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Wonder Woman will pass Civil War domestically by the end of this week ($408m). :pimp:

Crazy box office run man

Basically took 1 hero to obliterate a gimmick team up movie and IM3..damn
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RIP MCU
 
really liking this one-off elseworld banner DC is going to be making, makes room for other stories to be told without being tied to the universe though I do understand the confusion it may cause

but if it will lead to stories like Kingdom Come and All-Star Superman and Red Son and Long Halloween then I am all for it

Will Warner Bros. Confuse Fans With Two Joker Stories — and Its New DC Banner?

Glenn Ficarra and John Requa, the executive producers of NBC hit “This Is Us,” are in advanced talks to produce an untitled “Suicide Squad” spinoff based on Batman supervillains the Joker and Harley Quinn, played by Jared Leto and Margot Robbie. Then there’s a solo movie in development, possibly directed by “The Hangover’s” Todd Phillips, that dives into the Joker’s backstory, except Leto won’t play him here.

Potentially even more confusing: These Jokers won’t have anything to do with each other. That means two actors will be putting their own spins on Batman’s archnemesis. Educating audiences could prove tricky.

After all, the approach is radically different from how Marvel has comprehensively planned its cinematic universe under studio president Kevin Feige. Marvel films feature a consistent “house style,” making it difficult for directors to leave their unique imprint on a movie. Director Edgar Wright dropped out of helming Marvel’s “Ant-Man” over creative differences.

Phillips’ planned Joker film would be the first under a new, untitled DC banner that won’t be constrained by the continuity that holds together DC’s extended universe, featuring Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash and other characters. The banner is intended to give the studio the chance to expand the canon with unusual story angles, according to those with knowledge. A spokesman for Warner’s declined to comment for this story.

DC’s approach appears to be more in line with Warner’s reputation as an auteur-driven studio that has spawned distinctive superhero adaptations like Christopher Nolan’s “Dark Knight.” As the studio has labored to distinguish itself from Marvel, it has been actively entertaining pitches from directors around town. The likes of James Wan and Robert Zemeckis have made the trek to Burbank to sell the studio on their vision for the spandex set. Or take the case of Joss Whedon. The “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” creator is now developing a “Batgirl” movie for DC; it’s one that the studio hadn’t planned on doing until Whedon confessed to his love of Barbara Gordon and her masked alter ego.

Whedon’s film, however, isn’t part of the new DC banner, which is expected to create one-off films set outside the larger-budget tentpoles of DC’s current cinematic universe.

Some DC fans are intrigued, but the new banner has also inspired some negative reactions, in part because DC’s critical and commercial film hits have been uneven. “Wonder Woman” became a cultural milestone this summer, topping $800 million worldwide and bringing the studio a much-needed smash that critics and audiences alike embraced. Meanwhile “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and “Suicide Squad” grossed $873 million and $746 million, respectively, but suffered from scathing reviews. DC will try to build on the success of “Wonder Woman” with next fall’s “Justice League.”

“‘Wonder Woman’ catapulted the brand,” said Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst with comScore. “Why not change the rules a little bit in an effort not only to create their own identity but to have even greater success in the marketplace?”

While Marvel has arguably set the gold standard, there’s a case to be made in going your own way rather than imitating the competition. By granting directors more control, DC is signaling that it’s less focused on creating an all-encompassing universe where films have to fit together like puzzle pieces and more concerned with keeping the genre fresh for audiences.

“‘Wonder Woman’ and ‘Spider-Man’ and ‘Guardians’ all really confirm that it’s not just about putting something out,” said Shawn Robbins, chief analyst at BoxOffice.com. “It’s more about taking a fresh approach.”

Directors may find themselves on a tighter leash if DC’s bets don’t play off. As Slashfilm.com’s Peter Sciretta notes, pleasing die-hard fans is great, but blockbusters are built by reaching the broadest possible audience. “Great performances, complicated writing — that’s what audiences want,” he said. “It’s maybe not what fanboys want, but I think that when we see more auteurs doing genre films at that level, we’re going to see bigger box office numbers.”



also interesting to note in that article, WB had no plans for a Batgirl film til Whedon convinced them

Whedon has also gotten writers credit for JL but no directors credit... yet(?)


another interesting thing is that Shazam has started pre-production




SS2 won't go into production til next year due to Will Smiths schedule




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Yeah im not feeling that. Why focus on making a joker origin when they didn't get him right in SS?
 
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JOKER Movie May Feature A Bullied Younger Take On The Classic BATMAN Villain

Former MMA fighter Brendan Schaub is friends with Phillips’ agent Todd Feldman, and while appearing on The Joe Rogan Experience (of all places) he revealed the following:

“My boy Todd Feldman put this together with Todd Phillips. It’s dark. It’s like a dark Joker. As a kid, he had a permanent smile and everyone made fun of him. It’s like on the streets of Brooklyn. It’s super dark and real.”
 
Yeah im not feeling that. Why focus on making a joker origin when they didn't get him right in SS?
Cuz this origin won't be a part of the crappy DCEU.

Think of it like this for the bright side, doubtful this portrayal of the Joker will be worse than Leto's in SS.
 
I am hopeful that it could be loosely based on the Killing Joke, the animated film kind of killed that by putting a Batgirl arc in it to make it longer.
 
Cuz this origin won't be a part of the scrappy DCEU.

Think of it like this for the bright side, doubtful this portrayal of the Joker will be worse than Leto's in SS.

I just don't think this project shouldn't happen. The odds of making a succesful JOKER origin movie are very low. It's smart for them to try to make solo movies outside of the DCEU, I just think they should wait until they get their main films right first, because they still have a lot to proove.
 
I just don't think this project shouldn't happen. The odds of making a succesful JOKER origin movie are very low. It's smart for them to try to make solo movies outside of the DCEU, I just think they should wait until they get their main films right first, because they still have a lot to proove.
They don't give a ****.

The movies made money to allow for this. That's all they care about.

I have no faith this will be good as of now. They'd need A-list names across the board. I'm talking even award winning sound mixers let alone director and cast.

Its w/e though. Unless they gear this as a horror flick this movie will probably make money regardless just like the agit DCEU movies and then the next thing we'll be hearing about is a Joker franchise, sequel where he's the Iranian ambassador.
to be fair, they've had more hits when they aren't trying to build a universe
And that's another thing, the way things were looking if all the rumors ended up true I could easily see them ditching the shared universe for a bit via a crisis in the story.
 
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I know. I'm not against the non universe related movies. Just against a origin film for Joker.
 
So what's up with that whole "Battfleck's solo isn't part of the DCeU" thing

It is a part of the DCEU. Reeves clarified everything. He meant that the film only takes place in the Batman universe. It's not like BVS. It's still the same characters and actors established in the DCEU, but it won't have any bearing on something like a future JL sequel.
 
Kingdom Come and Red Son could make awesome movies, but lets get these DCEU movies, like you know, a Man of Steel sequel, happening first.

Something tells me the non-DCEU films are out of Johns' and Berg's hands. "You guys did great with Wonder Woman and turning around the universe. We like how you're orchestrating the right creatives with the right properties, but we still want to do wild ****. So we're just gonna do our own thing over here."
 
Kingdom Come and Red Son could make awesome movies, but lets get these DCEU movies, like you know, a Man of Steel sequel, happening first.
That's the thing, a whole other studio will be handling it.

WB basically hedging their bets. On some just in case JL sucks and doesnt do a billi lets go back to the Batman well.

I got no doubt some director similar to what Whedon did is gonna get them to do a non-DCEU Batman Beyond flick :pimp:

Ed Harris for old man Bruce Wayne :smokin
 
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