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[pmatic]

He didn't have it tonight, physically.

It showed in his lack of speed getting up and down the floor compared to last night.

 

[essential1]

I personally never said anything about trading Pau...thats really stupid due to there being nothing of value equal to him
It wouldnt benefit us in anyway...but believe me, the clutch Pau that we all knew and loved on those finals runs is gone

He has been gone for a minute and we all no it...its the same story...thats his weakness, he shrinks...its like he's playing
while drowning mentally & physically. But only in those high basketball situations...I would describe him as unreliable

Everybody knows we are keeping him not because we wont trade him, but cause we cant trade him
Theres nothing much out there equal..its kind of a limbo

And its not just this performance...its a collection...ive been paying attention to this for awhile now trust me

the way he just defers to kobe and the rest so much just irks me...the way he just goes away from any contact on the defensive end....
uhh

I really dont trust him in the playoffs guys...mark my words

There's packages out there that make us a deeper team..

Sure there is maybe 2 PFs that are better. And maybe a couple that would be acceptable replacements.


But doesn't mean there isn't a team that would offer up a few bench players for Pau. There's always that route. Hell I'd eat Boozer's contract if we could swing Deng over as well.

 

[CP1708]

Could you all at least wait til Nash gets back? Can we do that?


MB was a bigger, badder issue. That's clean now. D'An is a better fit, and when all our pieces are on the floor, then we'll see what's what.

Nash is someone that could have helped get those guys some easier shots, help get them into the game more, plus fed Kobe and Meeks if they were still gonna be the only ones doin anything.

Not to mention, Nash can score if we need him too, and he lets Kobe play off the ball more, meaning, less energy spent.


Man, you all gonna freak after what Memphis and Dallas boutta do to us.

 

[mosk33toe]

Although Pau has been shooting a low percentage and making a bit more mistakes, you have to realize he is also averaging the most minutes on the team.

He just came off a grueling summer where he played for Spain, and they played him hard. Obviously he isn't like Kobe with that amazing engine, or built like Dwight, he's not as strong as these people and his fatigue is going to show more often than not.

There has been a lot of pressure put on this guy, and sadly sometimes he can't handle it well, with that said I think he's the best option we have at PF trade or not, he knows the system he has an amazing rapport with Kobe, let him get Steve Nash back and a week under D'antoni's system and i'm sure he'll be fine.

Go Lakers

 

[essential1]

Could you all at least wait til Nash gets back? Can we do that?


MB was a bigger, badder issue. That's clean now. D'An is a better fit, and when all our pieces are on the floor, then we'll see what's what.

Nash is someone that could have helped get those guys some easier shots, help get them into the game more, plus fed Kobe and Meeks if they were still gonna be the only ones doin anything.

Not to mention, Nash can score if we need him too, and he lets Kobe play off the ball more, meaning, less energy spent.


Man, you all gonna freak after what Memphis and Dallas boutta do to us.

Damnit If we can call for Fire Mike Brown 4 months before he coaches a game here, I can call for Pau being traded

I'll give Pau some time.. But if he plays the way he has so far this season for another 2 months.. It's time to pull the trigger.


In hindsight.. Why couldn't we just have fired Mike Brown last year, and hired D'Antoni. So we could have kept Ramon as a backup *Goes to time machine*

 

[knightngale]

Gasol isn't smart now.
Ok, have at it ya'll.
ACB, Kings with a "statement" game tonight huh bruh? We should start preppin for 2013-14 now, no way we can recover from this statement game, in our division......

He may be smart outside of the court but not in it.

Here come the "everything is ok and everyone overreacts" people now. You guys have surely been right the past 2 season.

Everything will be all right.

 

[00david00]

Although Pau has been shooting a low percentage and making a bit more mistakes, you have to realize he is also averaging the most minutes on the team.

He just came off a grueling summer where he played for Spain, and they played him hard. Obviously he isn't like Kobe with that amazing engine, or built like Dwight, he's not as strong as these people and his fatigue is going to show more often than not.

There has been a lot of pressure put on this guy, and sadly sometimes he can't handle it well, with that said I think he's the best option we have at PF trade or not, he knows the system he has an amazing rapport with Kobe, let him get Steve Nash back and a week under D'antoni's system and i'm sure he'll be fine.

Go Lakers

at the end of the day he gets paid by the lakers... playing hard for spain shouldn't be an excuse to play at the level he does now.

 

[mosk33toe]

at the end of the day he gets paid by the lakers... playing hard for spain shouldn't be an excuse to play at the level he does now.

Of course it isn't an excuse, but I mean it is what it is.

Dwight Howard is a NBA Player, the best center in the league, a person whose job is to excel at basketball, there is no excuse he should be shooting lower than 50% from the free throw line, but it happens.

Obviously Pau should not be using Spain as an excuse (I don't think he has this is me speculating) but I mean i'm just trying to understand his funk that he is in right now

 

[essential1]

Minutes managing has been bad.. So I'll give Pau that.

Sure Jamison has sucked. Badly. He doesn't deserve to be on the floor.

But if Pau is getting tired. You have to increase Hill to about 20 minutes.. And you have to get Jamison at 10 at PF

Or give Sacre a few meaningless minutes in the second quarter.

Pau should be no higher than 33 minutes per game.

Kobe can, but under a necessity. Maybe once a week in a close game. But then he's back to the 33-34 cap for the rest of the week.

Howard has to be at 36

Metta should be at 30 (Regardless of if he's playing well).

How hard is it to sit a guy 3 - 4:30 per quarter.. Hell you could bit it in the bud, by just sitting them 6-7 minutes twice.


For example why would you put Meeks out there on a SF. That's just stupid. Play Kobe 6 minutes for Metta. And if you are so against Jamison at the 3 (as D'Antoni seems to be for good reason) put Hill at the 3, and make it irrelevant on offense, but keep it a focal point for defense.. I understand D'Antoni's coaching style, but no excuse for Meeks to ever be a SF for any stretch of time. And if we really have so much trouble with minutes.. Go out and sign someone, there are 4-5 decent free agents left. Go out and sign one, and fix the damn rotation.

 

[mosk33toe]

Minutes managing has been bad.. So I'll give Pau that.
Sure Jamison has sucked. Badly. He doesn't deserve to be on the floor.
But if Pau is getting tired. You have to increase Hill to about 20 minutes.. And you have to get Jamison at 10 at PF
Or give Sacre a few meaningless minutes in the second quarter.
Pau should be no higher than 33 minutes per game.
Kobe can, but under a necessity.
Howard has to be at 36
Metta should be at 30 (Regardless of if he's playing well).
How hard is it to sit a guy 4:30 per quarter..

I fully agree with you.

I'm saying lets sacrafice some wins if we have to to get this bench going.

Jamison wasn't brought here to be a bench warmer, Sacre can be decent for a few minutes, Meeks should have been playing a while ago.

It boggles my mind how Steve Blake, Troy Murphy, McBOB, would get extended minutes and players like Goudeluck, Ebanks, Morris, wouldn't get anything last year, this year is proving no different, put some of our bench players in jesus

 

[essential1]

Minutes managing has been bad.. So I'll give Pau that.
Sure Jamison has sucked. Badly. He doesn't deserve to be on the floor.
But if Pau is getting tired. You have to increase Hill to about 20 minutes.. And you have to get Jamison at 10 at PF
Or give Sacre a few meaningless minutes in the second quarter.
Pau should be no higher than 33 minutes per game.
Kobe can, but under a necessity.
Howard has to be at 36
Metta should be at 30 (Regardless of if he's playing well).
How hard is it to sit a guy 4:30 per quarter..

I fully agree with you.

I'm saying lets sacrafice some wins if we have to to get this bench going.

Jamison wasn't brought here to be a bench warmer, Sacre can be decent for a few minutes, Meeks should have been playing a while ago.

It boggles my mind how Steve Blake, Troy Murphy, McBOB, would get extended minutes and players like Goudeluck, Ebanks, Morris, wouldn't get anything last year, this year is proving no different, put some of our bench players in jesus

It's not even sacrificing wins at least in my opinion... I don't think it would even sacrifice a game.

(Leave out PG, because none of us know how it will look when Nash and Blake come back in terms of minutes.. Thankfully D'Antoni knows Nash needs to be under 30)


SG: Meeks should get 18-20 minutes. Give Kobe a handful at SF (4-6 mins. He can handle it)
SF: Please go out and sign someone for the love of Pete. Ebanks isn't going to do much, as much as we want him to. I trust him the least out of anyone on this team. Get Metta to 28 minutes. And tell him play balls to the wall defense for 28 minutes. Play as tough a Defense as he can. New guy gets 14-16 mins. Kobe gets 4-6 mins.
PF: Play Pau 18-20 minutes with Dwight (1st Quarter and 4th quarter). Have Jamison & Hill play 14-15 minutes each.
C: Play Howard 35. Play Pau 13.

Jamison with Howard
Hill with Pau

So you talked me from the ledge of trading Pau. But if we are not going to handle rotations better, we might as well trade him, because he's not the guy for this team

 

[fearless]

when TFMB complained about him, dude told us to shut up. now they crying about Pau, want to get rid of him. Irony.

 

[essential1]

Bulls are shopping Richard Hamilton.. Weakest at PG without Rose.
Timberwolves shopping Derrick Williams, want a solidified veteran. Incredibly weak at SG.

Mitch jump in and take Derrick Williams

 

[goldmember]

Fire Mike D'Antoni!!!!!!

 

[geoff2005]

Fire Mike D'Antoni!!!!!!

TFMD!!!!


hahah, i didnt watch the game. why was Dwight stats so low?

 

[kobe8is]

TFMD!!!!
hahah, i didnt watch the game. why was Dwight stats so low?

X2

 

[essential1]

TFMD!!!!
hahah, i didnt watch the game. why was Dwight stats so low?

X2

He didn't shoot much. And didn't get to the line much.... Why? Beats the hell out of me.

 

[essential1]

Kobe on Jim Buss & Magic

Last week, Lakers icon Magic Johnson said, “I don't believe in Jim Buss,” pointing to the hiring of Brown in the first place and to the decision to pass on Phil Jackson in order to hire Mike D’Antoni. Bryant respectfully disagreed. “I value Magic's opinion, as we all do,” Bryant told Rome. “He's been the face of this franchise for so many years. I mean, he's the Laker legend. … But I can only speak from personal experience and my dealings with Jim; he's been great with me outside of the Mike Brown hiring which I didn't know anything about. You know everything else we have just kind of been in constant communications, constant dialogue about it. "He's made some incredible moves this offseason and hasn't been afraid to pull the trigger on some trades that at first initially might raise an eyebrow but he believes in doing the right thing by the organization and so far it seems to be working.” Sporting News

 

[lynchpin33]

Looking at the game last nite I noticed a few things:

-Dwight Howard is STILL laughing and smiling and playing all the time imo, I thought being on a team with Kobe he would get somewhat serious.
-Looking at the Laker bench with all those coaches last nite, reminded me of the Dallas Maverick teams when Cuban first took over and had a million assistant coaches sitting on the sideline. Like do you really need ALL of those coaches.
-I was always in the camp that Mike Brown would be gone before Veteran's day and he was and I feel like D'Antoni will be gone before Valentine's day.

 

[ps2child]

Hol' up... Dwight attempted 4 shots in 41 mins

This. But man I'm always afraid for him to shoot cause he hasnt proven himself at the bonus line.

 

[essential1]

Hol' up... Dwight attempted 4 shots in 41 mins

This. But man I'm always afraid for him to shot cause he hasnt proven himself at the bonus line.

He's not getting his elbow up.. They were talking about his FT problems.. And a lot of it was his elbow would be too low. He needed to keep his elbow higher on his FTs when he does that he shoots better from the line.

 

[ps2child]

He's not getting his elbow up.. They were talking about his FT problems.. And a lot of it was his elbow would be too low. He needed to keep his elbow higher on his FTs when he does that he shoots better from the line.

I just don't understand why its so hard for some big men to shot free throws. They are in a pro league. They have all these intensive workouts to build endurance and strength. But what has this man been doing that he cant shoot free throws? He was like this in ORL wasnt he? I mean he's out there shooting 3pointers while warming up(at least thats what I see).

 

[sb]

mitch is a great GM. if he were (not saying he will) to trade pau it would be when steve nash comes back and spoon feeds him 20 pts and is averaging 20 and 10. alot of people dont believe me when i say the lakers winning the title this year rests on steve nash. if he can be 80 percent of what he was in phoenix no one in the nba can stop the lakers because nash knows how to utilize his skills based on the players around him. kobe and dwight will get theirs. nash however can make pau and metta look like superstars. let nash come back and let the core starting line-up play 3 weeks. until then a fair analysis of trading pau cannot be made. my 2 cents.

 

[essential1]

He's not getting his elbow up.. They were talking about his FT problems.. And a lot of it was his elbow would be too low. He needed to keep his elbow higher on his FTs when he does that he shoots better from the line.

I just don't understand why its so hard for some big men to shot free throws. They are in a pro league. They have all these intensive workouts to build endurance and strength. But what has this man been doing that he cant shoot free throws? He was like this in ORL wasnt he? I mean he's out there shooting 3pointers while warming up(at least thats what I see).

You're not wrong....

There's so many reasons as to why he's a poor FT shooter. Including him being a natural lefty.

Someone has to make him get in the routine he does in practice where he shoots 80%.

 

[VinMillerHearn58]

Looking at the game last nite I noticed a few things:

-Dwight Howard is STILL laughing and smiling and playing all the time imo, I thought being on a team with Kobe he would get somewhat serious.
-Looking at the Laker bench with all those coaches last nite, reminded me of the Dallas Maverick teams when Cuban first took over and had a million assistant coaches sitting on the sideline. Like do you really need ALL of those coaches.
-I was always in the camp that Mike Brown would be gone before Veteran's day and he was and I feel like D'Antoni will be gone before Valentine's day.

Really? We just got the guy as a head coach. Your really giving this dude about 2 months before he gets the can? Not going to happen.