Did Jordan play in a watered down era ?

[ogbobbyjohnson773]

 

[the dauqs]

Originally Posted by illwill24

Teams in the 90's knew how to play great fundamental basketball too. Nowadays its about crossovers and dunks, most players in that era can make an open jumper, play good team defense, good half court offense...a lot of teams that are praised nowadays can't do any of those things

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[the dauqs]

Originally Posted by illwill24

Teams in the 90's knew how to play great fundamental basketball too. Nowadays its about crossovers and dunks, most players in that era can make an open jumper, play good team defense, good half court offense...a lot of teams that are praised nowadays can't do any of those things

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[loveofthegame916]

Originally Posted by Peep Game

LOLWUT!?!?!?!?! So you saying that Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Shaq,
Sam Perkins, Hakeem Olajuwon and emerging Kobe, A.I., KG, and McGrady were watered down??? I could add loads of other
player on that list, but man, you serious????

Dont forget Mitch Richmond, John Starks, Hershey Hawkins, Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullin, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Dikembe Mutumbo, Latrell Sprewell, Charles Barkley, Clyde Drexler, Joe Dumars, Glen Rice, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Jeff Hornacek, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, and Allan Houston.

 

[loveofthegame916]

Originally Posted by Peep Game

LOLWUT!?!?!?!?! So you saying that Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Shaq,
Sam Perkins, Hakeem Olajuwon and emerging Kobe, A.I., KG, and McGrady were watered down??? I could add loads of other
player on that list, but man, you serious????

Dont forget Mitch Richmond, John Starks, Hershey Hawkins, Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullin, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Dikembe Mutumbo, Latrell Sprewell, Charles Barkley, Clyde Drexler, Joe Dumars, Glen Rice, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Jeff Hornacek, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, and Allan Houston.

 

[loveofthegame916]

Originally Posted by Put em up

Originally Posted by Vsano

LOL at young people telling the 90's league was water down based on stats, then there is this "no elite guard in the 90's" reasoning. For people like me who grew up with 90's basketball, we know this thread don't give justice. We respect the great & remarkable talents of today, but to say that the 90's basketball is watered down, now that's disrespectful.

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[loveofthegame916]

Originally Posted by Put em up

Originally Posted by Vsano

LOL at young people telling the 90's league was water down based on stats, then there is this "no elite guard in the 90's" reasoning. For people like me who grew up with 90's basketball, we know this thread don't give justice. We respect the great & remarkable talents of today, but to say that the 90's basketball is watered down, now that's disrespectful.

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anybody in this thread 21 or younger needs to exit.

  

I'm 22, can I stay?

 

[got shoes]

Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers

Originally Posted by Peep Game

LOLWUT!?!?!?!?! So you saying that Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Shaq,
Sam Perkins, Hakeem Olajuwon and emerging Kobe, A.I., KG, and McGrady were watered down??? I could add loads of other
player on that list, but man, you serious????

which one of these names doesn't belong with the rest of them?

 

[got shoes]

Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers

Originally Posted by Peep Game

LOLWUT!?!?!?!?! So you saying that Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Shaq,
Sam Perkins, Hakeem Olajuwon and emerging Kobe, A.I., KG, and McGrady were watered down??? I could add loads of other
player on that list, but man, you serious????

which one of these names doesn't belong with the rest of them?

 

[vsano]

Expansion might have watered down the era but quality of talent wise, the 90's league was far more solid & has more substance than today. Despite the absence of expansion in today's league, it has also watered down in a sense that basketball is now fragile & soft, talents have no variety & almost identical, great players merging into an all star team to ensure a ring (dynamic duos are gone), overpaid rookies from high school, fundamentals getting lost, money talks money talks, etc...

 

[vsano]

Expansion might have watered down the era but quality of talent wise, the 90's league was far more solid & has more substance than today. Despite the absence of expansion in today's league, it has also watered down in a sense that basketball is now fragile & soft, talents have no variety & almost identical, great players merging into an all star team to ensure a ring (dynamic duos are gone), overpaid rookies from high school, fundamentals getting lost, money talks money talks, etc...

 

[thecoolestguyuno]

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

Originally Posted by TheCoolestGuyUNo

Apples & Oranges....I'm 25 BTW

This isn't an apples & oranges argument. We're talking about the effects of expansion (among other things) in the league in a particular era. When you add six new teams over the course of 8 seasons, the league becomes watered down.  The talent level at the top didn'tdip and nobody should be saying one era's stars was better than another. The problem is while the top tier talent remained high, there was influx of bottom-feeders that diluted the league. Add in ridiculous rookie contracts and the beginning of the era of overpaid role players and borderline All-Stars, and the league took a hit OVERALL. The W-L records from '96-'98 back it all up.

Hence "Apples & Oranges"

Your point....I missed it

 

[thecoolestguyuno]

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

Originally Posted by TheCoolestGuyUNo

Apples & Oranges....I'm 25 BTW

This isn't an apples & oranges argument. We're talking about the effects of expansion (among other things) in the league in a particular era. When you add six new teams over the course of 8 seasons, the league becomes watered down.  The talent level at the top didn'tdip and nobody should be saying one era's stars was better than another. The problem is while the top tier talent remained high, there was influx of bottom-feeders that diluted the league. Add in ridiculous rookie contracts and the beginning of the era of overpaid role players and borderline All-Stars, and the league took a hit OVERALL. The W-L records from '96-'98 back it all up.

Hence "Apples & Oranges"

Your point....I missed it

 

[aztec06jr]

International play is better....it's a smaller sample size but it's the easiest thing I can point to when I say that basketball is evolving.

Every sport has evolved. The competition is getting better. Sure, prime Agassi/MJ/Gretzky/etc would still be exceptional performers....but we're talking about top to bottom.

 

[aztec06jr]

International play is better....it's a smaller sample size but it's the easiest thing I can point to when I say that basketball is evolving.

Every sport has evolved. The competition is getting better. Sure, prime Agassi/MJ/Gretzky/etc would still be exceptional performers....but we're talking about top to bottom.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Originally Posted by illwill24

Teams in the 90's knew how to play great fundamental basketball too. Nowadays its about crossovers and dunks, most players in that era can make an open jumper, play good team defense, good half court offense...a lot of teams that are praised nowadays can't do any of those things

Which teams that are praised today can't do any of those things?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Originally Posted by illwill24

Teams in the 90's knew how to play great fundamental basketball too. Nowadays its about crossovers and dunks, most players in that era can make an open jumper, play good team defense, good half court offense...a lot of teams that are praised nowadays can't do any of those things

Which teams that are praised today can't do any of those things?