be pro choice. Yet, she voted for a Republican bill restricting abortion access and said she did it because the Senate would reject it anyway. She built her platform off of believing survivors of sexual assault (she's a survivor herself) yet when confronted with the verifiable allegations against Gym Jordan and what he allowed to happen, she claims she didn't know but he still gets her vote for speaker.Can someone explain the turn Nancy Mace took? Or is it just a product of being part of the GOP swamp?
She was touted as this amazing centrist, but it seems she's balls deep in the ****ery
This is rich coming from a guy that routinely posts outright lies and then refuses to engage further when he's found out and then instead resorts to wild accusations and non related pro Israel propaganda. FOH.
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Congressman George Santos Charged With Conspiracy, Wire Fraud, False Statements, Falsification of Records, Aggravated Identity Theft, and Credit Card Fraud
CENTRAL ISLIP, NY – A 23-count superseding indictment was filed today in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, charging George Anthony Devolder Santos, better known as “George Santos,” the United States Representative for the Third District of New York, with one...
George Santos got hit with a 23 count indictment
Scamtos gotta hop on the "Wire Fraud Tutorial" remix now.
