Uhhh...Shiiiid...Gotdammit...Uhh...
Originally Posted by Kingtre
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
IF...and that's a big IFFFF... he gets 1 year and 1500 hours community service, then he's a snitch. There's no other way around it. No other way, plain and simple.Originally Posted by doyung9
i mean i hate to say it but it will be brought up at some point....theres a good chance homeboy is giving up info on something-
didnt something come out before saying they were asking him all types of info on other rappers/dboys
i mean even with great lawyers theres only so much they can do...the FACTS in this case are he is a convicted felon and he got caught buying numerous guns...then the plea switch? real talk theres more to it
Let's look at the facts shall we:
1) Convicted felon charged with possession of firearms, attempting to possess illegal firearms, silencers, etc.
2) The FEDERAL, not state, not county, the FEDERAL sentencing guidelines call for a minimum 5 year sentence, maximum 10 year. Mind you, this is a Feds, no paying your way out of these FOR THE MOST PART.
3) He initially pleaded not-guilty, which meant he was either going to a) fight it b) try and kill the bodyguard c) work out a deal.
4) Now I don't know about you guys, but I know alot about criminal law, specifically drug and gun sentencing on the federal level because one of my best friends from high school has two brothers doing Fed time.
One got busted on a conspiracy charge and the other was a weapons charge. Conspiracy case was pretty weak, so they let him plead down to 22 months. Gun charge was looking at 5 years he plead down to 50 months. Neither one of those dudes snitched, simply because it was like a family operation, so if they snitched, there was no one to go home to plus they were pretty much in charge anyway. Oh, and BTW, the guy with the conspiracy charge has NO ARREST record.
Now, you're going to tell me that after the government just threw the book at Marion Jones, a woman who was an Olympic hero, and Michael Vick, a guy who was FIGHTING DOGS, they're going to let T.I., a gangsta rapper who glorifies the use of drugs and guns, off with 1 year and 1500 of community service when he was looking at 5-10 in the Feds, plus 5-10 supervised release following?
He's a snitch. Accept it. And this goes on to prove my other theory. When pressed against the wall, everyone cracks. I don't care how much of a "gangster" you are.
IMO, if the average person with T.I.'s criminal record would get 7 years for this, then the least T.I. should get is 5, plus he should have to fulfill the next 2 years of his sentence doing community service such as speaking to kids.
I hate when the legal system shows preference, especially to people who DON'T deserve it, like T.I. Yeah, I like his music, but the world won't crumble with him in the Feds.
dude its called money..TIP said his self that he's dropped 3 million on attorney's....and who can he snitch on in this instance?
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
Uhhh...Shiiiid...Gotdammit...Uhh...
His arms dealer N'?
Wasn't most of them guns he had illegal?
Army assault rifles that's not even available to the public and shh?
Probably snitched on the same Russians that killed Alonzo.
Originally Posted by PastorTroyNY
all i can say is
give me that level of success,,,, and you wont catch me gettin my hands dirty.
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
Uhhh...Shiiiid...Gotdammit...Uhh...
His arms dealer N'?
Wasn't most of them guns he had illegal?
Army assault rifles that's not even available to the public and shh?
Probably snitched on the same Russians that killed Alonzo.
Originally Posted by dreClark
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
Uhhh...Shiiiid...Gotdammit...Uhh...
His arms dealer N'?
Wasn't most of them guns he had illegal?
Army assault rifles that's not even available to the public and shh?
Probably snitched on the same Russians that killed Alonzo.
ummmmm to bad the whole thing was set-up for him to buy the guns...he bought them from a undercover FBI agent.
so please explain your yourself....are you telling me he's gonna snitch on a FBI agent?
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
Originally Posted by Kingtre
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
IF...and that's a big IFFFF... he gets 1 year and 1500 hours community service, then he's a snitch. There's no other way around it. No other way, plain and simple.Originally Posted by doyung9
i mean i hate to say it but it will be brought up at some point....theres a good chance homeboy is giving up info on something-
didnt something come out before saying they were asking him all types of info on other rappers/dboys
i mean even with great lawyers theres only so much they can do...the FACTS in this case are he is a convicted felon and he got caught buying numerous guns...then the plea switch? real talk theres more to it
Let's look at the facts shall we:
1) Convicted felon charged with possession of firearms, attempting to possess illegal firearms, silencers, etc.
2) The FEDERAL, not state, not county, the FEDERAL sentencing guidelines call for a minimum 5 year sentence, maximum 10 year. Mind you, this is a Feds, no paying your way out of these FOR THE MOST PART.
3) He initially pleaded not-guilty, which meant he was either going to a) fight it b) try and kill the bodyguard c) work out a deal.
4) Now I don't know about you guys, but I know alot about criminal law, specifically drug and gun sentencing on the federal level because one of my best friends from high school has two brothers doing Fed time.
One got busted on a conspiracy charge and the other was a weapons charge. Conspiracy case was pretty weak, so they let him plead down to 22 months. Gun charge was looking at 5 years he plead down to 50 months. Neither one of those dudes snitched, simply because it was like a family operation, so if they snitched, there was no one to go home to plus they were pretty much in charge anyway. Oh, and BTW, the guy with the conspiracy charge has NO ARREST record.
Now, you're going to tell me that after the government just threw the book at Marion Jones, a woman who was an Olympic hero, and Michael Vick, a guy who was FIGHTING DOGS, they're going to let T.I., a gangsta rapper who glorifies the use of drugs and guns, off with 1 year and 1500 of community service when he was looking at 5-10 in the Feds, plus 5-10 supervised release following?
He's a snitch. Accept it. And this goes on to prove my other theory. When pressed against the wall, everyone cracks. I don't care how much of a "gangster" you are.
IMO, if the average person with T.I.'s criminal record would get 7 years for this, then the least T.I. should get is 5, plus he should have to fulfill the next 2 years of his sentence doing community service such as speaking to kids.
I hate when the legal system shows preference, especially to people who DON'T deserve it, like T.I. Yeah, I like his music, but the world won't crumble with him in the Feds.
dude its called money..TIP said his self that he's dropped 3 million on attorney's....and who can he snitch on in this instance?keep watching tv - but since you feel so strongly please explain WHY an expensive attorney is so effective? Then apply those reasons to this case and see if its applicable-
as far as "this instance" goes...you do know that the crime world is much bigger than TI buying guns, and there is no scope when they start asking you questions....you can give them everything from a murder to a major drug dealer to a crooked postal employee...not everything is gonna help your situation much but its not like he can only talk about the gun stuff
Originally Posted by Twig1026
Justice aint served...I'm not a fan of him but he has some good music...with that said, if I was trying to get guns like that, I'd be going in for a long time...so put his +#% in there for the same amount
Originally Posted by Kingtre
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
Originally Posted by Kingtre
Originally Posted by RudyGay22UcoNN
IF...and that's a big IFFFF... he gets 1 year and 1500 hours community service, then he's a snitch. There's no other way around it. No other way, plain and simple.Originally Posted by doyung9
i mean i hate to say it but it will be brought up at some point....theres a good chance homeboy is giving up info on something-
didnt something come out before saying they were asking him all types of info on other rappers/dboys
i mean even with great lawyers theres only so much they can do...the FACTS in this case are he is a convicted felon and he got caught buying numerous guns...then the plea switch? real talk theres more to it
Let's look at the facts shall we:
1) Convicted felon charged with possession of firearms, attempting to possess illegal firearms, silencers, etc.
2) The FEDERAL, not state, not county, the FEDERAL sentencing guidelines call for a minimum 5 year sentence, maximum 10 year. Mind you, this is a Feds, no paying your way out of these FOR THE MOST PART.
3) He initially pleaded not-guilty, which meant he was either going to a) fight it b) try and kill the bodyguard c) work out a deal.
4) Now I don't know about you guys, but I know alot about criminal law, specifically drug and gun sentencing on the federal level because one of my best friends from high school has two brothers doing Fed time.
One got busted on a conspiracy charge and the other was a weapons charge. Conspiracy case was pretty weak, so they let him plead down to 22 months. Gun charge was looking at 5 years he plead down to 50 months. Neither one of those dudes snitched, simply because it was like a family operation, so if they snitched, there was no one to go home to plus they were pretty much in charge anyway. Oh, and BTW, the guy with the conspiracy charge has NO ARREST record.
Now, you're going to tell me that after the government just threw the book at Marion Jones, a woman who was an Olympic hero, and Michael Vick, a guy who was FIGHTING DOGS, they're going to let T.I., a gangsta rapper who glorifies the use of drugs and guns, off with 1 year and 1500 of community service when he was looking at 5-10 in the Feds, plus 5-10 supervised release following?
He's a snitch. Accept it. And this goes on to prove my other theory. When pressed against the wall, everyone cracks. I don't care how much of a "gangster" you are.
IMO, if the average person with T.I.'s criminal record would get 7 years for this, then the least T.I. should get is 5, plus he should have to fulfill the next 2 years of his sentence doing community service such as speaking to kids.
I hate when the legal system shows preference, especially to people who DON'T deserve it, like T.I. Yeah, I like his music, but the world won't crumble with him in the Feds.
dude its called money..TIP said his self that he's dropped 3 million on attorney's....and who can he snitch on in this instance?keep watching tv - but since you feel so strongly please explain WHY an expensive attorney is so effective? Then apply those reasons to this case and see if its applicable-
as far as "this instance" goes...you do know that the crime world is much bigger than TI buying guns, and there is no scope when they start asking you questions....you can give them everything from a murder to a major drug dealer to a crooked postal employee...not everything is gonna help your situation much but its not like he can only talk about the gun stuff
actually I was just explaining what I think happened...and like I said its just specualtion if he dimed because you dont know for sure...I dont come on NT to win arguments, I come on here to voice my opinion on various subjects.
ok...well i come on NT to tell you your opinion isinvalid...have a good day sir
