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You can't be shocked that people will discuss what role islam had in an attack happening when the group is literally called the islamic state.
Simultaneous terrorist attacks around Paris...Vol. Here we go again.Update 07/14/16 p42: Nice terror
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Lets see how many innocent Syrians France kills with these airstrikes
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People bringing up Christianity in all of this remind me of the #AllLivesMatter crew.
When in doubt, deflect.
When in doubt, deflect.
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If the nation of Islam is to blame so what?
When the Spaniard "discovered" the new World, the committee genocide. Not until their religion started to get threaten did they stop and then started with procreating with the local indigenous people in order to convert them into their religious faith.
They were offered land and royalties if they procreate with the locals. In addition a lot of the indigenous were baptized on the same page in order to convert them into the religion. The name of the same for example Jose Maria Milagro's etc was given to the indigenous person that was getting baptized on that specific date.
No years later we can oversee all that and call ourselves civilized. However you still got Indians living in Reservations where nobody wants to live.
When the Spaniard "discovered" the new World, the committee genocide. Not until their religion started to get threaten did they stop and then started with procreating with the local indigenous people in order to convert them into their religious faith.
They were offered land and royalties if they procreate with the locals. In addition a lot of the indigenous were baptized on the same page in order to convert them into the religion. The name of the same for example Jose Maria Milagro's etc was given to the indigenous person that was getting baptized on that specific date.
No years later we can oversee all that and call ourselves civilized. However you still got Indians living in Reservations where nobody wants to live.
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but only an idiot would think this way. Just cause ISIS adopted a name it shouldn't mean they are directly affiliated with the religion. Especially since they are murdering Muslims that don't share their beliefs. In certain that there are thousands of followers following simply out of fear.
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"a problem" not "the problem", there are a bunch of problems surrounding this topic. I agree 100% that islamophobia is a serious problem and people need to be educated on that front. however in order to counter these bigots people are saying that islam is free from blame which is also false.
it is very much a religion problem however, brining up hypotheticals and historical events where christians did things just as bad does not and should not take away from what these guys did under the religion of islam
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the thing is, yes bad people will always find justification however not everyone that joins ISIS is naturally a bad personOk we're good
You're right...bad people will always find a justification to carry out their misdeeds and some people happen to use perverse interpretations of faith
ISIS uses religion as a way to convince people to join them, a lot of ISIS minions are fighting because they believe they are doing the right thing in the eyes of their god not because they naturally want to do evil.
the top dogs may just be bad people who will find justification for their acts but its their use of the most popular religion in their region that allows them to convince so many people to join them in their terrible acts.
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why not? We are not civilized. We are still shaming people because of race color religion physical appearance sexual preference the list goes on. Just because Christianity which I remind you wasn't the only religion to do the same thing the Islamic state is doing now but it was in the past should not be brought up? How hypocritical ...
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People bringing up Christianity in all of this remind me of the #AllLivesMatter crew.
When in doubt, deflect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_colonialism
The European invasion of Africa was spearheaded by missionaries. They would come in, build churches and schools, and convert the local people by convincing them to abandon their own beliefs. Many people didn't want to, but the soft power of Christianity was backed by the very real power of European armies. In those schools, the local kids were often forbidden to speak their own languages, they were taught that their culture was evil, and that for their own good, they should adopt the Christian faith and the colonizer's culture. Those who followed religious beliefs considered occult by the church were hunted down, jailed, or even killed.
Because the colonists had successfully conveyed to the native populations the belief that their superiority was a result of their belief in the Christian god, many locals adopted the religion at the expense of their own cultures. It took WWII and the participation of African troops on the European front lines to destroy the idea of the invincible white man: for many Africans, the realization that white people could fear death, bleed, and cry just like them was an instrumental factor in delegitimizing the idea of white religious superiority and pushing for the independence movements that swept the continent between 1945 and the 1960s.
These are events that my great-grandparents and grandparents lived through. We don't have to go too far back in time to find examples of Christianity being used as a tool of conquest.
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its not hypocritical when people not bringing it up also recognise that other religions can be just as damaging to the world. But when we are talking about this attack, and the causes of this attack something a bunch of christians did 300 years ago doesnt add anything to the conversation.
its the same logic as people who go to threads about racial hate crimes and say why blame white people, black people kill eachother!
all it does is distract from the actual conversation
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no one is generalizing anything here
if this was a topic on the KKK I would be talking about how christianity is a cause for all the terrible things they have done.
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And incidentally, the French were notorious for this. Particularly in west africa and the Maghreb of north africa. That's why the largest population of french speakers is actually in Africa.
The French have a lot of blood on their hands. They systematically removed legitimate governments and installed puppets in their former colonies. Read up on dudes like Thomas sankara, patrice lumumba etc
The violence they inflicted on others hits home and now they want to cry foul. What goes around comes around
The French have a lot of blood on their hands. They systematically removed legitimate governments and installed puppets in their former colonies. Read up on dudes like Thomas sankara, patrice lumumba etc
The violence they inflicted on others hits home and now they want to cry foul. What goes around comes around
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Thread is taking an irrelevant turn. RIP to the innocent victims of this senseless attack.
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I need to get off this planet. I can't be here anymore. 
Paris is in my prayers every night.
Paris is in my prayers every night.
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Bin Laden came from a very wealthy family. No suppression there.
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what i've been hearing everywhere over here
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There was a video posted pretty much confirming this
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most of the his followers come from terrible lives where he is offering them their "only" chance of a fulfilling life
suppression is a huge factor for religious adoption
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So what's the next step for France besides retaliating?
And what's this talk of the US taking in Syrian refugees?
And what's this talk of the US taking in Syrian refugees?
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Barry said he would a while back
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interesting
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So does the Saudi royal family. Doesn't stop them from funding them and finding mutual interest.