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[ill 949]

Hero ball? Really?
Dwight walk???
I'd hate to see this team w/ no Dwight, Kobe disappearing in the 4th, and Bynum on the sideline w/ a Klump fro

Yea really. I'm not talking about the last couple 3s that he took because we needed those. im talkikng about contested long 2s that he takes during the course of the game. even when he makes them, it takes teammates out of the game. and they perform worse because of it because they dont feel involved. then when they start sucking kobe feels the need to take over even more. its a bad cycle and anyone who balls knows this ****

 

[naija nitemare]

Let's not go as far as saying let Dwight walk, now.

Please don't even start that. We need that boy here for years to come.

THE GUY ISNT EVEN 100 PERCENT!!

 

[laker4lifeman]

We're all surrounded by idiots.

 

[essential1]

And here's the perfect example...

The Nuggets shot 43.7% tonight.

That would rank as the 8th best Defensive %.... It's 1.1% better than our normal percentage (we rank 17th)

Bulls 43.2% on the season.. They give up 91.5ppg.

We just gave up 112 on .5% difference.

We can talk about how bad our defense is.. And it is.. But there is a system problem that makes an average defense look worse.

 

[ill 949]

What makes you so sure dwight WILL recover 100%? look at LJ and his back injury. tmac wasnt the same after his. and it's especially troublesome for a guy like dwight who's already limited skill-wise and relies heavily on his athleticism. he's not the elite force you and i want him to be and i have my concerns giving him the max for 5 more years if he shows little to no improvement healthwise.

 

[essential1]

We would talk about Dwight still after he averages 15 & 15 over the last 5 games.

He just had a 14 & 26 night with 4 blocks.

 

[daddyrabbit251]

Yea really. I'm not talking about the last couple 3s that he took because we needed those. im talkikng about contested long 2s that he takes during the course of the game. even when he makes them, it takes teammates out of the game. and they perform worse because of it because they dont feel involved. then when they start sucking kobe feels the need to take over even more. its a bad cycle and anyone who balls knows this ****

Man what game did u just watch? The offense was fine until the 4th WHEN NOBODY EXCEPT KOBE could make a basket. Aside from the last two threes and a fadeaway his baskets were in the paint.

I swear man Kobe just needs to take a game off so this team can get drilled by 25

 

[laker4lifeman]

We are never going to be a good defensive team but the boxing out and 2nd chance points is

 

[naija nitemare]

We would talk about Dwight still after he averages 15 & 15 over the last 5 games.

He just had a 14 & 26 night with 4 blocks.

Bless you.

 

[ill 949]

Man what game did u just watch? The offense was fine until the 4th WHEN NOBODY EXCEPT KOBE could make a basket. Aside from the last two threes and a fadeaway his baskets were in the paint.
I swear man Kobe just needs to take a game off so this team can get drilled by 25

dawg. im not talking about THIS GAME ONLY. his whole style of play has been a reason (among many others) for our struggle. ive been the biggest kobe fan and supporter for the past 17 years. but his style of play isnt condusive to a winning team culture. it worked before because he was THAT good but at his advanced age it aint gon fly no more. keep judging based on individual games and miss the big picture homie.

you dont see that pau is scared to death every time he makes a mistake because he knows kobe gon death stare him? you dont think if kobe kept going to his teammates time after time EVEN AFTER they miss and EVEN if we lose some games because of it, that we'd be a better team in the long run? goddamn son

 

[toru okada]

So Lakers lost by 7. Shot 19 less shots.
So I looked at other games..
11/2 vs. Clipper.. Clippers 84 shots. Lakers 68 shots. Lost by 10.
11/13 vs. Spurs... Spurs 90 shots. Lakers 74 shots. Lost by 2.
11/21 @ Kings.. Kings 81 shots. Lakers 65 shots. Lost by 16.
12/4 @ Rockets. Rockets 101 shots. Lakers 83 shots. Lost by 2.
12/11 @ Cavs.. Cavs 84 shots. Lakers 75. Lost by 6.
12/26 @ Nuggets... Nuggets 94 shots. Lakers 83 shots. Lost by 12.
1/6 vs. Nuggets... Nuggets 101 shots. Lakers 82 shots. Lost by 7..
MDA gets MDA'd by other teams.. It's time for him to slow up the pace. So teams are not shooting 101 times a game. We held them to 43%. That's actually solid.
But when a team shoots 101 times, you can hold them to 40% they'll still get 100 points..

They shoot 40% on 100 shots that's still 80-90 pts alone not including FTs

WOW. This says it all. They have gotten out shot by 11+ sometimes 15+ times in those losses...

D'antoni needs to change his system but we all know he won't.

#FireD'Antoni 

 

[essential1]

The problem isn't Dwight... It's not Nash or Kobe. It's not MWP... Hell I may be convinced it's not even Pau anymore.

It's 3 things. In this order.

1. Defense (And we are not a great defensive team. That's true. But even on nights we hold them to solid % they still get 112.. I think any other coach could turn this current roster to a slightly above average defense.. Just by running a horns offense. Slowing the pace. Which would then slow the opponent, improving our defense. We go so fast pace, the only way for opponents to counter is meeting fire with fire and exposing our issues.)
2. Turnovers (which you can deduce from the offense having to play perfectly, or else we will lose.)
3. Depth (we can never rest our players because we only have 1 guy who we can count on nightly. And another guy who possesses the talent to do it, but not the consistency


We won't. But if we pulled the plug on MDA, and do anything else for coaching, I think we'd be better off for it.

Hell I'd even take Brown back over MDA. No way he'd continue to run the Princeton if we struggle. And we'd at least be playing some form of defense.

Jerry Sloan is definitely the best guy (despite my gripe with how people rate him). But again... It's not going to happen.

 

[daddyrabbit251]

Jamario Moon plays for the d-fenders

 

[pmatic]

The problem isn't Dwight... It's not Nash or Kobe. It's not MWP... Hell I may be convinced it's not even Pau anymore.

It's 3 things. In this order.

1. Defense (And we are not a great defensive team. That's true. But even on nights we hold them to solid % they still get 112.. I think any other coach could turn this current roster to a slightly above average defense)
2. Turnovers (which you can deduce from the offense having to play perfectly, or else we will lose.)
3. Depth (we can never rest our players because we only have 1 guy who we can count on nightly. And another guy who possesses the talent to do it, but not the consistency


We won't. But if we pulled the plug on MDA, and do anything else for coaching, I think we'd be better off for it.

Hell I'd even take Brown back over MDA. No way he'd continue to run the Princeton if we struggles. And we'd at least be playing some form of defense.

All three things you keyed on were issues last year under Brownie.

Nothing is going to change.

 

[Coupé It]

The problem isn't Dwight... It's not Nash or Kobe. It's not MWP... Hell I may be convinced it's not even Pau anymore.
It's 3 things. In this order.
1. Defense (And we are not a great defensive team. That's true. But even on nights we hold them to solid % they still get 112.. I think any other coach could turn this current roster to a slightly above average defense.. Just by running a horns offense. Slowing the pace. Which would then slow the opponent, improving our defense. We go so fast pace, the only way for opponents to counter is meeting fire with fire and exposing our issues.)
2. Turnovers (which you can deduce from the offense having to play perfectly, or else we will lose.)
3. Depth (we can never rest our players because we only have 1 guy who we can count on nightly. And another guy who possesses the talent to do it, but not the consistency
We won't. But if we pulled the plug on MDA, and do anything else for coaching, I think we'd be better off for it.
Hell I'd even take Brown back over MDA. No way he'd continue to run the Princeton if we struggle. And we'd at least be playing some form of defense.
Jerry Sloan is definitely the best guy (despite my gripe with how people rate him). But again... It's not going to happen.

Damn

D'Antoni ran my Knicks to the ground last year. This Laker team is so similar is so similar to what the Knicks went thru last year.

But no F'in way the Lakers get rid of D'Antoni this season.

 

[essential1]

The problem isn't Dwight... It's not Nash or Kobe. It's not MWP... Hell I may be convinced it's not even Pau anymore.

It's 3 things. In this order.

1. Defense (And we are not a great defensive team. That's true. But even on nights we hold them to solid % they still get 112.. I think any other coach could turn this current roster to a slightly above average defense)
2. Turnovers (which you can deduce from the offense having to play perfectly, or else we will lose.)
3. Depth (we can never rest our players because we only have 1 guy who we can count on nightly. And another guy who possesses the talent to do it, but not the consistency


We won't. But if we pulled the plug on MDA, and do anything else for coaching, I think we'd be better off for it.

Hell I'd even take Brown back over MDA. No way he'd continue to run the Princeton if we struggles. And we'd at least be playing some form of defense.

All three things you keyed on were issues last year under Brownie.

Nothing is going to change.

And yet with a worse team we were 62% WIn last year.. Which if we played at least to that measure with a better team we'd be 20-13 sitting in the 6th seed.

 

[darthska]

[quote name="DaddyRabbit251"]I swear man Kobe just needs to take a game off so this team can get drilled by 25 [/quote]But in the last 3 seasons, we have a winning record in the games Kobe has had to miss.

 

[essential1]

Damn

D'Antoni ran my Knicks to the ground last year. This Laker team is so similar is so similar to what the Knicks went thru last year.

But no F'in way the Lakers get rid of D'Antoni this season.

Oh I know they won't get rid of him..

And again.. Same types of fans. I felt your pain bro.

I'm not sure if D'Antoni can't teach Defense, or if his system is completely incompatible with defense. I think it's both.

But I honestly think we'd be better had we just kept Brown, and let him frustrate everyone.

It's just not the right roster to go into a gun dual with. It's not even the right offense for Nash to run anymore.

What kind of scheme is just hoisting up shot for shot.

It's just ridiculously dumb coaching.

Even with all that it could work. If he slowed it down by a couple possessions per quarter. That alone would decrease turnover. Make the team feel less on edge, and probably even improve our defense slightly because our pace will slow the other team.

 

[ill 949]

Pringles is allergic to adjusting the pace. the more i see him get frustrated on the sideline looknig like hes trying so hard in his mind to figure out the problem the more it reminds me of brown towards the end of his tenure. THE PROBLEM IS YOU YOU DUMB ****

 

[pmatic]

The problem isn't Dwight... It's not Nash or Kobe. It's not MWP... Hell I may be convinced it's not even Pau anymore.

It's 3 things. In this order.

1. Defense (And we are not a great defensive team. That's true. But even on nights we hold them to solid % they still get 112.. I think any other coach could turn this current roster to a slightly above average defense)
2. Turnovers (which you can deduce from the offense having to play perfectly, or else we will lose.)
3. Depth (we can never rest our players because we only have 1 guy who we can count on nightly. And another guy who possesses the talent to do it, but not the consistency


We won't. But if we pulled the plug on MDA, and do anything else for coaching, I think we'd be better off for it.

Hell I'd even take Brown back over MDA. No way he'd continue to run the Princeton if we struggles. And we'd at least be playing some form of defense.

All three things you keyed on were issues last year under Brownie.

Nothing is going to change.

And yet with a worse team we were 62% WIn last year.. Which if we played at least to that measure with a better team we'd be 20-13 sitting in the 6th seed.

There is nothing that makes me believe this year's team is better than last year's team besides the "names". It's sad really.

 

[moiety]

Just copped this jacket

 

[Coupé It]

Oh I know they won't get rid of him..
And again.. Same types of fans. I felt your pain bro.
I'm not sure if D'Antoni can't teach Defense, or if his system is completely incompatible with defense. I think it's both.
But I honestly think we'd be better had we just kept Brown, and let him frustrate everyone.
It's just not the right roster to go into a gun dual with. It's not even the right offense for Nash to run anymore.
What kind of scheme is just hoisting up shot for shot.
It's just ridiculously dumb coaching.
Even with all that it could work. If he slowed it down by a couple possessions per quarter. That alone would decrease turnover. Make the team feel less on edge, and probably even improve our defense slightly because our pace will slow the other team.

One of the biggest problems for the Lakers on Defense is when the Lakers play speedy PG's. They get abused, especially Nash.

But their is so many more issues on Defense the Lakers have, age is the other big one.

Some rumors saying Pau can be traded for Tyreke Evans, that can help (if he's healthy).

 

[essential1]

Oh I know they won't get rid of him..
And again.. Same types of fans. I felt your pain bro.
I'm not sure if D'Antoni can't teach Defense, or if his system is completely incompatible with defense. I think it's both.
But I honestly think we'd be better had we just kept Brown, and let him frustrate everyone.
It's just not the right roster to go into a gun dual with. It's not even the right offense for Nash to run anymore.
What kind of scheme is just hoisting up shot for shot.
It's just ridiculously dumb coaching.
Even with all that it could work. If he slowed it down by a couple possessions per quarter. That alone would decrease turnover. Make the team feel less on edge, and probably even improve our defense slightly because our pace will slow the other team.

One of the biggest problems for the Lakers on Defense is when the Lakers play speedy PG's. They get abused, especially Nash.

But their is so many more issues on Defense the Lakers have, age is the other big one.

Some rumors saying Pau can be traded for Tyreke Evans, that can help (if he's healthy).

I agree PG is definitely causing us fits.. But when hasn't it? Honestly I am serious, because I don't remember.

But if a team has a speedy PG (Thunder, Nuggets, Clippers) you would think you wouldn't run uptempo for that game because you are honestly just playing into their hand.

Any coach worth anything could see that. I think the pace should be much slower. Not only does that help offensively because we can then run more well defined plays. But slowing up the pace, makes defense much easier for an older team.

I haven't seen the Pau for Tyreke rumors ... It'd have to be a lot of other moving pieces because of the contract disparity.. Probably Pau + 2 small contract fillers for Reke, Thornton & Hayes.. By the way Chuck Hayes is 29? Dude had me fooled for 37..

 

[acbboyz84]

Just got back from the game. Man they turn the ball over so much. It was real loud when Kobe hit those 3s at the end.

Too bad we couldn't get the W.

Nash got owned by Ty Lawson speed on so many possessions.

And no tacos smh. Pretty fun game though

 

[thachosen123]

Man what game did u just watch? The offense was fine until the 4th WHEN NOBODY EXCEPT KOBE could make a basket. Aside from the last two threes and a fadeaway his baskets were in the paint.
I swear man Kobe just needs to take a game off so this team can get drilled by 25

dawg. im not talking about THIS GAME ONLY. his whole style of play has been a reason (among many others) for our struggle. ive been the biggest kobe fan and supporter for the past 17 years. but his style of play isnt condusive to a winning team culture. it worked before because he was THAT good but at his advanced age it aint gon fly no more. keep judging based on individual games and miss the big picture homie.

you dont see that pau is scared to death every time he makes a mistake because he knows kobe gon death stare him? you dont think if kobe kept going to his teammates time after time EVEN AFTER they miss and EVEN if we lose some games because of it, that we'd be a better team in the long run? goddamn son

I agree with all this, I'd rather not open up that can of worms right now so I'll just leave it at this, what some people see as kobe "bailing out the team", isn't really what it seems