Elon Musk trying to buy Twitter (edit: deal has been finalized)

[osh kosh bosh]

Also again twitter should just clone substack and put articles on twitter.

Who wants to read 40 tweet long stories?

Matt tiabbi is already on substack I see.

I'm sure since Elon are boys now he'd come over to a twitter substack competitor no problem.

 

[whywesteppin]

Das it? That was the big announcement?

Well, one big name might go down from today's events, but it's not Biden.

 

[IATT]

Meanwhile multiple people are having this issue for some reason…

 

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[Frankie Blue]

Twitter will never last with someone so politically involved in charge. The guy basically spent 44 billion to be a right wing troll and try to OwN tHe LiBs.

 

[letsgetit22]

Twitter will never last with someone so politically involved in charge. The guy basically spent 44 billion to be a right wing troll and try to OwN tHe LiBs

All while jeopardizing his other business to do so. Libs got these dudes in shambles

 

[RustyShackleford]

This fool really thinks he dropped the story of the year

Mans outchea on these e-streets like...

Sad

 

[Nike Jordan]

Matt Taibbi is just tryin' to feel some mink.

 

[ALNotSure]

Twitter is now just a cesspool of anger. I can’t imagine having that much money and being that unsettled, petty and unhappy. His biggest advertiser will be the pillow guy soon.

 

[IATT]

Twitter will never last with someone so politically involved in charge. The guy basically spent 44 billion to be a right wing troll and try to OwN tHe LiBs.

 

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[finessence]

Missing the point

None missed. This country was built of hate and racism…. The world itself has been festering with it before social media, how is Elon responsible for the mindset of 8+ billion people?


I don’t even care for Elon but that’s false to scapegoat dude like that. It’s the world we live in.

Twitter promotes all type of nonsense and it was doing so before Elon got a hold of it.

 

[jape]

None missed. This country was built of hate and racism…. The world itself has been festering with it before social media, how is Elon responsible for the mindset of 8+ billion people?


I don’t even care for Elon but that’s false to scapegoat dude like that. It’s the world we live in.

Twitter promotes all type of nonsense and it was doing so before Elon got a hold of it.

you are missing the point. no one said any of this

 

[finessence]

you are missing the point. no one said any of this

That NY times tweet said it. Basically trying to hold Elon responsible for the increase in hate speech on Twitter, I disagreed….

I didn’t say anyone in this thread said it. I based it off the tweet.

 

[Comparison Ford]

That NY times tweet said it. Basically trying to hold Elon responsible for the increase in hate speech on Twitter, I disagreed….

I didn’t say anyone in this thread said it. I based it off the tweet.

So what do you blame for the increase in hate speech on Twitter?

 

[ogbobbyjohnson773]

lets go ahead and just call it twitler

 

[finessence]

Elon took the helm a few months ago, and all of the sudden there’s an increase?
Twitters been terrible since before Trump, I’ve literally watched it in real time. I got twitter first in 2009.

Twitter users are declining, twitters most active users are declining, yet…. The hate speech is increasing?

So basically the people who were ALREADY tweeting nonsense, just all of a sudden started tweeting more? You cannot blame Elon/Twitter on SOCIETY. Twitter reflects society.

But hey, Elon is responsible for these idiotic adults.

 

[finessence]

These researchers say anything, and y’all eat it up. Twitter was just dying a few months ago, but now hate speech is up. The same people spewing hateful stuff on Reddit, IG, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. are doing the same across all platforms.

Both of these articles are less than 5 months old. If the growth and user ship are declining, then who the heck is responsible for the increase in hate speech? The people who we’re ALREADY spewing hateful stuff? New members? Yeah right

Exclusive: Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show

The heaviest tweeters, vital to its business, have been in "absolute decline" since the pandemic began, an internal researcher wrote. It underscores a challenge for Elon Musk.

www.reuters.com

Twitter may have lost more than a million users since Elon Musk took over

Estimates from Bot Sentinel suggest that more than 875,000 users deactivated their accounts between October 27 and November 1, while half a million more were suspended.

www.technologyreview.com

 

[gry60]

Hate speech is prevalent on all social media platforms. Elon’s presence ain’t responsible for it….

The point is that Twitter and Reddit are the closest thing we have to a virtual public square, and those who control these platforms are the gatekeepers and regulators of accepted behaviors in these spaces.

Again the moderation thing is a red herring.

Most people don't tweet,

Most people just follow their friends, a few news outlets/reporter's, and some celebrities.

Most people don't attend public speeches, rallies, protests, and debates. This argument has never been used to loosen the standards of behavior and speech that regulate such events. Twitter and Reddit are the closest thing we have to a virtual public square, and the fact that they are immaterial (or used by a minority of the population) isn't enough of an argument to tolerate the loosening of speech standards there.

The argument that few people participate in Twitter activities is even weaker when you realize that access to the tweets is not restricted to the users of the platform. Like real-life speech transcripts and rally pamphlets, tweets and tweet screenshots get routinely shared among the larger public to support or discredit a point.

 

[1995]

None missed. This country was built of hate and racism…. The world itself has been festering with it before social media, how is Elon responsible for the mindset of 8+ billion people?


I don’t even care for Elon but that’s false to scapegoat dude like that. It’s the world we live in.

Twitter promotes all type of nonsense and it was doing so before Elon got a hold of it.

You are all over the place and still missing the point

I know people like to give credit to Elon for things he didn't invent, but nobody has ever said that he's responsible for all the hate speech in the world

 

[finessence]

The point is that Twitter and Reddit are the closest thing we have to a virtual public square, and those who control these platforms are the gatekeepers and regulators of accepted behaviors in these spaces.


Most people don't attend public speeches, rallies, protests, and debates. This argument has never been used to loosen the standards of behavior and speech that regulate such events. Twitter and Reddit are the closest thing we have to a virtual public square, and the fact that they are immaterial (or used by a minority of the population) isn't enough of an argument to tolerate the loosening of speech standards there.

The argument that few people participate in Twitter activities is even weaker when you realize that access to the tweets is not restricted to the users of the platform. Like real-life speech transcripts and rally pamphlets, tweets and tweet screenshots get routinely shared among the larger public to support or discredit a point.

The premise of what I’m saying is you CANNOT hold Elon responsible… for what’s always, and will continue to happen on Twitter whether he’s the CEO or not. That platform has always been vile. From violent videos, pornography, candor, insensitive dialogues, racism, etc.

The company is over 14 years old. It’s been a popular platform for 10 years running…. Elon took over 2-3 months ago, but now he’s to blame?

Twitter was a cesspool BEFORE Elon.

 

[finessence]

You are all over the place and still missing the point

I know people like to give credit to Elon for things he didn't invent, but nobody has ever said that he's responsible for all the hate speech in the world

All over the place? Bro, that NY Times tweet/article is blaming Elon for something that’s always been a part of Twitter. If that’s not defamation, I don’t know what to tell you. That article isn’t true. That article is irresponsible. I’m not even a Elon fan, as I’ve stated before. Twitter has been that kind of platform wellll before Elon arrived. I don’t know what else to tell you.

 

[gry60]

The premise of what I’m saying is you CANNOT hold Elon responsible

You can't hold him responsible for people's behavior, but you CAN hold him responsible for NOT regulating it on his platform, or for regulating it in a way that encourage hate speech.