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[Master Zik]

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You wouldn't keep trying to make this comparison if you really understood the difference

​we are not talking about pedophilia - we are talking about incest and homosexuality ..

You're the one that brought pedophilia in to this and questioned what would be the difference between all 3.

This is a tangent. A deflection to move off the topic.


You can't even back up your claim about pedophilia or bisexuals and instead are making it about the person calling out your bull ****.


I consider this you conceding that dumbass statement since you know you just made it up.

​what was the statement you wanted me to combat?

I haven't made a dumb statement yet ...

what I made up

Now you playing coy.

I put it in bold and straight up said you making **** up.

Your reply was telling me to look it up instead of supporting your claims with facts.

 

[keko jones]

 
​what was the statement you wanted me to combat?

I haven't made a dumb statement yet ...

what I made up

​ps I see - I was heavily involved .... I said morally right - morals are set by the masses ....

I also see pedophilia as morally wrong ....

if that's what  you are referring to, you got it

what I was tyring to argue ....

if you say that homosexuality is right because there are individuals that are born that way

then there are those people that can argue and say that pedophilia is ok  because they are born that way as well ....

obviously I'm not saying that an adult molesting is right - nor i would take they are born that way as an excusable behavior.

 

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​we are not talking about pedophilia - we are talking about incest and homosexuality ..

Man you were talking about pedophilia in that entire post

 

[Master Zik]

I haven't made a dumb statement yet ...

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​Autocorrect ....

So you are saying that everyone that associate themselves are gay, are born that way????

For the sake of argument, pedophilia is a psychological disorder that can be do to a chemical imbalance - so why is that criminalized and not morally right - I mean they can be hereditary???

You can't just present this as fact without providing any kind of proof. 

I haven't made a dumb statement yet ...

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For the sake of argument, pedophilia is a psychological disorder that can be do to a chemical imbalance - so why is that criminalized and not morally right - I mean they can be hereditary???

I haven't made a dumb statement yet ...

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BTW, I'm not arguing the biological basis, just the fact that there are many that aren't born but just choose - like bisexuals .

 

[keko jones]

Man you were talking about pedophilia in that entire post

​no I wasn't - quote the entire post and show me where I mentioned pedophilia .....

 

[keko jones]

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​before you posted that - I already admitted that was stupid ...

 

[Master Zik]

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​before you posted that - I already admitted that was stupid ...

I haven't made a dumb statement yet ...

Hence, you were making **** up like I said.

But I know you'd rather talk about how I'm always wrong and never admit it instead of that dumb **** you are posting and telling me to look up. Despite the fact it's stupid **** you made up.

 

[deleted]

​no I wasn't - quote the entire post and show me where I mentioned pedophilia .....

You posted 3 links about it! The **** kind of **** are you on?

 

[keko jones]

You're the one that brought pedophilia in to this and questioned what would be the difference between all 3.

Now you playing coy.

I put it in bold and straight up said you making **** up.

Your reply was telling me to look it up instead of supporting your claims with facts.

​I already posted a few articles

you got that .....

getting back to topic ...

I already know your stance on siblings banging ....

 

[keko jones]

You posted 3 links about it! The **** kind of **** are you on?

​the question is ....

"if two men or two woman can engage in sexual activities and be normal / acceptable, why not siblings?"
 

obviously the answer is simple - cause the society say is not.

however, society (here in America) has said many things are not acceptable ...

just  wanted to hear peoples view .....

I personally found it hypocritical for a homosexual person to say ewwww to a brother and sister having sex ..... just saying.

 

[deleted]

Incest is a sexual act and homosexuality is an orientation

If you were to condemn a person for engaging in incest, you're only condemning that particular action. There are still plenty of non-family sexual partners out there for them to be with.

But if you were to condemn homosexuality, you're condemning the person's entire sexual identity and saying that they're wrong for having ANY attraction that isn't heterosexual.

 

[SadBoi]

As long as they ain't bothering me and affecting my breathing space, I'm cool with it.

 

[keko jones]

Incest is a sexual act and homosexuality is an orientation

If you were to condemn a person for engaging in incest, you're only condemning that particular action. There are still plenty of non-family sexual partners out there for them to be with.

But if you were to condemn homosexuality, you're condemning the person's entire sexual identity and saying that they're wrong for having ANY attraction that isn't heterosexual.

Incest is a sexual act and homosexuality is an orientation

If you were to condemn a person for engaging in incest, you're only condemning that particular action. There are still plenty of non-family sexual partners out there for them to be with.

But if you were to condemn homosexuality, you're condemning the person's entire sexual identity and saying that they're wrong for having ANY attraction that isn't heterosexual.

understandable .. The question was having sexual relations .... But glad you pointed that out.

 

[iDon’tRead]

"no blood no foul"

 

[bballermarkie]

Isn't this kinda obvious?

Being gay doesn't actually affect anyone but the individuals involved in the relationship and, specifically for this argument, doesn't affect the gene pool.

An incestuous relationship between siblings has shown a rate of 42% of birth defects in the resulting off spring (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201210/the-problem-incest)

You mentioned other cases of birth defects like age of the mother and abusive behavior during a pregnancy. Well taking part of abusive behavior during pregnancy can lead to legal action in Tenn and in many other states it can at least lead to the removal of parental rights from the mother.

Age is a bit trickier, most doctor's will advise mothers not to have children after the age of 35 because the odds of having chromosomal abnormalities (specifically down syndrome in the case) skyrockets to 1/340. So yes there is a problem there and maybe if you'd like to make an argument you could there even though the percentages pale in comparison to sibling-sibling relationships.

 

[W)taps]

 

yoooo wtf..... I did not know that about the middle east...

 

[ninjahood]

 

yoooo wtf..... I did not know that about the middle east...

he's not really "wrong" persay...its

da main point you take away from this is there hasn't been a enlightenment phase that Christians went thru that made following da Bible stop being letter of da law.

what he also touched on bit didn't elaborate on is Arabic culture was extremely advanced back in da days of antiquity, but religious fundamentalists destroyed alot including a thriving advanced semi secular middle Eastern culture.

he may be a lil off base with Persia/Iran...they actually arent some backwoods primitive Afghanistan, they got their own very distinct very culture rich Country...too bad they basically wanna blow Israel to pieces, heh.

them and da Saudis don't get along either...got a whole proxy war goin vs each other in Yemen.

 

[ahat]

he's not really "wrong" persay...its

da main point you take away from this is there hasn't been a enlightenment phase that Christians went thru that made following da Bible stop being letter of da law.

what he also touched on bit didn't elaborate on is Arabic culture was extremely advanced back in da days of antiquity, but religious fundamentalists destroyed alot including a a thriving advanced middle Eastern culture.

he may be a lil off base with Persia/Iran...they actually arent some backwoods primitive Afghanistan, they got their own very distinct very culture rich Country...too bad they basically wanna blow Israel to pieces, heh.

them and da Saudis don't get along either...got a whole proxy war goin vs each other in Yemen.

Yup. He talking utter BS

 

[ninjahood]

 

[AZwildcats]

I don't see the issue with it, as long as they are two consenting adults. It might be weird to me, but so are make rompers so I don't wear them

 

[41239]

I over hear a couple arguing about gay couples and how it was acceptable. The counter argument was, "if two men or two woman can engage in sexual activities and be normal / acceptable, why not siblings?"

Want to hear thoughts on this ....

The premise of the argument is faulty from the outset.

If people don't understand that being gay isn't a choice, much like being straight isn't, then they need to just find something else to discuss.

I ain't wake up one day and decide I like women, I just always have, so why do people think it's any different for gay folks??

Incest is wholly a choice.

if youre going to argue your own point then yea you're right

you havent even attempted to address whether or not homos is as acceptable as incest