The NBA Draft Thread

[ill steelo]

How yall feel bout Monk? ...to boy can get buckets but can he/is he gon do anything else?

Yup that's the big question mark with him.

82% from the line, 40% from three, so that jumper is elite, but my guy does absolutely nothing else

He's gonna provide gravity even when he's missing which is nice, but in terms of actual tangible production outside of that, I don't know.

 

[buc em]

but the thing is shooting is the most important skill.

ft% is a generally more reliable indicator than 3p% for future shooting.


Josh shoots the ball way in front of his body with a weird wind up, sometimes on the way down, varying release points, horrible misses, shot terribly from everywhere except from the low sample 3PA. If that's not a broken jumper, what is?



I think if you are in the top 3 you have to go for upside, and Josh Jackson could maybe be Andre Iguadala, which would be a great outcome but not quite good enough for a top 3 pick.

4.9 free throw attempts per game isn't a reliable indicator of anything IMO...if he was shooting 10 a game and only hitting 5 of them then sure I'd have my worries, but I need more proof. We'll see how he shoots in workouts. If his shot is as broke as you think it is and he doesn't shoot well in workouts then we won't be picking him. Colangelo said himself this year they may be looking at fit moreso than in previous drafts because of us finally seeing what we have in Embiid and also having Simmons as one of the building blocks.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Isn't 5 FTA a lot in colleg basketball?

Fultz was at 6, fox 6, DSJ 6

 

[B Sox]

Jimmy Butler has been a pretty average shooter for his career and is an All-NBA player. I'm not saying that Jackson is going to be the same, but that is sort of the blueprint. Jackson has similar all around tools and has that dog in him. I still stand by him being the 3rd potential star of this draft along with Fultz and Fox.

 

[ill steelo]

5 free throws in 30 mins is a decent amount.

I remember having a 10/17 game, several other games where he was around 50-60% on decent volume.

The shot is broken man

 

[wavycrocket]

buc em wilding

Talking bout a college player shooting 10ftas a game

 

[junglejim]

Isn't 5 FTA a lot in colleg basketball?

Fultz was at 6, fox 6, DSJ 6

It is a fair amount.

 

[buc em]

Nah chill I'm not saying he should have shot that many in college I'm just saying I gotta see a larger sample size of his free throw shooting than barely even 5 per game to feel that his shot is broke beyond fixing like OKB is trying to say

 

[mgrand15]

Jimmy Butler has been a pretty average shooter for his career and is an All-NBA player. I'm not saying that Jackson is going to be the same, but that is sort of the blueprint. Jackson has similar all around tools and has that dog in him. I still stand by him being the 3rd potential star of this draft along with Fultz and Fox.

This. Shooting is great and it makes life easier but there's plenty of stars and really good players that are bad to average shooters.

If you can't shoot, you can't play All-NBA Giannis would like a word with you

 

[dacomeup]

Y'all expecting Buc Em to be rational about Wiggins? Really?

 

[ValarMorghulis]

When are we going to get the Mock Draft popping?

All these hot takes gotta amount to something.

I'll take the Phoenix Suns.

 

[B Sox]

This. Shooting is great and it makes life easier but there's plenty of stars and really good players that are bad to average shooters.

If you can't shoot, you can't play All-NBA Giannis would like a word with you

Giannis isn't the greatest example because of how much of a freak of nature he is. But yeah, Jackson doesn't even need to be an above average shooter, IMO, to be a stud.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

You NOT gon convince that man that his boy aint playing PG, he not having it

I mean if we were drafting fultz sure. Not zo tho. There's just nothing to support that

 

[junglejim]

I'm interested to see what the Sixers do with their pick.  Are they going to pick a PG at 3 with Simmons potentially playing point forward?

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Trade down and get Monk fits with Simmons....

Simmons point forward and ball responsibility that can let Monk cook off the 1st or 2nd pass.

Monk is PERFECT for them.

 

[stillin729]

I'm interested to see what the Sixers do with their pick.  Are they going to pick a PG at 3 with Simmons potentially playing point forward?

trade up and take Fultz

say put and take Jackson

trade back and take Monk

these are the 3 scenarios I see happening with the Sixers but I would take Fox at #3 in a heartbeat

 

[B Sox]

trade up and take Fultz

What exactly do you think you would need to do to trade up? Boston would want at the very least, #3, Saric, 2018 Lakers pick. Probably more.

 

[buc em]

trade up and take Fultz

say put and take Jackson

trade back and take Monk

these are the 3 scenarios I see happening with the Sixers but I would take Fox at #3 in a heartbeat

Basically this

 

[IATT]

Bill Simmons on his last 2 pods, threw out the sixers trading up to 1..


For the sixers fans, what would y'all realistically be willing to give up in that scenario?

 

[buc em]

What exactly do you think you would need to do to trade up? Boston would want at the very least, #3, Saric, 2018 Lakers pick. Probably more.

So you basically want two top 3 picks and the best rookie in the league this past year besides Embiid.......yeah that's not happening

 

[stillin729]

What exactly do you think you would need to do to trade up? Boston would want at the very least, #3, Saric, 2018 Lakers pick. Probably more.

I know Ainge is going to want a haul

my guess is Dario plus #3 and at least one of the Lakers or Kings unprotected picks plus one of the Sixers 1st rounders

I personally just want to stay put at #3 or trade back but I think they really like Fultz

 

[IATT]

3, saris and lakers or kings pick seems like a lot

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

What exactly do you think you would need to do to trade up? Boston would want at the very least, #3, Saric, 2018 Lakers pick. Probably more.

That's definitely what ainge would ask for

I just remembered something. A while back I saw a list somewhere of all the best shooting big men to come out of college which of course Lauri was near the top. Literally all the guys on the list were trash, names you wouldn't even recognize. That just sealed why I hate makonnen

 

[buc em]

Markelle Fultz is not worth Dario, Josh Jackson and Doncic/Bamba/Ayton/Porter.

 

[stillin729]

3, saris and lakers or kings pick seems like a lot

I agree, I would prefer just to stay at #3

but the Sixers have a lot of assets to do things with