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Where Do You Rank LOGAN Among CBMs?

  • Best CBM to Date

    Votes: 13 16.7%
  • Easily Top 5

    Votes: 28 35.9%
  • Top 10, Maybe Top 15

    Votes: 29 37.2%
  • Mediocre at Best

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Not Good at All

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Total voters
    78
Are X-23's claws adamantium too?
Looked like bone claws in the trailer but I didn't give it a good stare/look to be sure.


Adding comics to the movieverse is such a random and weird easter egg.

That works in a Deadpool movie but just seems dumb in this X-Men universe they setup.

Is Wolverine going to comment on why the artist has him wearing a mask, blue and yellow tights?

I hope they don't think Wolverine can break the 4th wall just because Deadpool was successful.
He specifically says like a quarter of the stuff in the comics actually happened. That leaves the door open to say no we never wore costumes, they made that part up.
 
Smh. We need that spoiler discussion again. :nerd:

I'm glad it's coming out a week earlier where I'm at though
 
Adding comics to the movieverse is such a random and weird easter egg.

That works in a Deadpool movie but just seems dumb in this X-Men universe they setup.

Is Wolverine going to comment on why the artist has him wearing a mask, blue and yellow tights?

I hope they don't think Wolverine can break the 4th wall just because Deadpool was successful.

Having X-MEN comics in the movies isn't weird or even off to me. In today's world seeing Obama in comics isn't weird. In fact, it's happened, so if X-MEN were actually real in our world, I could totally see comics about them.

One thing to remember, this is the new timeline after DOFP. It's a possibility that in this timeline, they did wear costumes/uniforms like in the comics. It's probably not as Wolverine hinted to in the trailer, but it's still a possibility that the costumes weren't what he was referring to.
 
Having X-MEN comics in the movies isn't weird or even off to me. In today's world seeing Obama in comics isn't weird. In fact, it's happened, so if X-MEN were actually real in our world, I could totally see comics about them.

One thing to remember, this is the new timeline after DOFP. It's a possibility that in this timeline, they did wear costumes/uniforms like in the comics. It's probably not as Wolverine hinted to in the trailer, but it's still a possibility that the costumes weren't what he was referring to.


Sad that we haven't seen him in the og costume, but Deadpool gets its in the first movie with Negasonic. And it looked good. I hope they learn with this New Mutants franchise they got in the works.
 
Why Mangold placed the movie in 2029

“There’s an epilogue scene in Days of Future Past which is 2024, or 2023, something like that. I just wanted to get far enough past. My goal was real simple: It was to pick a time where I had enough elbow room that I was clear of existing entanglements. Part of the way I think these films stop being fresh (these films being franchise comic book movies) is when you find yourself making essentially a television series with $200 million episodes where you’re literally just picking up where the last one left off and you’re making a mini-series. Then, it’s impossible to do something fresh, meaning essentially you’re just a director on the 14th episode of a television show picking up where the last one left off and people are going to be really startled by any discontinuity or changes.”

http://screenrant.com/logan-2029-setting-timeline-x-men/
 
Definitely premature, but this could go down as the greatest comic book film of all time. The bar is The Dark Knight or The Winter Soldier, either way, from the trailer, it has potential. If the movie is every bit as good as the trailer, it'll be in the conversation
 
Definitely premature, but this could go down as the greatest comic book film of all time. The bar is The Dark Knight or The Winter Soldier, either way, from the trailer, it has potential. If the movie is every bit as good as the trailer, it'll be in the conversation

:lol:
 
If and when they ever reboot Wolverine, I think the first film should be shot like the Revenant, with him in the wilderness and stuff. Think that would be kinda cool for an origin film
 
I'm not doubting it'll be a good or great film. Ive said that due to its simplicity and small scale, I believe it'll do great. Greatest cbm of all time candidate? Nah. Not off of these trailers, that arent that good to begin with. First was cool, but this was ok.
 
With Jackman leaving, I wonder if this will be the conclusion to this world and story they've been telling and they start fresh with Deadpool and X-Force.
 
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Definitely premature, but this could go down as the greatest comic book film of all time.
:wow: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Most people just refuse to believe Fox can make a really good comic book film (rightfully so). Logan has potential. It won't do MCU numbers but it can be a critically acclaimed film
Well they kinda just did with Deadpool.

More so they can't make good Marvel movies for the most part.

I dug Kick-*** and Kingsman.
If and when they ever reboot Wolverine, I think the first film should be shot like the Revenant, with him in the wilderness and stuff. Think that would be kinda cool for an origin film
Now this would be a cool idea. Not completely adapting Origins 2 but a mix of a few other things.
With Jackman leaving, I wonder if this will be the conclusion to this world and story they've been telling and they start fresh with Deadpool and X-Force.
One can hope but they foolishly and slavishly are stuck to it for some odd reason.

DC managed to just reboot their movies for decades.
 
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The guys over at io9 saw the first 40 minutes of the film and have a quick recap if anyone is interested










[COLOR=#red]If Its First 40 Minutes Are Any Indication, Logan Is Both Depressing and Fantastic[/COLOR]

Logan starts with the titular character sleeping in his car, just in case you wondered how bad things have gotten for the X-Man. He wakes to find men trying to carjack his limo, and has to fight them off. But this isn’t the berserker Logan we’ve seen before, he’s tired; he doesn’t want to fight at all. He’s clearly only doing it because he needs the car. And he’s also not healing as well as he should—when his claws come out, the extend slowly, painfully.

And after removing one of the attackers’ arms and putting his claws in another man’s head—not the only time we’ll see that move, going by the international trailer—Logan gets away. But he doesn’t get away clean, as the shots of him bleeding in a bathroom make clear.

Then we see the reason Logan was willing to fight for the car is because the car is his source of income; Logan is a limo driver in this future. He’s also illegally buying drugs from a hospital source when he meets a man named Donald Pierce, played by Boyd Holbrook. (Pierce has the mechanical arm of his comic book counterpart, but it doesn’t seem like the Hellfire Club is playing a part in this movie’s version. At least, not from what we saw.)

Pierce says that he found Logan because, well, the kind of violence left behind from the opening fight—and the way it was reported—let him know the Wolverine was around. He also asks if a woman has found Logan, and Logan says no. But while Logan is on a job at a funeral, he’s approached by a woman begging for his help. She claims to be the mother of a girl named Laura (Dafne Keen), and offers Logan a lot of money if he will drive them to North Dakota, where she has friends that will get them safety.

Meanwhile, in Mexico, Logan has teamed up with Caliban (Stephen Merchant) to keep an off-his-rocker Charles Xavier (Patrick Stewart) from a) being found b) having a “seizure” which will break the brains of everyone close enough to feel it, which is why Logan was procuring medicine earlier. He’s been giving Xavier the pills to prevent the seizure.

Charles is being kept in a overturned storage container, which keeps his psychic outbursts relatively contained. Also, it has a ton of holes in it to make for stunning visuals as pinpricks of light illuminate the sadly diminished Xavier, who can barely move and is barely lucid. Also, he curses a lot. This Xavier loves the f-bomb, just saying.

Xavier also says there’s another mutant out there, which Logan denies. He says they’re all gone now. Xavier also says they’re waiting in New York, to which Logan says that New York was a long time ago. Referring, I’m assuming, to the events of the first movie,

The reason Logan’s so desperate for money is clear: he wants to buy a boat and get himself and Charles on it, away from everything. And he’s probably going to leave Caliban behind, in case you were wondering how limited Logan’s connections to others has become.

Logan goes to the hotel where Laura and her “mother” are, but the woman is dead, so Laura joins him on a drive back to the hideaway in Mexico. (There’s also a glimpse of an X-Men comic book in the room.) Unfortunately for Logan’s desire to stay out of everything, Pierce’s minions have followed Laura. And, complicating any plan to give Laura back, Xavier has taken an immediate liking to the young girl. He says that she’s the mutant that he was talking about, and that she’s “like” Logan. Interestingly, while the girl never speaks out loud, Xavier’s downright chatty.

Even though Logan disposed of one minion sent after them—and tasked Caliban with hiding the body—Pierce arrives soon after, demanding the girl. Logan tells him he has no idea where the girl is and that Xavier’s dead, but Pierce clearly knows better. Pierce finds Xavier and says that he’s the most wanted octogenarian on the planet. Xavier replies that he’s a nonagenarian.( And he probably says ****, just cause this is that kind of movie.)

That’s when the real surprise of this movie happens: Laura kicks the *** of the people sent after her. She walks out with a severed head in her arms and, with claws and a healing factor of her own, demolishes Pierce’s men. Where Logan’s fighting is old and slow, she fights fast and precise.

The whole time, Xavier is telling Logan they can’t leave Laura behind, begging in a feeble voice. And, I’ll tell you, it really feels like there’s a 50 percent chance that Logan will still leave the girl behind, just to avoid the trouble. He doesn’t, of course, but Jackson does a marvelous job showing you how much Logan wants to escape, and leave everything behind. But he doesn’t, and Logan, Laura, and Xavier escape by driving the limo through a fence.


Logan is dark. Logan is gritty. Logan is all washed-out colors, sand and rust. And for all of that, it works. This is a movie that’s telling a standalone story, but mining our knowledge and affection for the characters and actors to do it. None of this would be as affecting if we hadn’t seen Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman in these roles for so long. That’s what makes the bearded, limo-driving Logan, one willing to abandon a mutant girl, a “disappointment,” as Xavier’s semi-addledly describes him early on. And Stewart’s Xavier, who has been a stalwart father figure for over a decade, is so diminished that it hurts to see him. It is unspeakably depressing.

Both actors seem determined to make what is likely their last big outing as these characters as good as possible, and it shows.

But the newcomers are just as good. Boyd Holbrook’s Pierce has got a drawling sarcasm and dickish grin that makes you both like him and long for Logan to kill him. And Dafne Keen is seriously amazing as Laura/X-23. For a child actor who doesn’t get to do much speaking and did, we were told, a lot of her own stunts, she’s steely, and weird, and still, somehow, a child. She’s everything this character, who gets Logan and Xavier started on their last heroic quest, needs to be. All the actors, the action, and look of the movie make it a delight to watch.

Logan looks great. And what we saw only makes us want to see Logan, Xavier and Laura’s road trip all the more.
 
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