R.I.P Trayvon

[jerseyjz]

Bao getting picked apart

 

[timbo109]

GZ dads a judge his mama was a judge too

There's no way the man will be convicted

Both his parents worked for the court system he will walk easily

You have to be illiterate to think that's not a factor

wait really? How come this is the first time I'm hearing this? News media must be suppressing this info!!!!

 

[mikejeffjo]

wait really? How come this is the first time I'm hearing this? News media must be suppressing this info!!!!

Either that

or you're going deaf could be wax build up

Get you some cotton balls put some sweet oil on it

Stick'em in both ears for a few days you'll be ii8

 

[extraordinary swag]

they need to get him off the stand already

 

[dabottom305]

wait really? How come this is the first time I'm hearing this? News media must be suppressing this info!!!!

Either that

or you're going deaf could be wax build up

Get you some cotton balls put some sweet oil on it

Stick'em in both ears for a few days you'll be ii8

damn

 

[shoelyesses]

lol dr bao...said you want my notes is my notes and they are my notes are for me, your notes are your notes, no you cannot see or copy my notes....lol

 

[nobody]

This Judge is terribly biased. If Zimmy gets convicted he has alot of grounds for new trial. 

 

[deuce king]

This Judge is terribly biased.

She could be, or maybe just maybe the defense team doesn't have their act together. 

 

[dwalk31]

This Judge is terribly biased. If Zimmy gets convicted he has alot of grounds for new trial. 

I don't see that..

 

[superb]

GZ dads a judge his mama was a judge too

There's no way the man will be convicted

Both his parents worked for the court system he will walk easily

You have to be illiterate to think that's not a factor

for the 51st time his dad was never a judge. Never ever ever

and when GZ is convicted, dont you go hiding under a table because you will be clowned in this same thread so be prepared for shear embrassament and clowning troll

 

[rashi]

This witness was so poorly prepped.

 

[superb]

I kind've think that as well. But the thing about the stand your ground law, it's basically how you interpret what it means. Imo, it's saying that if I'm out hanging and someone attacks me for no reason, then I have the right to fight back and not have to retreat. It's not saying that I can instigate a conflict then use deadly force once I start getting beat. Imo It's basically how the jury interprets the meaning of the law. I know that I can definitely be in TM's situation because if someone is following me late at night, then start chasing after me once I start running, I most likely will attack that person as well.

YES but the thing is the law doesnt state you can stalk someone, chase them down, scare them and when you approach the person they whop you rbutt out of shear fear and you shoot.

That is not self defense.

Self defense if im minding my own business and my life get threatend. GZ was not minding his own biz

That is the whole issue at hand now with this trial. All they are trying to prove that GZ stalked him and caused the issue

You cant go around picking fights then get your butt beat to a pulp and shoot back kill someone and claim self defense..It dont work that way

 

[superb]

wait really? How come this is the first time I'm hearing this? News media must be suppressing this info!!!!

Because it is not true and even GZ dad stated this is not true

 

[mikejeffjo]

for the 51st time his dad was never a judge. Never ever ever

and when GZ is convicted, dont you go hiding under a table because you will be clowned in this same thread so be prepared for shear embrassament and clowning troll

For the 10,000th time both his parents worked for the court system

I don't care if they were judges or janitors

Lame

I want to see the tears on your face when I'm proven right crybaby

Don't worry about me I've never ran from a goofnut and I never will

 

[shady]

quick question...

is there ANY body on George Zimmerman's side?

seems like everybody believes he was wrong ...

There is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claim that Martin confronted him while he was walking back to his vehicle. It will never be proven that Zimmerman confronted Martin or tried to detain him, that is your imagination talking. Zimmerman was not given a police order, the dispatcher simply suggested that he not follow martin, and he agreed and complied. The dispatcher testified on the stand that they are not allowed to give orders for liability reasons.

If Zimmerman was provably the aggressor, this would be a very different case. He could still potentially show that he acted in justified self defense under Florida law, but his burden would be harder to meet. That isn't the case here though, there is no significant evidence that Zimmerman was the aggressor, and Zimmerman claims Martin was the aggressor, and the injuries, location and timing of the confrontation, seem to support his story.

According to the last person to speak to Martin, he was already back at his house, which, when considering the location of the struggle, would mean he had to double back to confront Zimmerman.

There's nothing to contradict Zimmerman's story that he walked straight at the T-intersection and then back towards his car. You might not believe him, but there isn't any evidence to contradict it.

The kicker is that even if Zimmerman had followed Martin, wanted to confront Martin, and actually confronted him, that is not illegal. Poor judgement perhaps, but not illegal. What is illegal is physically assaulting someone, and all the evidence points to Zimmerman being assaulted by Martin. Nothing points to the contrary.

 

[dwalk31]

for the 51st time his dad was never a judge. Never ever ever

and when GZ is convicted, dont you go hiding under a table because you will be clowned in this same thread so be prepared for shear embrassament and clowning troll

False... GZ's dad is a retired judge. Not that it matters... but your statement is in fact false. His dad served as a full time magistrate for the Supreme Court of Virginia from 2000-2006. Not sure what or where you are getting your info from

 

[va757va]

i REALLY wished some threads came with a mandatory age limit...

dudes really in here tryna get points for being right and moral victories..  who cares man...

nters are the most argumentative dudes ever..

 

[letsgetit22]

YES but the thing is the law doesnt state you can stalk someone, chase them down, scare them and when you approach the person they whop you rbutt out of shear fear and you shoot.

That is not self defense.

Self defense if im minding my own business and my life get threatend. GZ was not minding his own biz

That is the whole issue at hand now with this trial. All they are trying to prove that GZ stalked him and caused the issue

You cant go around picking fights then get your butt beat to a pulp and shoot back kill someone and claim self defense..It dont work that way

I agree... But the argument that people are making is that the law doesn't say that you can't do that.

 

[Mound Raised]

Can someone explain what point West is trying to make

 

[doyung9]

There is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claim that Martin confronted him while he was walking back to his vehicle. It will never be proven that Zimmerman confronted Martin or tried to detain him, that is your imagination talking. Zimmerman was not given a police order, the dispatcher simply suggested that he not follow martin, and he agreed and complied. The dispatcher testified on the stand that they are not allowed to give orders for liability reasons.
If Zimmerman was provably the aggressor, this would be a very different case. He could still potentially show that he acted in justified self defense under Florida law, but his burden would be harder to meet. That isn't the case here though, there is no significant evidence that Zimmerman was the aggressor, and Zimmerman claims Martin was the aggressor, and the injuries, location and timing of the confrontation, seem to support his story.

According to the last person to speak to Martin, he was already back at his house, which, when considering the location of the struggle, would mean he had to double back to confront Zimmerman.
There's nothing to contradict Zimmerman's story that he walked straight at the T-intersection and then back towards his car. You might not believe him, but there isn't any evidence to contradict it.
The kicker is that even if Zimmerman had followed Martin, wanted to confront Martin, and actually confronted him, that is not illegal. Poor judgement perhaps, but not illegal. What is illegal is physically assaulting someone, and all the evidence points to Zimmerman being assaulted by Martin. Nothing points to the contrary.

Thank you, for speaking some pretty basic foundation of why this case is going the way it's going.

I really don't understand, as a minority myself, how some of you still are trying to make this a race thing. There's zero, ZERO proof, of anything related to race. America, right?

 

[dwalk31]

Thank you, for speaking some pretty basic foundation of why this case is going the way it's going.

I really don't understand, as a minority myself, how some of you still are trying to make this a race thing. There's zero, ZERO proof, of anything related to race. America, right?

He followed him and considered him a suspect because he was black (If not please explain why he did). There is nothing suspicious about walking outside in the rain to any normal individual. People do it all the time... If you believe he would have reacted the same way to a white man in a suit or polo then you are delusional.

EDIT: In the real world common sense does not go outside of the window just because there isn't any "proof". It's clear that Zimmerman sized up Trayvon and due to his appearance felt he was a "punk" and a "suspect" It is clear he appeared to Zimmerman as a black male with a hoodie. The implications are very clear.

 

[letsgetit22]

Thank you, for speaking some pretty basic foundation of why this case is going the way it's going.

I really don't understand, as a minority myself, how some of you still are trying to make this a race thing. There's zero, ZERO proof, of anything related to race. America, right?

Umm, the location where the confrontation happened contradicts GZ story that he was walking back to his car.

 

[superb]

False... GZ's dad is a retired judge. Not that it matters... but your statement is in fact false. His dad served as a full time magistrate for the Supreme Court of Virginia from 2000-2006. Not sure what or where you are getting your info from

hahahah naw your wrong . A magistrate is NOT a judge nor do they have judical powers and also his dad only work that low level spot from 2001-2006.. You really think he have connects, get out of here

 

[lyonbc1]

^^there CLEARLY is if you don't see that you're blind or just in denial. If a black neighborhood watchman killed a white kid they would've been charged immediately. There was also the case of the woman who was using Stand your ground who fired a warning shot and is in prison for 20 yrs. there are probably several others to, to deny race is playing a role is straight up laughable

 

[doyung9]

He followed him and considered him a suspect because he was black (If not please explain why he did). There is nothing suspicious about walking outside in the rain to any normal individual. People do it all the time... If you believe he would have reacted the same way to a white man in a suit or polo then you are delusional.

EDIT: In the real world common sense does not go outside of the window just because there isn't any "proof". It's clear that Zimmerman sized up Trayvon and due to his appearance felt he was a "punk" and a "suspect" It is clear he appeared to Zimmerman as a black male with a hoodie. The implications are very clear.

I'm not going to go back and forth with you or anyone else, because I frankly don't have the time, but a few things.

1. You cannot say with any certainty that his skin color had anything to do with this. There is a reason banks and other establishments ask for hat, sunglasses, and HOODS be removed before entering. Hooded pullovers, when pulled over your head, offer significant cover from recognition. Unlike you, I'm not going to assume I know what George Zimmerman would have done to a "white man in a suit" (funny how quick some people are to throw that term out there) or in a polo.

2. You're creating most of these "implications". "Punk" does not mean black. From what he said, NOT WHAT YOU THINK HE SAID OR THINK HE MEANT BY WHAT HE SAID, punk is referring to who always gets away in that neighborhood, which by PROVEN CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION, can only be traced back to the burglars who'd been breaking in that neighborhood.

3. You're over here reaching, like most people, because deep down inside, anytime something happens to someone "black", it's gotta be racism right? Can't be anything else. Meanwhile, YOU'RE BEING EXTREMELY RACIST AND PRESUMPTUOUS by convincing yourself of facts about this case that are merely your theories. And why?

Because just like the idiot I spoke to yesterday who told me "life is about assuming things in life", in regards to this same topic, YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE ARE BLINDING YOU TO WHAT'S ON PAPER.