Air Jordan 11 Low IE OG black red

[PremioBinSoleFlyUnion]

Copped a pair of 2003’s a few years ago that I only wore once. Still going to cop this years release. in the mean time I think im going to start rocking the pair I currently have.

Post a pic in your best fit (with a cigar)

 

[spoonmanofthehour]

Post a pic in your best fit (with a cigar)

 

[wizards23brown]

It looks like the lines on the upper are different, that’s about the only thing I can notice besides the sole being slightly more gum/yellow looking.

 

[cjdynasty]

From where?

zadeh …

literally !

 

[an808caucasian]

Can’t find it now, but someone posted on IG some
MJ PEs with leather behind the mesh. Anybody else see that? Never knew that detail about the PEs he wore…

 

[vegetaray123]

Can’t find it now, but someone posted on IG some
MJ PEs with leather behind the mesh. Anybody else see that? Never knew that detail about the PEs he wore…

Speaking of OG’s…Y’all see The changes Mike had to his in game pairs?

 

[jshortt]

Yea i think I see what was off now. OGs almost look all leather while the retro has the softer durabuck looking material. The tongue and shade of red.

Were the OGs all leather?

It was like an oiled type of nubuck as far as I remember…

vegetaray123 is right. I also think it's weird lighting. The panels were definitely nubuck, and the rest of the shoe was a more supple leather (for lack of better term). This retro lookskme its gonna be REALLY close to 1:1 though.

 

[Chimpmanproletariat]

Here are some photos of my '96 pair. Apart from the pre-yellowed sole of the new retro, the main differences appear to be in the materials and shape. The original had very thick, soft leather (and nubuck panels) which gave the contours and stitched areas depth/dimensionality and made the design details stand out.

In my opinion, the leather on the retro looks thin/cheap and shiny in comparison to the original. The shape around the toe box is off and the soles are pre-yellowed. Other than that, the retro looks decent. It's not a total miss like '03/'11, but they could have been executed better.

 

[spoonmanofthehour]

Here are some photos of my '96 pair. Apart from the pre-yellowed sole of the new retro, the main differences appear to be in the materials and shape. The original had very thick, soft leather (and nubuck panels) which gave the contours and stitched areas depth/dimensionality and made the design details stand out.

In my opinion, the leather on the retro looks thin/cheap and shiny in comparison to the original. The shape around the toe box is off and the soles are pre-yellowed. Other than that, the retro looks decent. It's not a total miss like '03/'11, but they could have been executed better.

You are right. You can tell the quality upgrade in the ‘96. Beautiful looking shoe right there. They could’ve done a way better job on the retro but it‘s decent.

 

[cedb713]

I’M IN...TWO PAIR MINIMUM (PAUSE.)... HOLLA.

CED B.

 

[dhtowng]

Here are some photos of my '96 pair. Apart from the pre-yellowed sole of the new retro, the main differences appear to be in the materials and shape. The original had very thick, soft leather (and nubuck panels) which gave the contours and stitched areas depth/dimensionality and made the design details stand out.

In my opinion, the leather on the retro looks thin/cheap and shiny in comparison to the original. The shape around the toe box is off and the soles are pre-yellowed. Other than that, the retro looks decent. It's not a total miss like '03/'11, but they could have been executed better.

I don’t think it comes “pre yellowed” like you and some others are saying though. It’s just not clear. I seen video yesterday where doesn’t look yellow at all just opaque which of course will eventually turn yellow.

The retro is gonna be fine. Can we let the shoe come out first and actually release before we start making assumptions and bashing the quality etc.? Of course leather quality is not going to be as soft as the OG but other than that and outside of just itching for something to complain about what more could anyone want from these? The shape? Lol okay. They look absolutely fine here to me but I’ll let y’all pick em apart. Have at it. NT never disappoints lol.

 

[dhtowng]

Sheer physics will not allow JB to go back to the year 1996 to re-create these to bring them back to the year 2021 for you guys. In other words, no retro will ever be as good or a 1:1 to the OG. Always moving the goal post. They finally fixed the outsole and deleted the EP and now it’s something else lol. Never ends is all I’m saying.

 

[AIR J XIII]

In other words, no retro will ever be as good or a 1:1 to the OG.

It doesn’t have to be, they proved they can produce a retro that is 97-98% perfect with the recraft 90s. The point is they could do better but are CHOOSING not to, not that they are unable to.

 

[Chimpmanproletariat]

Man, I know NT is heavily populated with Jordan fanatics and brand loyalists, but some of these dudes be acting like they're on the Nike payroll.

If you're offended by my saying these are "decent, but could have been better", don't go in the IG comments right now. They're giving 'em hell over there.

 

[dhtowng]

Man, I know NT is heavily populated with Jordan fanatics and brand loyalists, but some of these dudes be acting like they're on the Nike payroll.

If you're offended by my saying these are "decent, but could have been better", don't go in the IG comments right now. They're giving 'em hell over there.

Not on the payroll at all and I heavily criticize Nike and their products when it’s warranted and within reason. Hell I feel I’m damn near the reason why they fixed the AJ3 (jk but kinda serious). I complained hard about those for years on here and next thing you know they were fixed by the time the Unite 3s rolled out. Same with 11s. Here though I just don’t see much if anything to complain about all things considered.

It doesn’t have to be, they proved they can produce a retro that is 97-98% perfect with the recraft 90s. The point is they could do better but are CHOOSING not to, not that they are unable to.

Just how far “off” do you think these are though? Like serious question. How drastically different do you think these look compared to OGs just based on the pics we’ve seen? Please give specific examples that you can speak on without having the shoe in hand yet (for instance you can’t say shiny leather when we know lighting affects that sort of thing). To me I’d say it’s at least 95% accurate but you tell me. Even ‘20 infrareds are different compared to the OGs in a few respects. Mainly the grey upper is an entirely different material (felt) compared to the OGs which used suede. It’ll never be exact. But hey man it’s cool. Hate em love em Idc. I think they look great and can’t wait to copp multiples. I won’t let anyone, not even NT steal my joy for these lol. Been waiting on an accurate version of this shoe for far too long. I’ll let y’all get down into the weeds and critique/compare every detail stitch for stitch to the OG lol. The necessary adjustments were made IMO and as far as I’m concerned.

 

[spoonmanofthehour]

Man, I know NT is heavily populated with Jordan fanatics and brand loyalists, but some of these dudes be acting like they're on the Nike payroll.

If you're offended by my saying these are "decent, but could have been better", don't go in the IG comments right now. They're giving 'em hell over there.

I’m not offended. Heading over to IG now.

 

[Chimpmanproletariat]

If you complained heavily about the AJ3 for years and believe your complaints made a difference, then you should understand where an IE purist is coming from, even if you don't agree.

From the high-def photos we've seen, it's plain to me that they used the same plastic-looking, shiny leather as the "Space Jam" and last year's Black Cement IE. The shape and materials of those shoes are not on point with the OG. Plus, they changed the hue of the sole, which I pointed out with photos a few pages back.

Those are my gripes, and I've read others (tongue height, wrong red; etc.) That said, I still think these are a decent re-make and better than previous retro versions.

 

[dhtowng]

If you complained heavily about the AJ3 for years and believe your complaints made a difference, then you should understand where an IE purist is coming from, even if you don't agree.

From the high-def photos we've seen, it's plain to me that they used the same plastic-looking, shiny leather as the "Space Jam" and last year's Black Cement IE. The shape and materials of those shoes are not on point with the OG. Plus, they changed the hue of the sole, which I pointed out with photos a few pages back.

Those are my gripes, and I've read others (tongue height, wrong red; etc.) That said, I still think these are a decent re-make and better than previous retro versions.

Fair

 

[greekgator]

I dunno..the leather on these looks way better than the SJ pair?

 

[rainking]

I need rainking and his opinion on these differences.

I really don't even care, I expected about this level of minor differences. They'd have had to redo the IE overall in general to get even closer to the OG. Knew that wasn't gonna happen. I wish it was September now, I need my five pairs.

 

[spoonmanofthehour]

I really don't even care, I expected about this level of minor differences. They'd have had to redo the IE overall in general to get even closer to the OG. Knew that wasn't gonna happen. I wish it was September now, I need my five pairs.

I say I’m not gonna cop, but your enthusiasm may get me to break.

 

[rainking]

I say I’m not gonna cop, but your enthusiasm may get me to break.

I don't understand how you don't want a pair already. This shoe looks fantastic on foot, with shorts, with warmups, with anything. I remember picking them up and looking at them on release day in 96. Why I didn't actually buy them, I can't really explain. I think I just felt guilty being basically broke and in college, and my black/red mids were sitting brand new still in my closet from two months prior. I guess I didn't want to spend another $100-whatever dollars on another pair of shoes. But in retrospect, I'm shocked I had that level of self control LOL

 

[spoonmanofthehour]

I don't understand how you don't want a pair already. This shoe looks fantastic on foot, with shorts, with warmups, with anything.

I know, you’re so right.

 

[vegetaray123]

Here are some photos of my '96 pair. Apart from the pre-yellowed sole of the new retro, the main differences appear to be in the materials and shape. The original had very thick, soft leather (and nubuck panels) which gave the contours and stitched areas depth/dimensionality and made the design details stand out.

In my opinion, the leather on the retro looks thin/cheap and shiny in comparison to the original. The shape around the toe box is off and the soles are pre-yellowed. Other than that, the retro looks decent. It's not a total miss like '03/'11, but they could have been executed better.

The cracking on the toe of the left shoe is heartbreaking…Those look wearable still otherwise…

 

[an808caucasian]

Thanks vegetaray123 ! I should have known it was posted in here...Love those kinds of tiny details that go overlooked. I hadn't heard of this til just now! Anyone got more/better/in hand pics of the MJ PEs?