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Pardon me, but this thread is going to go a little bit of everywhere in terms of comic book movies. I apologize in advance if go off on a tangent and digress. I will also try and throw in some pics for NT's who see a block of writing and hit the back button.
Side Note* - Yes I am that guy who annually posts a Marvel Vs. DC Thread using the Microheroez
I am an avid collector and have been a fan of both Marvel and DC comics for quite some time now. What really inspired me to start this thread was the discussion of whether the Avengers movie will be able to reach Avatar status at the box office or even surpass it. I've read many arguments supporting this notion and others claiming that it's just not likely.
Argument For:
The hype around the Avengers movie is nothing like we've seen before in terms of the way each movie serves as an episodic showcase of each member. This formula of having each hero have their own stand alone film is unprecedented. Captain America, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man/2, and Thor were created to introduce the world to these characters. Each one of these movies has performed well at the box office with Iron Man leading the way with over 300 mil. Who's to say this can't top Avatar numbers when you throw all of these dynamic actors in the mix. We hope this isn't X3 where they just have too much going on and the characters are just mashed together. This movie is still very far from debuting and already they give us a teaser. Almost a year in advance.
Argument against: The most logical argument I've read about the Avengers not being able to top Avatar is the fact that the fans overlap. Every fan who went to see Captain America is probably the same fan who went to watch the other movies as well. With this in mind, do the comic geeks of the world really have enough pull to make Avengers the all time draw?
Now... I will say a few things about the casting/continuity of these movies.. Although Marvel has tried to keep this cinematic universe intact, there have been some mishaps. Yes, the switch from Terrence Howard to Don Cheadle was annoying but most people were able to look past that just because War Machine is more of a complementary hero. But the Hulk? Cmon Marvel.. It's pretty clear that losing Norton for the Avengers was a huge smack in the face. He had a following based merely on his name. Expecting the fans to Men in Black their memory and see Ruffalo in the Avengers assuming the responsibility of the Jade Giant is undermiming and quite frankly insulting. But the show must go on. Couldn't have chosen a better actor for Iron Man. RDJ IS TONY STARK. I also believed in Chris Hemms as Thor. Chris Evans as Captain America I was a little ehhhhh about it when first hearing the news. I was afraid of the Ryan Reynolds effect. I didn't want Chris Evans being his usual jokster self cracking one liners ala the Human Torch character. Cap was different and I'm so grateful that Evan's respected Cap for Cap.
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Now on to DC... I could fill 10 pages of what I think about Warner Brother's and their creative team but I'll condense it. Like I had previously stated, The Avenger's movie got me thinking. I'm 24 years old now. What other movies in the comic universe will I get the privelege to watch that will make a run at the ALL TIME BOX OFFICE RECORD. Like seriously? What could happen that would make me die a happy man.... and it came to me. I believe it should go in this order... (In a perfect world)
AVENGERS # 1 movie of all time at the box office.. surpasses Avatar
WORLD'S FINEST (Bats/Supes) movie tops Avengers
AVENGERS 2 ... tops World's Finest
JUSTICE LEAGUE .. tops AVENGERS 2 (Hopefully DC will get their $!@ together and when they do, I see the JL topping Avengers 2. This would quintessentially be World's Finest 2 but after a couple of stand alone movies ala aquaman, Green Lantern, Flash, WW.. they'll epically form this)
You guys know what I'm gettin at right? ..
MARVEL VS. DC (AVENGERS vs. JUSTICE LEAGUE) However you want to spin it. If this epic crossover happens on the big screen I will die a happy man. Both Marvel and DC can surely put their ego's aside to rank in the TOP GROSSING MOVIE OF ALL TIME RIGHT??
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I leave you guys with this Note on how DC should have went about the Justice League.
We have our Batman and that's BALE. Screw Nolan and his selfishness trying to keep Batman in a world of his own. Henry Cavill is our Man of Steel. Bradley Cooper WAS our Green Lantern. I mean.. did you watch Limitless? His swagg alone could have pulled off Hal Jordan the way it was intended. RYAN REYNOLDS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR FLASH. WW and AQUAMAN are a diff story.. If both were casted right.. the Justice League movie could have been epic.. That's all folks.
PS. Share your thoughts. These are my opinions.
Why does it say I'm a registered User and not a registered member? -.-
~GQute
Side Note* - Yes I am that guy who annually posts a Marvel Vs. DC Thread using the Microheroez
I am an avid collector and have been a fan of both Marvel and DC comics for quite some time now. What really inspired me to start this thread was the discussion of whether the Avengers movie will be able to reach Avatar status at the box office or even surpass it. I've read many arguments supporting this notion and others claiming that it's just not likely.
Argument For:
The hype around the Avengers movie is nothing like we've seen before in terms of the way each movie serves as an episodic showcase of each member. This formula of having each hero have their own stand alone film is unprecedented. Captain America, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man/2, and Thor were created to introduce the world to these characters. Each one of these movies has performed well at the box office with Iron Man leading the way with over 300 mil. Who's to say this can't top Avatar numbers when you throw all of these dynamic actors in the mix. We hope this isn't X3 where they just have too much going on and the characters are just mashed together. This movie is still very far from debuting and already they give us a teaser. Almost a year in advance.
Argument against: The most logical argument I've read about the Avengers not being able to top Avatar is the fact that the fans overlap. Every fan who went to see Captain America is probably the same fan who went to watch the other movies as well. With this in mind, do the comic geeks of the world really have enough pull to make Avengers the all time draw?
Now... I will say a few things about the casting/continuity of these movies.. Although Marvel has tried to keep this cinematic universe intact, there have been some mishaps. Yes, the switch from Terrence Howard to Don Cheadle was annoying but most people were able to look past that just because War Machine is more of a complementary hero. But the Hulk? Cmon Marvel.. It's pretty clear that losing Norton for the Avengers was a huge smack in the face. He had a following based merely on his name. Expecting the fans to Men in Black their memory and see Ruffalo in the Avengers assuming the responsibility of the Jade Giant is undermiming and quite frankly insulting. But the show must go on. Couldn't have chosen a better actor for Iron Man. RDJ IS TONY STARK. I also believed in Chris Hemms as Thor. Chris Evans as Captain America I was a little ehhhhh about it when first hearing the news. I was afraid of the Ryan Reynolds effect. I didn't want Chris Evans being his usual jokster self cracking one liners ala the Human Torch character. Cap was different and I'm so grateful that Evan's respected Cap for Cap.
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Now on to DC... I could fill 10 pages of what I think about Warner Brother's and their creative team but I'll condense it. Like I had previously stated, The Avenger's movie got me thinking. I'm 24 years old now. What other movies in the comic universe will I get the privelege to watch that will make a run at the ALL TIME BOX OFFICE RECORD. Like seriously? What could happen that would make me die a happy man.... and it came to me. I believe it should go in this order... (In a perfect world)
AVENGERS # 1 movie of all time at the box office.. surpasses Avatar
WORLD'S FINEST (Bats/Supes) movie tops Avengers
AVENGERS 2 ... tops World's Finest
JUSTICE LEAGUE .. tops AVENGERS 2 (Hopefully DC will get their $!@ together and when they do, I see the JL topping Avengers 2. This would quintessentially be World's Finest 2 but after a couple of stand alone movies ala aquaman, Green Lantern, Flash, WW.. they'll epically form this)
You guys know what I'm gettin at right? ..
MARVEL VS. DC (AVENGERS vs. JUSTICE LEAGUE) However you want to spin it. If this epic crossover happens on the big screen I will die a happy man. Both Marvel and DC can surely put their ego's aside to rank in the TOP GROSSING MOVIE OF ALL TIME RIGHT??
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I leave you guys with this Note on how DC should have went about the Justice League.
We have our Batman and that's BALE. Screw Nolan and his selfishness trying to keep Batman in a world of his own. Henry Cavill is our Man of Steel. Bradley Cooper WAS our Green Lantern. I mean.. did you watch Limitless? His swagg alone could have pulled off Hal Jordan the way it was intended. RYAN REYNOLDS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR FLASH. WW and AQUAMAN are a diff story.. If both were casted right.. the Justice League movie could have been epic.. That's all folks.
PS. Share your thoughts. These are my opinions.
Why does it say I'm a registered User and not a registered member? -.-
~GQute