Acting "Black"?

[35kd]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by toast1985

Man call it what you want, there is a distinct cultural difference in mannerisms, speech, and slang. It's definitely annoying to hear people say it to me, but there are identifiable characteristics unique to our culture.

Exactly. Why people try so hard to act like it doesn't exist. Well it does people. Certain traits are usually associated with certain groups of people. Face it.

yep.

Well ignorant people over-rely on differences in their everyday interactions with someone of another "race". Race is not culture. If a black woman speaks in an English accent and dresses Mary Poppins why would anyone tell her she "sounds white"?


And there are many accents within the black "race"......I speak in a pseudo-long island/British/ Boston/ Nigerian accent and still get the "you sound white and proper". My accent also changes a bit depending on who I'm speaking with I sound super Nigerian when I'm with my family.

 It's ignorant and racist. Not every black person (Which includes Black Africans, Europeans-yes there are black Germans, Dutch, Frenchmen) etc sounds like a goon from Da Heightz. Most people who think like this have never left their block and have an extremely narrowminded view of the world we live in.

still a weak argument....especially when your just said you act like who you around which means you basically cosigned what DC said..its called people are products

of there environment...some people take up characteristics that aren't common in there's social scope....hence da term "actin____".

well talkin to black people i don't take on a stereotypically "black" accent or mannerisms.........whatever the hell that is

 The stereotypical black American you see everyday on your block isn't representative of the entire African diaspora.  And the fact that my Nigerian accent comes out at times, makes the whole "you don't sound/act black" statement obsolete.


The term "Actin'______", insinuates being something you're not. If you know anything about second generation Nigerians you'd know the accent change I was speaking of is spontaneous. If a black person from China, born and raised speaks Japanese and has Japanese mannerisms....is he/she still "acting".


like i said people are diverse, stop generalizing.

 



This is also why I refrain from telling white kids who rock long white tees and girbaud jeans 5 sizes too big that they're "Acting black". Firstly, that doesn't represent all black people

  2. He may not be "acting".

Why the hell would someone in China be born and raised Japanese?

Mistake....i had an Asian country in mind....guess i couldn't decide which example to use. i was distracted.



china...japan...same #$$# if u ask me

china...japan...not the same though

 

[35kd]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by toast1985

Man call it what you want, there is a distinct cultural difference in mannerisms, speech, and slang. It's definitely annoying to hear people say it to me, but there are identifiable characteristics unique to our culture.

Exactly. Why people try so hard to act like it doesn't exist. Well it does people. Certain traits are usually associated with certain groups of people. Face it.

yep.

Well ignorant people over-rely on differences in their everyday interactions with someone of another "race". Race is not culture. If a black woman speaks in an English accent and dresses Mary Poppins why would anyone tell her she "sounds white"?


And there are many accents within the black "race"......I speak in a pseudo-long island/British/ Boston/ Nigerian accent and still get the "you sound white and proper". My accent also changes a bit depending on who I'm speaking with I sound super Nigerian when I'm with my family.

 It's ignorant and racist. Not every black person (Which includes Black Africans, Europeans-yes there are black Germans, Dutch, Frenchmen) etc sounds like a goon from Da Heightz. Most people who think like this have never left their block and have an extremely narrowminded view of the world we live in.

still a weak argument....especially when your just said you act like who you around which means you basically cosigned what DC said..its called people are products

of there environment...some people take up characteristics that aren't common in there's social scope....hence da term "actin____".

well talkin to black people i don't take on a stereotypically "black" accent or mannerisms.........whatever the hell that is

 The stereotypical black American you see everyday on your block isn't representative of the entire African diaspora.  And the fact that my Nigerian accent comes out at times, makes the whole "you don't sound/act black" statement obsolete.


The term "Actin'______", insinuates being something you're not. If you know anything about second generation Nigerians you'd know the accent change I was speaking of is spontaneous. If a black person from China, born and raised speaks Japanese and has Japanese mannerisms....is he/she still "acting".


like i said people are diverse, stop generalizing.

 



This is also why I refrain from telling white kids who rock long white tees and girbaud jeans 5 sizes too big that they're "Acting black". Firstly, that doesn't represent all black people

  2. He may not be "acting".

Why the hell would someone in China be born and raised Japanese?

Mistake....i had an Asian country in mind....guess i couldn't decide which example to use. i was distracted.



china...japan...same #$$# if u ask me

china...japan...not the same though

 

[raginl3ull]

There are two dominant cultures in America.  African American and Caucasian.  Latinos are pretty close but not as dominant.  With that being said, every other race tends to ASSIMILATE in order to fit in socially.  Case in point, I am filipino borned and raised in Oakland, CA. I went to elementary school where me and two white 3rd graders were the only different race in the entire school.  Everyone else was black.  By the time I reached high school, I listened to rap music, sagged my jeans half way pass my +%$, spoke with slang and girls that I spoke to over the phone thought I was black.  

As I got into college and and started to work white collar career jobs, I was surrounded with more whites (educated at that) which meant there was no place for my hood style.  When you are in corporate, the slang and everything else from the hood gets left at the front door or else you get looked down upon.  So that means I had to assimilate again in order to fit in. 

The good thing is, I can switch it up...I can go to the hood and back to work and fit right in.  Where as most yuppies wouldn't survive a sec going to East 14th st., or a dude from the hood with no education can walk into a corporate job and have a chance.  Get it? 

 

[raginl3ull]

There are two dominant cultures in America.  African American and Caucasian.  Latinos are pretty close but not as dominant.  With that being said, every other race tends to ASSIMILATE in order to fit in socially.  Case in point, I am filipino borned and raised in Oakland, CA. I went to elementary school where me and two white 3rd graders were the only different race in the entire school.  Everyone else was black.  By the time I reached high school, I listened to rap music, sagged my jeans half way pass my +%$, spoke with slang and girls that I spoke to over the phone thought I was black.  

As I got into college and and started to work white collar career jobs, I was surrounded with more whites (educated at that) which meant there was no place for my hood style.  When you are in corporate, the slang and everything else from the hood gets left at the front door or else you get looked down upon.  So that means I had to assimilate again in order to fit in. 

The good thing is, I can switch it up...I can go to the hood and back to work and fit right in.  Where as most yuppies wouldn't survive a sec going to East 14th st., or a dude from the hood with no education can walk into a corporate job and have a chance.  Get it? 

 

[adobecs4]

Originally Posted by Steve212

Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Originally Posted by tim teufel

for some reason blacks have to be the most hated and copied race out there.

Fixed.

This.

And I get people telling me that I "act too white", because I speak properly.  It's sad, but it is what it is. 

I get this a lot also

 

[adobecs4]

Originally Posted by Steve212

Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Originally Posted by tim teufel

for some reason blacks have to be the most hated and copied race out there.

Fixed.

This.

And I get people telling me that I "act too white", because I speak properly.  It's sad, but it is what it is. 

I get this a lot also

 

[brettthejett]

Yeah, got in an argument once with a fellow African American.

He says: no distracts but if you ain't black dont ACT black

I said: ...really? when you track your expenses on excel, you're acting white.

How can you generalize like that

 

[brettthejett]

Yeah, got in an argument once with a fellow African American.

He says: no distracts but if you ain't black dont ACT black

I said: ...really? when you track your expenses on excel, you're acting white.

How can you generalize like that

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by Peteweezy

Originally Posted by cguy610

The issue here stems from the misuse of the term "acting black" or "acting white".

In general, slang that white people used to use was "awesome" "that's so cool" "he's a d-bag". So I would call that talking like a "white guy".

The Black slang was like "youngbul" "that's my isht" "he's a P". So I would call that talking black, as in slang.

The problem is when idiots think that talking proper is "talking white" or "acting white". When it's really about the slang and it's almost like saying someone has a southern or northern accent or whatever.


My next example, casual clothes. In general alot of people in urban Black areas dress differently than white people. It's just like an urban culture difference, not positive or negative.

The problem is when people associate a few outliers(pants sagging, loud,etc) with "acting black", and we know what these negative outliers are. It would be like if someone were to associate "acting white" with making racist statements.

Basically knew we thought alike.  You at Fat Tuesday on friday since I know you not playing footall with us on Sat

.?
  

  Yea, I ain't got isht else to do.  Damn, ya'll playing on Christmas morning though.  Well, you already know me, it's gonna be too damn cold and I'm too old to be getting tackled by ya'll big mofos. 

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by Peteweezy

Originally Posted by cguy610

The issue here stems from the misuse of the term "acting black" or "acting white".

In general, slang that white people used to use was "awesome" "that's so cool" "he's a d-bag". So I would call that talking like a "white guy".

The Black slang was like "youngbul" "that's my isht" "he's a P". So I would call that talking black, as in slang.

The problem is when idiots think that talking proper is "talking white" or "acting white". When it's really about the slang and it's almost like saying someone has a southern or northern accent or whatever.


My next example, casual clothes. In general alot of people in urban Black areas dress differently than white people. It's just like an urban culture difference, not positive or negative.

The problem is when people associate a few outliers(pants sagging, loud,etc) with "acting black", and we know what these negative outliers are. It would be like if someone were to associate "acting white" with making racist statements.

Basically knew we thought alike.  You at Fat Tuesday on friday since I know you not playing footall with us on Sat

.?
  

  Yea, I ain't got isht else to do.  Damn, ya'll playing on Christmas morning though.  Well, you already know me, it's gonna be too damn cold and I'm too old to be getting tackled by ya'll big mofos. 

 

[je ne sais quoi]

What about people saying, "That's so Raven!".
If I had 5 dollars for every time I heard that, I'd be king of Subway.

 

[je ne sais quoi]

What about people saying, "That's so Raven!".
If I had 5 dollars for every time I heard that, I'd be king of Subway.

 

[k2theablam]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

well talkin to black people i don't take on a stereotypically "black" accent or mannerisms.........whatever the hell that is

 The stereotypical black American you see everyday on your block isn't representative of the entire African diaspora.  And the fact that my Nigerian accent comes out at times, makes the whole "you don't sound/act black" statement obsolete.


The term "Actin'______", insinuates being something you're not. If you know anything about second generation Nigerians you'd know the accent change I was speaking of is spontaneous. If a black person from China, born and raised speaks Japanese and has Japanese mannerisms....is he/she still "acting".


like i said people are diverse, stop generalizing.

 



This is also why I refrain from telling white kids who rock long white tees and girbaud jeans 5 sizes too big that they're "Acting black". Firstly, that doesn't represent all black people

  2. He may not be "acting".

Why the hell would someone in China be born and raised Japanese?

Mistake....i had an Asian country in mind....guess i couldn't decide which example to use. i was distracted.



china...japan...same #$$# if u ask me

Ignorant and offensive.

 

[k2theablam]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

well talkin to black people i don't take on a stereotypically "black" accent or mannerisms.........whatever the hell that is

 The stereotypical black American you see everyday on your block isn't representative of the entire African diaspora.  And the fact that my Nigerian accent comes out at times, makes the whole "you don't sound/act black" statement obsolete.


The term "Actin'______", insinuates being something you're not. If you know anything about second generation Nigerians you'd know the accent change I was speaking of is spontaneous. If a black person from China, born and raised speaks Japanese and has Japanese mannerisms....is he/she still "acting".


like i said people are diverse, stop generalizing.

 



This is also why I refrain from telling white kids who rock long white tees and girbaud jeans 5 sizes too big that they're "Acting black". Firstly, that doesn't represent all black people

  2. He may not be "acting".

Why the hell would someone in China be born and raised Japanese?

Mistake....i had an Asian country in mind....guess i couldn't decide which example to use. i was distracted.



china...japan...same #$$# if u ask me

Ignorant and offensive.

 

[tecca nena]

Originally Posted by Raginl3ull



There are two dominant cultures in America.  African American and Caucasian.  Latinos are pretty close but not as dominant.  With that being said, every other race tends to ASSIMILATE in order to fit in socially.  Case in point, I am filipino borned and raised in Oakland, CA. I went to elementary school where me and two white 3rd graders were the only different race in the entire school.  Everyone else was black.  By the time I reached high school, I listened to rap music, sagged my jeans half way pass my +%$, spoke with slang and girls that I spoke to over the phone thought I was black.  

As I got into college and and started to work white collar career jobs, I was surrounded with more whites (educated at that) which meant there was no place for my hood style.  When you are in corporate, the slang and everything else from the hood gets left at the front door or else you get looked down upon.  So that means I had to assimilate again in order to fit in. 

The good thing is, I can switch it up...I can go to the hood and back to work and fit right in.  Where as most yuppies wouldn't survive a sec going to East 14th st., or a dude from the hood with no education can walk into a corporate job and have a chance.  Get it? 

Lol... You and me are like the same person

 

[keithsweatsjordans]

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Yeah, got in an argument once with a fellow African American.

He says: no distracts but if you ain't black dont ACT black

I said: ...really? when you track your expenses on excel, you're acting white.

How can you generalize like that

"If you ain't black, don't ACT black"

 

[tecca nena]

Originally Posted by Raginl3ull



There are two dominant cultures in America.  African American and Caucasian.  Latinos are pretty close but not as dominant.  With that being said, every other race tends to ASSIMILATE in order to fit in socially.  Case in point, I am filipino borned and raised in Oakland, CA. I went to elementary school where me and two white 3rd graders were the only different race in the entire school.  Everyone else was black.  By the time I reached high school, I listened to rap music, sagged my jeans half way pass my +%$, spoke with slang and girls that I spoke to over the phone thought I was black.  

As I got into college and and started to work white collar career jobs, I was surrounded with more whites (educated at that) which meant there was no place for my hood style.  When you are in corporate, the slang and everything else from the hood gets left at the front door or else you get looked down upon.  So that means I had to assimilate again in order to fit in. 

The good thing is, I can switch it up...I can go to the hood and back to work and fit right in.  Where as most yuppies wouldn't survive a sec going to East 14th st., or a dude from the hood with no education can walk into a corporate job and have a chance.  Get it? 

Lol... You and me are like the same person

 

[keithsweatsjordans]

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Yeah, got in an argument once with a fellow African American.

He says: no distracts but if you ain't black dont ACT black

I said: ...really? when you track your expenses on excel, you're acting white.

How can you generalize like that

"If you ain't black, don't ACT black"

 

[finnns2003]

smh at Anton... Chinese and Japanese are the same thing to you? Boy oh boy, do the race threads bring out ignorance.

 

[finnns2003]

smh at Anton... Chinese and Japanese are the same thing to you? Boy oh boy, do the race threads bring out ignorance.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

smh at Anton... Chinese and Japanese are the same thing to you? Boy oh boy, do the race threads bring out ignorance.

I WAS BEING.................SARCASTIC.

Why would anything about my approach/point of view in this thread give anyone the impression that I believe the Japanese and the Chinese are the same thing. People are slow as hell

I've said several times on NT race thread that there are different cultures within races. I have a lot of Asian friends, and I know for a fact they  hate being confused for a country they're not from.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

smh at Anton... Chinese and Japanese are the same thing to you? Boy oh boy, do the race threads bring out ignorance.

I WAS BEING.................SARCASTIC.

Why would anything about my approach/point of view in this thread give anyone the impression that I believe the Japanese and the Chinese are the same thing. People are slow as hell

I've said several times on NT race thread that there are different cultures within races. I have a lot of Asian friends, and I know for a fact they  hate being confused for a country they're not from.

 

[finnns2003]

It sure didn't look that way, I wasn't the only one who interpreted it that way.

 

[finnns2003]

It sure didn't look that way, I wasn't the only one who interpreted it that way.

 

[ag 47]

Originally Posted by tim teufel

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

I am sure you UNDERSTAND what someone means when they say a race can be copied. Don't play dumb. Now, whether or not that is a politically correct comment is another story, but you damn sure know the intentions of the statement.

nah i really don't. you mean being unemployed? not being there for my kids? going to jail? it can mean a lot of things.

What are you? A @@!!@@% moron?