2022 NBA Offseason Thread: Preseason kicks off; Things are fine in Los Angeles, Draymond beats the charges

[DLF]

If KD is really serious about his trade request (assume he is)- his trade value only decreases as time goes on.

Small or an obvious big injury. Less motivation and downgrade in play being misunderstood as Father Time catching up to him. More toxicity from him since he’s emotional etc. all these things will decrease is value. Not to mention you get him early in summer to shape your roster around missing pieces. All these things are the reason why it’s absolutely foolish to think nets should just bring him back to wait for a godfather offer. I get waiting weeks but to think they should wait til March or next summer is dumb.

Teams trading superstars never win the trade on paper. Nets gotta realize that. It’s just damage control right now.

 

[wavycrocket]

AD when healthy really is one of the top 5-10 players in the league. The Bubble invitational isn’t won without him.

But of course, people naturally forgot about that. So I understand it.

 

[sohi 23]

Nice one but the public opinion shifting on AD is only due to his health. Which is justifiable. I can’t argue too much he just needs to play.

 

[wavycrocket]

Nice one but the public opinion shifting on AD is only due to his health. Which is justifiable. I can’t argue too much he just needs to play.

AD rushed back form an injury, and played thru it….and STILL was called “soft” by a certain segment of fans.

I remember when Bosh was called “soft” too. Seemed to happen in Miami. Dudes were calling him “Christina”. Similar certain segment of fans.

While he was incredible as a 3rd option, and really sacrificed to help his team win. But alas

 

[pmatic]

 

[earldagoat]

 

[storm2006]

*Relevant*


Quinn Buckner, Magic, KC Jones, Jordan, Clyde Lovellette, Jerry Lucas and Bill Russell were the others.

 

[HIM]

Quinn Buckner

He told one of my favorite Larry Legend stories.



Before Mamba Mentality, there was Bird Behavior.

 

[dacomeup]

Just watched this on NBA Today . It’s such an absurd take that lets us know that we’re in the dead of the summer

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I think people are just disappointed a bit by AD's career and it's causing them to underrate him.

same dynamic happens with Shaq.

 

[akajae]

AD rushed back form an injury, and played thru it….and STILL was called “soft” by a certain segment of fans.

I remember when Bosh was called “soft” too. Seemed to happen in Miami. Dudes were calling him “Christina”. Similar certain segment of fans.

While he was incredible as a 3rd option, and really sacrificed to help his team win. But alas

lol

KD gave Steve back to back championships and his achilles and the Steve-hive still ran him off.

winning back to back FMVPs over their golden child was too much for them to stomach lol

 

[storm2006]

He told one of my favorite Larry Legend stories.



Before Mamba Mentality, there was Bird Behavior.

Damn, great story. His hangover comment made think about it and one thing I find really interesting is the shift around how player partying is portrayed in this era. The way the stories have been told, Jordan was out there more than James Harden but I guess he actually won and there were not cameras around (except for some legendary pics/gifs) so it was fine

But all the stories like the Flu Game being a hangover, Jordan taking limos from NYC to AC and drinking all night then going to the Garden the next day and beasting, drinking 18+ beers while playing multiple rounds of golfs on game day, going on days long benders while making a playoff push, etc….they just don’t happen anymore or we don’t hear about them which is somewhat hard to believe.

Bron trying to bring it back with his Lobos satchel, though

 

[wavycrocket]

lol

KD gave Steve back to back championships and his achilles and the Steve-hive still ran him off.

winning back to back FMVPs over their golden child was too much for them to stomach lol

You sat back, typed that..and hit send…thinking you were doing it

“Steve” “No Finals mvp” talk does not hit the same in 2022.

Do better. Be original. Try harder.

 

[amitt5504]

Damn, great story. His hangover comment made think about it and one thing I find really interesting is the shift around how player partying is portrayed in this era. The way the stories have been told, Jordan was out there more than James Harden but I guess he actually won and there were not cameras around (except for some legendary pics/gifs) so it was fine

But all the stories like the Flu Game being a hangover, Jordan taking limos from NYC to AC and drinking all night then going to the Garden the next day and beasting, drinking 18+ beers while playing multiple rounds of golfs on game day, going on days long benders while making a playoff push, etc….they just don’t happen anymore or we don’t hear about them which is somewhat hard to believe.

Bron trying to bring it back with his Lobos satchel, though

speaking of Jimbo, I might see him next Sunday again lol

 

[noblekane]

man none of these trade offers for kd have been good.

bk gonna get terrible returns for both kyrie and kd

 

[akajae]

“Thought you were doing it” lmao

That’s your whole shtick on here

 

[addict4sneakers]

I believe 1000% in ADs talent being generational but man his history of just leading teams to the playoffs is too spotty

 

[wavycrocket]

Laugh now. Cry later.

Sean Marks is some years Ahead of the curve, but will be proven right down the line

They called Mark Jackson crazy for suggesting the splash bros were the greatest shooting backcourt ever in 2013. I see the vision.

I think the better argument is best players in their peak-primes. Mike is always going to be #1. Steph is in that convo for the next spot (as are all the other top 10 guys).

It will be televised.

 

[crichton]

Man’s talking about shticks like his whole being isn’t “look at Steve lol”

 

[SORIANOTRON]

I think people are just disappointed a bit by AD's career and it's causing them to underrate him.

same dynamic happens with Shaq DWIGHT

 

[wavycrocket]

“Thought you were doing it” lmao

That’s your whole shtick on here

“sTeVe wItH nO fInAls mVP, neEdDiNg kD tO sAvE hImmnnzzzzz”

- akajae , July 2022

You sound as senile as Skip.

 

[akajae]

Man’s talking about shticks like his whole being isn’t “look at Steve lol”

Yea it’s a running joke in here.

 

[akajae]

“sTeVe wItH nO fInAls mVP, neEdDiNg kD tO sAvE hImmnnzzzzz”

- akajae , July 2022

You sound as senile as Skip.

That’s what you took from that? Lmao you got it.

 

[RustyShackleford]

wavycrocket got money to pay off ESPN analyst to make Steph hot takes but won't help finessence out with a payday loan.

MajinZuub about to send mans account to collections. Finna have TransUnion and Equifax on his *** too.

But nah, Wavy instead spend his money on a Curry Propaganda Campaign.

Nasty work

 

[storm2006]

I think people are just disappointed a bit by AD's career and it's causing them to underrate him.

same dynamic happens with Shaq.

I believe 1000% in ADs talent being generational but man his history of just leading teams to the playoffs is too spotty

Might be a tad controversial, and someone can pull numbers of other Top players through their first 10 year, but I saw something that said AD has missed like 27% of the games in his career excluding the playoffs. That is legitimate cause for disappointment, the monikers such as Street Clothes or Always Disabled and the perception of where he ranks being lower than maybe where he should be.

Even with his limited playoff success, if he had a better health record (ie missed fewer games) then I think the narrative around him would be different