Brittney Griner Appreciation

Chick is a beast...... they need to check her draws....


On the real tho, she has talent, she will be great in the WNBA.
 
WNBA needs to do something all these college stars go to the WNBA and just become another name. I think i enjoy NCAA womens more then the WNBA the teams have character and a story. They need to hire some new marketing people for the whole league
 
there is no marketing genius out there that can make people appreciate women's sports, and that's what every professional women's league is up against: cultural disrespect.

"They're not fast enough."

"Onooez, she's pregnant. Their season is over."

"So many mistakes."

"She's a he. Look at that adams apple."

and those comments aren't just made about the WNBA. It's all women's professional sports. And no amount of marketing is going to fix that.
 
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He went to take off her jersey after the L yesterday, and I was thinking" NOOO you'll get exposed" . she ended up pulling it back down.

IT is a beast, and will certainly dominate the WNBA for years.
 
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The female Wilt Chamberlain :hat


Never thought I would watch a WNBA game but I'll be watching her.
 
there is no marketing genius out there that can make people appreciate women's sports, and that's what every professional women's league is up against: cultural disrespect.

Or its just that people enjoy sports that are played at the highest level....something no women's league can claim to be.

Griner is appreciated though. :hat
 
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without thinking about what you just said, you just proved exactly what I'm talking about. Mens sports is not higher... or above... women's sports. but to have the mindset that mens sports is higher than women sports is a cultural disrespect that marketing can't fix.

you've responded to me before about this, and none of this makes any sense to you because, likev most, you're viewing the two in competition of each other, and they're not. Mens sports is over there *points in a direction*... and women's sports is over there... *points in another direction*. They're not competitors. One is not higher than the other, because they're not in competition with each other. Take women's sports for something separate than men's sports, and that's having a respectful approach.
 
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without thinking about what you just said, you just proved exactly what I'm talking about. Mens sports is not higher... or above... women's sports. but to have the mindset that mens sports is higher than women sports is a cultural disrespect that marketing can't fix.

you've responded to me before about this, and none of this makes any sense to you because, likev most, you're viewing the two in competition of each other, and they're not. Mens sports is over there *points in a directionX... and women's sports is over there... *points in another direction*. They're not competitors. One is not higher than the other, because they're not in competition with each other. Take women's sports for something separate than men's sports, and that's having a respectful approach.
they are competitors though, if im at home on a friday night and there's a lakers game and sparks game on, i have to pick between the too when choosing my entertainment. They have to compete for viewers/ratings and because (in most cases) mens sports is more entertaining/faster/flashier than womens sports, people will choose to watch men playing a sport over women
 
without thinking about what you just said, you just proved exactly what I'm talking about. Mens sports is not higher... or above... women's sports. but to have the mindset that mens sports is higher than women sports is a cultural disrespect that marketing can't fix.

you've responded to me before about this, and none of this makes any sense to you because, likev most, you're viewing the two in competition of each other, and they're not. Mens sports is over there *points in a directionX... and women's sports is over there... *points in another direction*. They're not competitors. One is not higher than the other, because they're not in competition with each other. Take women's sports for something separate than men's sports, and that's having a respectful approach.

Sorry Ska, I dont agree with any of this in the slightest bit. How can you say Men's sports are not played at a higher level than women's sports? Or are you saying that strictly because it is of your belief that you shouldnt compare the two?......which is another thing I completely disagree with. They are the same sport. Just because one has men playing and the other has women playing, doesnt make the sport itself, different.

I DO in fact take women's sports as something separate as men's....and I am respectful about women's sports. I just dont enjoy them as much as mens, and thats because the pace, athleticism, and overall product of play is vastly superior in mens sports than in womens.

Its similar to me liking professional sports more than college sports. And thats not to say I dont enjoy college sports. I just prefer professional because those sports are played at a higher level.
 
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Come on let's be serious. Woman's basketball is boring. And griners dunks really ain't special
 
thats like saying hs basketball is less entertaining that the nba. Yea sure the NBA is "faster/flashier" but you can still appreciate the hs basketball players because they bring a sense or urgency and hunger to the game. They play like every game is their last. The few WNBA games that i have watched have been complete blow outs the teams seem to be so un balanced and i really don't have time to watch and learn what teams are the elite teams. When the bobcats play the heat they try their best to win. WNBA they roll over and quit no hunger what so ever. NCAA womens they are fighting for a national championship, fighting to reach the WNBA, or fighting to remain relevant.
 
thats like saying hs basketball is less entertaining that the nba. Yea sure the NBA is "faster/flashier" but you can still appreciate the hs basketball players because they bring a sense or urgency and hunger to the game. They play like every game is their last. The few WNBA games that i have watched have been complete blow outs the teams seem to be so un balanced and i really don't have time to watch and learn what teams are the elite teams. When the bobcats play the heat they try their best to win. WNBA they roll over and quit no hunger what so ever. NCAA womens they are fighting for a national championship, fighting to reach the WNBA, or fighting to remain relevant.
but at the end of the day the NBA is still more entertaining than high school basketball. you can write essays on why hs/womans sports are worth watching but at the end of the day there is a more entertaining better quality product out there
 
thats like saying hs basketball is less entertaining that the nba. Yea sure the NBA is "faster/flashier" but you can still appreciate the hs basketball players because they bring a sense or urgency and hunger to the game. They play like every game is their last. The few WNBA games that i have watched have been complete blow outs the teams seem to be so un balanced and i really don't have time to watch and learn what teams are the elite teams. When the bobcats play the heat they try their best to win. WNBA they roll over and quit no hunger what so ever. NCAA womens they are fighting for a national championship, fighting to reach the WNBA, or fighting to remain relevant.
but at the end of the day the NBA is still more entertaining than high school basketball. you can write essays on why hs/womans sports are worth watching but at the end of the day there is a more entertaining better quality product out there

Just because u feel its more entertaining that doesn't tell the story for everyone. I would never watch a hockey game but if someone i know or my hs has a game i would watch the game because i am somewhat connected to the team. WNBA has no identity so how can someone be interested. The stars are only stars because they were in college.
 
I don't think society would ALWAYS pick mens' sports over womens'. The 2011 Women's NCAA Final was MUCH MORE entertaining than the Men's, which was God awful. There were a bunch of NTers on here that shared that sentiment. I do think marketing can do something to improve the disrespect of women's sports. Case in point, Skylar Diggins. Baby girl went from maybe a couple thousand twitter followers to tens of thousands in Final Four weekend of 2011. Lil Wayne gave her a shoutout and BOOM! Instant fame. Since ESPN exclusively owns the rights to the Women's games, they should've milked that Skylar Diggins cow to improve their ratings, but I don't think they did it the best they could have.
 
Women's tennis, women's volleyball (indoor and outdoor), women's track, and women's soccer I think are sports a large majority of us look at as high end and you don't think you are watching lesser players. Those players are elite, and we view them as such. I would even argue we look at women's college basketball (the top teams) as great teams and we respect them and know the best girl players.

Bu then on the flipside the WNBA, despite having the best of the best women's basketball players, has almost always been looked at as an inferior product no one has much of an interest in viewing.

Why is this?

It's because of the WNBA's entire marketing program the last decade+. Many office people should have lost jobs.

We've been over this before here on NT (and it has gotten better over the years) but their biggest mistake was "We Got Next." We knew the WNBA was going to have to align themselves with the NBA, there was no question there. But the route they went for years of "We are equal to men" and splicing NBA highlights with WNBA highlights, wearing close to the same NBA uniforms/logos, and also throwing in the WNBA players in the NBA All Star weekend, etc turned off so many people that the league has been playing catch up ever since and great players like Griner, etc are having to use Europe as the place to make their money and have fans get really interested.

There are hundreds of thousands of NBA followers who are still offended by that initial marketing push, who now say "no chance in hell you are catching me watching WNBA" like it is a pay back for what the NBA put them through. I admit back in the day I was one of them. Meanwhile other top women's sports have shown if you can make yourself a stand-alone product, let it grow organically showcasing the best players in the world, people will watch and also won't look as them as "oh god it's women." I do think the WNBA is slowly getting bigger and bigger which is a good thing. And these latest ladies coming in cannot hurt.
 
i am sure she will do her thing in the wnba but whats the deal with her last game ? only ten shots ? she also got pushed around by a girl half her size and weight. when the game was up for grabs she did not look to take over. terrible last game.
 
Just because u feel its more entertaining that doesn't tell the story for everyone. I would never watch a hockey game but if someone i know or my hs has a game i would watch the game because i am somewhat connected to the team. WNBA has no identity so how can someone be interested. The stars are only stars because they were in college.
not everyone but 97% of people would rather watch mens basketball over womans basketball. not saying women dont work as hard on their game or that they dont want to win as much as men do but the quality of play and overall entertainment value is higher in mens sports (at least for large majority of people)
 
Women's tennis, women's volleyball (indoor and outdoor), women's track, and women's soccer I think are sports a large majority of us look at as high end and you don't think you are watching lesser players. Those players are elite, and we view them as such. I would even argue we look at women's college basketball (the top teams) as great teams and we respect them and know the best girl players.

Bu then on the flipside the WNBA, despite having the best of the best women's basketball players, has almost always been looked at as an inferior product no one has much of an interest in viewing.

Why is this?

It's because of the WNBA's entire marketing program the last decade+. Many office people should have lost jobs.

We've been over this before here on NT (and it has gotten better over the years) but their biggest mistake was "We Got Next." We knew the WNBA was going to have to align themselves with the NBA, there was no question there. But the route they went for years of "We are equal to men" and splicing NBA highlights with WNBA highlights, wearing close to the same NBA uniforms/logos, and also throwing in the WNBA players in the NBA All Star weekend, etc turned off so many people that the league has been playing catch up ever since and great players like Griner, etc are having to use Europe as the place to make their money and have fans get really interested.

There are hundreds of thousands of NBA followers who are still offended by that initial marketing push, who now say "no chance in hell you are catching me watching WNBA" like it is a pay back for what the NBA put them through. I admit back in the day I was one of them. Meanwhile other top women's sports have shown if you can make yourself a stand-alone product, let it grow organically showcasing the best players in the world, people will watch and also won't look as them as "oh god it's women." I do think the WNBA is slowly getting bigger and bigger which is a good thing. And these latest ladies coming in cannot hurt.
even for all these sports that you listed the top names are playing their respective sports better than any WOMAN has played the sport, while when you watch a mens sport you are watching people playing at a highest level thats humanly possible (this includes both men and women)
 
I don't think society would ALWAYS pick mens' sports over womens'. The 2011 Women's NCAA Final was MUCH MORE entertaining than the Men's, which was God awful. There were a bunch of NTers on here that shared that sentiment. I do think marketing can do something to improve the disrespect of women's sports. Case in point, Skylar Diggins. Baby girl went from maybe a couple thousand twitter followers to tens of thousands in Final Four weekend of 2011. Lil Wayne gave her a shoutout and BOOM! Instant fame. Since ESPN exclusively owns the rights to the Women's games, they should've milked that Skylar Diggins cow to improve their ratings, but I don't think they did it the best they could have.

Last thing a sport, or woman, who is trying to be respected on a meritorious level is going to do is stoop back to the predictable sex symbol level. They're professionals, not VH1 reality show stars
 
Exactly, DatZ.

And dland, I do liken the comaprison to NBA & WNBA to a comparison between your local high school football team and your local NFL team. You wouldn't watch the local HS team and think "If only they were as good as the NFL guys, then I'd watch more. They'd be so much more entertaining."

Thing is, YES, women are GENERAL weaker and slower than men, but that doesn't matter, because they're not competing against each other (and sea manup, you completely missed the point I was getting at when I said they're not competing against each other). Your local HS team is never going to play your local NFL team. The WNBA champs are never going to play the NBA champs... and it's a good thing, because the girls would get washed. Four of my favorite current WNBAers are CP3, Taurasi, Catchings, and Moore... and they would get "DEBACLED" by, say... Lebron, Kobe, CP3, and Durant. I shudder at the thought.
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But that shouldn't be a factor in my enjoyment of the WNBA, because that will never happen; they're not in competition with each other.

Lightweight Champion, no, of course the choice for men over women isn't ALWAYS made, but enough for anyone to realize that the interest in women's sports... ANY of them... is simply not there, and that's not because of the WNBA's marketing. Yes, RyGuy, the WNBA has certainly done theirselves no favors by their marketing, but the problem 'acceptance of women's sports' goes much deeper than one league's marketing of itself.
 
Last thing a sport, or woman, who is trying to be respected on a meritorious level is going to do is stoop back to the predictable sex symbol level. They're professionals, not VH1 reality show stars

But as polarizing as athletes such as Lolo Jones and Anna Kournikova are/were, their looks helped viewership of their sport when they were competing.
 
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