Business side of European Football? vol. no draft

Regarding how fans react to selling their favorite player, unlike America,  the TEAM will always be bigger than the player no matter who you are. The transaction is good as long as its beneficial to the team. 
i.e. United booed Beckham at Old Trafford today on his first touch even though the overall reception for the rest of the game was well.  Also, AC selling Kaka' to Real to help out their financial crisis.
 
Originally Posted by xblaze23

I heart Ashley Cole

I heart his wife (or ex-wife or whatever).
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Originally Posted by swyftdahoe

Originally Posted by xblaze23

I heart Ashley Cole

I heart his wife (or ex-wife or whatever).
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Cheryl Tweedy 
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  What's she doing with that douche?  
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Anyway, good read on NIMFH's article.  And like what wttm said, deep-rooted European fans will also put the club before the player.  If LBJ leaves Cleveland, you can bet the Cavs would lose a bunch of their fanbase as well.  I got a kick out of the Beckham reception.  It was nice to see everyone giving him a proper ovation, but he was showered with boos as soon as he touched the ball, and rightfully so.  In all fairness, it wasn't a hatred or hostile boo... you could hear some of the fans laughing right after the boos.  

So NIMFH, with Madrid's early exit from the European Cup, what are the financial ramifications for the club?  
 
Losing this early is not as crucial for Madrid's finances in the short term as it would be for a smaller, yet elite team such as Sevilla who publicly admitted that making the quarterfinals would get their yearly balance in the green. Madrid is missing out on some €18M just off of prize money, which admittedly isn't that much when you have a €400M budget.

The ramifications here are more long term. The hit to the club's image could be hard to quantify immediately. Florentino was criticized ferociously for investing nearly €300M out of heartache in the midst of the worst financial crisis that Europe has seen in 80 years, and the only way to legitimize the brutal expenses was to replicate what Barça did last season. Many casual fans will now turn their nose on Madrid, given that their pharaonic largesse will likely result in not a damn thing besides humiliating defeats. For a team whose financial strategy consists of buying big names and marketing the hell out of them, this could be very damaging. The Madrid media spent the summer hailing Madrid as champions already, and their fanbase pretty much demanded the three titles. Right now the fans are out for blood, clamoring for Pellegrini to get canned, and Higuain (only their single best player this season, point blank), Kaka, Lass, Mahmadou Diarra and Raul to be sent packing. Florentino's antics have turned the fanbase against the team, and that is hard to revert.

You should also be aware that this fan discontent has been brewing for a while. Real Madrid's basketball squad took up the same strategy of tearing the market up and paying silly amounts of money in transfers this offseason as a reaction to Barça winning the Spanish League and making the EuroLeague Final 4. The results so far have been an 0-4 record against Barcelona, including a 22-point loss at home and a 19-point defeat in the Spanish Cup title game.
 
There is to much money in football at the moment and soon it will all explode. Witness how Serie A used to be the league to play in for the best players but now its the Prem
 
solidsnake, you do have a point, but you also have to consider the direction that Calcio took that ultimately led to its falling off. Premier League squads aren't running to sign name players ignoring their age, like Serie A teams took to doing a few years ago. You don't see ludicrous signings in Premier League like Lazio's signing Gaizka Mendieta for €48M or Alvaro Recoba earning €12M to be a good but not great player for Inter. In fact, you see Premiership clubs selling players at excellent profit. Also, as far as anyone knows, the Premiership isn't knee deep in Mafia issues like Calcio was before (and probably after) MoggiGate. The problem wasn't that there was too much money, it was the source of the money.

To update my answer on how Madrid's elimination will affect the club's economy, SPORT, the leading sports newspaper in Barcelona, published a study by a financial firm whose name I can't recall off the top of my head saying that Madrid will lose around €60M. When you consider the team's debt hovers around the €500M mark, that's a big hit to take.
 
lol Using Sport or EMD as a source for Real Madrid anything is just as effective as reading AS or Marca for Barcelona.
 
As crazy as it sounds...it looks like Real with go through another 'rebuilding' phase in the summer. This team spent all that money to win the UCL, not to win La Liga. I think that now we'll see a handful of new faces joining Real in the summer, including 1-2 big name attackers.

Maybe next season we see...

--------------Higuian-------------
Ribery-----Kaka------Ronaldo
----------Xabi---Lass-----------

With some changes in defence. Yesterday once again reiterated that you cant just buy titles in this sport. Just ask Chelsea who have been coming up short in the UCL for years despite spending tons of cash.
 
Well, when it comes to financial information, SPORT is actually to be trusted because its parent company is in the finances side and cannot risk printing BS. The sporting information is what's biased. And in fact, when they're not busy campaigning for referee crusades against Barça, As is quite on point too even if it's regarding their rival. As a little fun fact, Sport's main editorial comment comes from a non-Catalan, Emilio Perez de Rosas, while As head honcho Tomas Guasch is an Espanyol fan from Barcelona. As you can see, business is business.

Tevez, I don't think Higuain or Lass make it to next season in Madrid. I wouldn't be surprised to see Higuain wind up at ManCity, because Florentino has been stiffing him all season in his contract talks and now all the hate coming at the kid from every Madrid-leaning media outlet is pretty intense. This is the same president that gave up on Makelele, the glue to the highly succesful early-decade Madrid squads, because of media pressures. Given that Laporta is leaving Barcelona this summer, his and Florentino's non-aggression pact is off and both rivals might resume pursuing each other's players. Toure is known to be unhappy with Barça's brass, and Guardiola is a huge fan of Higuain who also happens to be Messi's closest friend outside of Barcelona. The situation might be too convenient.

I doubt Ribery ends up playing for Madrid either. The only reason this rumor has the wings it has is because Alain Migliaccio, his agent, is a known scumbag who pushes his client around to the highest bidder every summer if he has the chance, and we know who that usually is. It's even worse than Boras, because in Boras' case he makes his money off a cut of his client's money and therefore also vies for the player's best financial interest. In European soccer agents receive a signing bonus when they deliver a player, so the best deal for the agent isn't always the best deal for the athlete. This being said, the talk in sports radio (Spanish, pro-Madrid sports radio at that, not the Catalan media with a Barça bias) is that Sandro Rosell's more than likely arrival as Barcelona's president could sway both Ribery and Cesc towards Camp Nou. Rosell is seen as a guru of sorts. He signed Ronaldinho to Nike, then brought him and Eto'o to Barcelona before falling out with Laporta and leaving his management position. He is known to have excellent relations with both Migliaccio and Darren Dein, Cesc's agent/confidant.
 
I don't know why more of the big stars don't get it that Real ain't going nowhere with their buy everyone approach.

It's hilarious to see Van der Vaart being benched at the start of the year and is now a go to guy.
 
why do the owners accept the relegation format. its not like the Oakland As will get relegated to Tripe A, and replace their farm team in Sacremento
 
Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Originally Posted by Ziostilon


Lets bring it back to this side of the continent, you can't have Jerry Jones every year just snap up the top 10 prospects and just pay each of them boat loads of money.

Then, theres this transfer thing.  Lets say the Steelers are in need of money after that Super Bowl win in 06'.  and the ******** pay a big sum of dollars to the Steelers to get Big Ben.  Steelers nation would be up in roar, and riot in Pittsburgh

How is it those leagues can still operate?  I grew up with Manchester United being at the top, and many years afterwards they're still a top team in the league.  Just ridiculous
All this applies to MLB. Sure they have a draft, but poorer teams basically end up being farm systems for the richer teams. When's the last time the Pirates or Royals were good for a significant period? When is the last time the Yankees were bad for a significant period? 

Kind of late,  but plenty of times  less rich clubs have  built  great teams.
The a's were  a great franchise  for much of the 80's and the early 00s
The rangers/rays are doing it now.

Angels are  disappointing  considering  their salaried
 
Originally Posted by Ziostilon

why do the owners accept the relegation format. its not like the Oakland As will get relegated to Tripe A, and replace their farm team in Sacremento
There's a lot of money to be made in the promotion/relegation juggle too, don't be fooled it is a business after all
 
Off topic, but how do you guys follow your club teams? I'm a fan of soccer, but I just can't get into any of the club teams, whether its Serie A or EPL because i never know when the games or televised and on what channels. Any advice to resolve this conflict like websites I should check out or television channels to keep an eye on?
 
As a United supporter i'm spoiled with the luxury of almost being sure every week the game either being on Fox Soccer, ESPN, or on SETANTA (Now FOX soccer plus)

You also have GOLtv, ESPNdeportes and FOX espanol . You always have streams up online as well for free, you just have to look around for em
 
Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

why do the owners accept the relegation format. its not like the Oakland As will get relegated to Tripe A, and replace their farm team in Sacremento
There's a lot of money to be made in the promotion/relegation juggle too, don't be fooled it is a business after all
so you get money for getting relegated too?  or just promotion?  think about it, where does this money come from
 
if they divert the relegation/promotion prize money and the big transfer fees to player salaries. Would player salaries not increase ten-fold

With the NFL Free Agency going on right now. and you see the money that teams are handing out.
 
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