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This doesn't surprise me....Jordan is an old-school blue collared player
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i've been buying less and less jordan products and shoes over the years. not so much because of who he is as a person but more so because of how crappy the quality is on the majority of the shoes i've purchased. i just can't justify supporting that, i know i'm just one person but i'm content with my own personal boycott of sorts. i won't try and change anyone elses opinions im just worried about how i feel in that aspect.Originally Posted by dtb00201
I really don't know why I still support this guys products. Not because of anything nba lockout related, but because I just feel like Mike is an overall bad person. I almost feel like it's in bad taste on my part to spend my hard earned money on a guy who treats people the way he does. Sometimes I feel like selling all of my Jordans. That may be an overreaction, but I've thought about this several times.
There are lots of stories about Jordan being an a-hole during his playing days (mostly off-court stuff) but these two things are not relevant examples.Originally Posted by WiiDZerO
This is no surprise to me. People always said Jordan was an a-hole as a player (shooting free throws wit his eyes closed, the push before the last shot, etc.) so why should he be any different as an owner?
we didn't have all the media and there wasn't stuff like twitter where we knew pretty much everything our favorite athletes did. if there was, i'm sure the mj steve kerr fight would've been a much bigger story and guys like stacey king (who was a bum) probably would've voiced their frustration out some way and it would've got out there for more to see. hell the bill cartwright incident where he threatned to break jordans legs if he kept telling teammates not to pass him the ball would've been all over espn and other sites today. one thing i'll give mike credit for however is that he knew how to work the media, smile and give them the answers they want to hear and they'll have your back, but if you come across as not media friendly those same people will break you down.Originally Posted by UltraPromoman
This whole thing just makes me wonder why don't/didn't more people notice sooner? Mike's built his image to the point where people ignore what he does and says. That goes back to his playing days and that's how he got away with playing Yojimbo in the whole lockout thing until now. Mike could be a role model when it comes to hard work, self-motivation, pursuing excellence, and marketing. Leadership/teamwork is dicey since at times he got real out of pocket with teammates at a level past when they just messed up at basketball. Business-wise, we all know about the human rights and the product quality concerns. MJ isn't exactly Isiah Thomas dirty but he's not the unassailable Golden Boy that people have hyped up to be.
How about this?Originally Posted by chrisMatiC413
im real curious as to the repercussions of all this. theres already been a statement by an agent swearing he'll never send another one of his players to Charlotte. i wonder what the Jordan Brand players' reaction will be; i wonder if any of them are bitter enough to leave the "team". and a second thought: if JB loses its gusto, Team players drop, sales decline, and relevance fades ...what kind of stunts would JB do to get back sales- a return of quality materials, or maybe the return of 'Nike Air'?
yeah im just daydreaming, but what else is there to do without any nba basketball
The Information Age factor isn't quite as a big a factor but that's a valid point. Those stories were dropping during his playing days and we can't forget how The Jordan Rules really exposed him. Major outlets like Sports Illustrated really blew open the doors on the shady side of the Jordan Brand before it became an independent entity. That shadiness really got shine when the score on exactly how bad sweatshops are got out back in the 97/98. Nike/JB had been catching flak before that out. Most businesses put sweatshops on the same level as sexual harassment when that dropped. People were/are so caught up in the hype that he can openly get out of pocket. Iverson used to have that same kind of sway on people too. He went down because he didn't know how to work the media and teams and was lazy to boot.Originally Posted by Rex Ryan
we didn't have all the media and there wasn't stuff like twitter where we knew pretty much everything our favorite athletes did. if there was, i'm sure the mj steve kerr fight would've been a much bigger story and guys like stacey king (who was a bum) probably would've voiced their frustration out some way and it would've got out there for more to see. hell the bill cartwright incident where he threatned to break jordans legs if he kept telling teammates not to pass him the ball would've been all over espn and other sites today. one thing i'll give mike credit for however is that he knew how to work the media, smile and give them the answers they want to hear and they'll have your back, but if you come across as not media friendly those same people will break you down.Originally Posted by UltraPromoman
This whole thing just makes me wonder why don't/didn't more people notice sooner? Mike's built his image to the point where people ignore what he does and says. That goes back to his playing days and that's how he got away with playing Yojimbo in the whole lockout thing until now. Mike could be a role model when it comes to hard work, self-motivation, pursuing excellence, and marketing. Leadership/teamwork is dicey since at times he got real out of pocket with teammates at a level past when they just messed up at basketball. Business-wise, we all know about the human rights and the product quality concerns. MJ isn't exactly Isiah Thomas dirty but he's not the unassailable Golden Boy that people have hyped up to be.