⚽️The Footy Thread: German Super Cup, International Champions Cup, Copa Libertadores

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No one is discrediting what Salah did for Pool, but at the end of the day he didn’t win the EPL, and he was a non factor in the CL final (albeit not his fault).

Modric won the CL for a 3rd consecutive year and captained his NT to a WC final. Arguably the weakest team to ever reach a WC final.

Griezzman won the Europa League and was prominant in the WC win, Mbappe was pivotal in his NT and PSG success aswrll,

How is Salah more deserving of The Best than any one of those 3?
 
BTW, my posts weren’t an indictment on the greatness that is Messi, but pointed at the ineptitude of Barca & the afa.
 
No one is discrediting what Salah did for Pool, but at the end of the day he didn’t win the EPL, and he was a non factor in the CL final (albeit not his fault).

Modric won the CL for a 3rd consecutive year and captained his NT to a WC final. Arguably the weakest team to ever reach a WC final.

Griezzman won the Europa League and was prominant in the WC win, Mbappe was pivotal in his NT and PSG success aswrll,

How is Salah more deserving of The Best than any one of those 3?
Obviously stats never tell the whole story, but here they are-

Salah

EPL (Team placed 4th)- 36 games, 32 goals, 10 assists.
UCL (Team lost in Final)- 12 games, 10 goals, 4 assists.
WC (Team didn't advance out of group)- 2 games, 2 goals, 0 assists. No one else scored in any game for Egypt.

Modric
La Liga (Team placed 3rd)- 26 games, 1 goal, 6 assists.
UCL (Team won Final)- 11 games, 1 goal, 1 assist.
WC (Team lost in Final)- 7 games, 2 goals, 1 assist.

Griezmann
La Liga (Team placed 2nd)- 32 games, 19 goals, 9 assists.
UCL (Team didn't advance out of group)- 6 games, 2 goals, 2 assists.
WC (Team won Final)- 7 games, 4 goals, 2 assists.

Mbappe
Ligue 1 (Team placed 1st)- 28 games, 13 goals, 8 assists.
UCL (Team lost in round of 16)- 8 games, 4 goals, 3 assists.
WC (Team won Final)- 7 games, 4 goals, 0 assists.

Credit to France for having a stacked team and winning it all, and Griezmann and Mbappe for certainly being a big part of that. If you want to say they are more deserving than Salah based on WC, go ahead I guess. You're basically directly faulting Salah for playing for Egypt though. As far as club play goes, neither are close to being on Salah's level.

The stats aren't there for Luka, but he's definitely the orchestrator of RM who won the UCL as well as his country that made the WC final. Engine that runs the team. He has a much better case than the other 2 do against Salah.
 
By your logic Messi deserves to be there before Mo, has more goals/assists/take ons than ANYONE else...

And unfortunately we don’t pick where we are born to play in NTs, can you also discredit CR7 for having to play with perennial trash Portugal? No.

At the end of the day the Trophy is for “The Best” Player but we’d be fools to believe that team accomplishments dont weigh heavily on these votes, and sadly Salah won NOTHING this season.

If Salah had won the UCL i might tell you he’d be a deserved candidate for the award, but he didnt.
 
By your logic Messi deserves to be there before Mo, has more goals/assists/take ons than ANYONE else...

And unfortunately we don’t pick where we are born to play in NTs, can you also discredit CR7 for having to play with perennial trash Portugal? No.

At the end of the day the Trophy is for “The Best” Player but we’d be fools to believe that team accomplishments dont weigh heavily on these votes, and sadly Salah won NOTHING this season.

If Salah had won the UCL i might tell you he’d be a deserved candidate for the award, but he didnt.
Again, I'm not sure why Messi isn't there.

Lmao at comparing "Perennial Trash" Portugal, who won Euro 2016, to Egypt.

Salah was a better player than Griezmann and Mbappe by any measurement. Atletico and PSG were both trash in Champions League. All they have going for them in this argument is what their stacked WC team was able to accomplish.
 


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Griezmann did also win the Europa League, it's not the CL but I'd imagine that still holds some weight.

Marchisio to Zenit is surprising as well. I was not expecting that.
 
By your logic Messi deserves to be there before Mo, has more goals/assists/take ons than ANYONE else...

And unfortunately we don’t pick where we are born to play in NTs, can you also discredit CR7 for having to play with perennial trash Portugal? No.

At the end of the day the Trophy is for “The Best” Player but we’d be fools to believe that team accomplishments dont weigh heavily on these votes, and sadly Salah won NOTHING this season.

If Salah had won the UCL i might tell you he’d be a deserved candidate for the award, but he didnt.

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That "report" is coming from calciomercato that's about as reliable as the enquirer... :rolleyes

It’s not the first time Monchi has been linked to Barca. So I guess where there is smoke there is fire huh?

And with United desperately needing a SD I can see why Mochi’s name is popping up. Personally I’d rather him go to United.

I will say that it would be interesting to see Monchi with a war chest the size or United.
 
He just got there. Monchi is locked into a contract for whatever amount of time the deal calls for. If the rumor were true, Roma would obviously want considerable financial considerations & rightfully so. I don't think there is much substance to the report. He resisted overtures from several clubs for years while at Sevilla including from Barca.
 
Respek the young boy



simple rotating that valverde failed to execute
last match he's taken off busquets, raki and umtiti...we'll see if he's learned anything from his mistakes last year.

im gonna need to see messi sit his *** down sometimes too
 
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Lopetegui and I know Flo Flo took offense :lol:



For those interested in the full Messi interview (he doesn’t do many) video below, it’s always intriguing to hear him talk because he’s so introverted. One thing we can put to bed is Messi absolutely knows Catalan, even if he only speaks in Castellano (Spanish), cause I can barely understand a sentence that lady is saying :lol

 
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