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I guess you don't notice but theres always west coast rapper threads but always get thrown to the bottom. They're on page 2 within hours becausethere's a bunch of threads on wack %!* max b for example.
How come NY gets all the love in hip hop?
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I guess you don't notice but theres always west coast rapper threads but always get thrown to the bottom. They're on page 2 within hours becausethere's a bunch of threads on wack %!* max b for example.
phillypac
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[h3]How come NY gets all the love in hip hop?[/h3]
cause dudes from NYC are known for riding dudes just cause they from NYC
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NY cats get the love cuz they started it...period
with that said
still put on for my coast
with that said
still put on for my coast
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And with that vid^^^^
I say Kurupt is underrated.
I say Kurupt is underrated.
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I agree. PE paved the way for NWA, in turn NWA paved the way for gangsta rap. I really can't even compare East and West though I swearit's just two different types of music to me all together. Like I couldn't even try to compare 36 Chambers to Doggy Style or the Chronic. Other thanthe "rap" genre, they are nothing alike to me.
I can't hate on the East, I'm from the west and I only bump that east coast $#!#. Lookin at my iTunes the only music from the west I have is DoggyStyle, Pac, and both Chronic albums. Everything else is Wu, Big, Jay, Nas, I even got that soul sonic $#!# on here.
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dudes are biased from both sides and love to ride their respective region as hard as they can nh main example being the guy that would suck vinnie paz'stoes if given the chance.
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JUST ICE
[h1]Just-Ice[/h1][h3]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/h3]
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[/td] [td]This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source. Please help improve this article by introducing appropriate citations of additional sources. (July 2006)[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]Just-Ice[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]Birth name[/th] [td]Joseph Williams[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Born[/th] [td]June 22, 1962(1962-06-22)[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Origin[/th] [td]New York, New York, U.S.[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Genre(s)[/th] [td]Hardcore hip hop
Gangsta rap
Old school hip hop
East Coast Rap
Hip hop[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Years active[/th] [td]1986-present[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Label(s)[/th] [td]Fresh/Sleeping Bag Records
Savage/BMG Records
Warlock Records[/td] [/tr][/table]
Just-Ice (born Joseph Williams Jr.) A former bouncer at punk clubs,Ice was one of the first of the New York MCs to embrace hardcorerap (although he hardly used foul language), and when he burst out of Fort Greene, Brooklyn, as Just-Ice, he gained instant notoriety. Muscle-bound, tattooed, aggressive-he resembled Mike Tyson in more than just looks-and with a mouthful of gold teeth, which was the style inhis neighborhood. His slickly produced debut single "LaToya/Put that Record back On" was an instant hit. However, a more down-and-dirty sound couldbe found on the 12" B-Side track, "That Girl is a !$**," which, for the time, was relatively profane and owed at least some inspiration toDoug E. Fresh and Slick Rick's "La Di Da Di." Released soon afterward, his debut album Back to the Old School proved he was more than just a prettyface. It came out on the independent New York label Fresh/Sleeping Bag label in 1986 and sounded like no other hip-hop album, thanksto his fast, forceful rhymes, Cool DMX's human beatbox, and thedistinctive production of Mantronix's Kurtis Mantronik. Ice was also one of the first MCs to embrace the teachings ofthe Nation of Gods and Earths on arecording, as well as being a pioneer in incorporating dancehall-style toasting intohip-hop rhymes. The album is best known in Hip Hop circles for the single "Cold Gettin' Dumb"; the universally known beat can be found reworkedon Redman's single "It's Like That" featuring K-Solo, from the 1996 album,Muddy Waters.
When he was held by Washington, D.C., police regarding the murder of a drug dealer in 1987 ("Murder, Drugs, and the Rap Star," read a WashingtonPost headline), it gave him an even greater notoriety (he was never charged with the murder). Declaring war on D.C.'s go-go scene andloudly criticizing Run-D.M.C. (very popular in New York at this time), Just-Ice set apattern for many a future hip-hop feud. Little could halt Just-Ice's ascension to hip hop stardom, though the departure of Mantronik from Sleeping Bag was a bad omen. KRS-One stepped in to produce 1987's Kool & Deadly (Justicizms), an album thatswapped Mantronik's hi-tech skills for raw, elemental beats and rhymes. The British and New York public that had so enthusiastically embraced Back tothe Old School was indifferent about this one, and 1989's The Desolate One (with KRS-One back in the producer's seat) was no great improvement. Legendary turntablist Grandmaster Flashproduced Ice's fourth album and last for Fresh/Sleeping Bag, Masterpiece.
By 1990, both Just-Ice and Sleeping Bag appeared to be quickly fading as a new generation of MCs and labels overtook them. He continued to release albums atintervals across the 1990s, but they were on tiny independent labels-although one, 1993's Gun Talk, had major-label distribution and had five ofthe album's 10 cuts produced by Kurtis Mantronik-and were seldom noticed. This was in part due to Just-Ice's gruff exterior. In one instance at the nowdefunct Chicago hip hop radio station WJPC 950 AM, while promoting the album, Just-Ice went on an expletive-filled rant about the state of hip hop. The stationabruptly cut off his mike, stopped the interview, had security escort Just-Ice out of the building, and took the lead single out of its rotation.
Just-Ice was a member of hip-hop super session the Stop the Violence All Stars, which released one single ("Self Destruction") in 1990, whichpromoted peace in the communities.
In recent years, Just Ice released several white label 12-inch singles with production by hip hop superstar producer DJ Premier.
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Cool Just-Ice was a hardcore rapper
NWA made it mainstream, they were the ones who introduced it to the world
NWA made it mainstream, they were the ones who introduced it to the world
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thats all fine and dandy...BUT i was responding to the other dude ignorant to the fact that there was hardcore NYC rap way before NWA
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Kool G Rap wasnt hard in 88 ?
UMC`s werent hard ?
Rakim wasnt hard ?
Krs wasn't hard ?
UMC`s werent hard ?
Rakim wasnt hard ?
Krs wasn't hard ?
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� LoveOfTheGame916 wrote:
NY cats get the love cuz they started it...period
with that said
still put on for my coast
^^^ thats what im talkin about homeboy!!! what that west like hahaha i bang alot�of eastcoast stuff but right now alot of them dudes are highly influencedby�US but cant do it like US:.
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oh i forgot to put this up for u guys ENJOY!!! hahaha:.
phillypac
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great vid
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^^^ "yo turn the speakers up money, yo god, yo I got mad skills....."
that had me
back in the days.......Dogg Pound went hard at the East
kurupt was ill on that album
that being said East Coast>>>>>>>>>>>West........but the West underground is alive and poppin (ie Blu, Zion I, Living Legends,Gift of Gab, Planet Asia, Defari, Dilated, Jurassic, etc.)
that had me
kurupt was ill on that album
that being said East Coast>>>>>>>>>>>West........but the West underground is alive and poppin (ie Blu, Zion I, Living Legends,Gift of Gab, Planet Asia, Defari, Dilated, Jurassic, etc.)
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Damn this thread still going on
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"...Hip-Hop started in the west, Ice Cube bellin' thru the east without a vest..."
oh yeah why is it that the west took shots at ny repeatedly and yet the eastjust sat there and took it.. remember when jay said "its like New York's been soft ever since Snoop came through and crushed the buildings"
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I agree. I'd pick either side over the south any day.
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Lets not 4get Dove Shack..and the G Funk Era..but yea I blame the radios stations for not giving the needed buzz WC artisted need.
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wow that statement is not true at all
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anyone who knows about hip-hop music knows that the West invented Hardcore Gangsta RapOriginally Posted by Untitled
JUST ICE
[h1]Just-Ice[/h1] [h3]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/h3]
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[/td] [td]This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source. Please help improve this article by introducing appropriate citations of additional sources. (July 2006)[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]Just-Ice[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]Birth name[/th] [td]Joseph Williams[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Born[/th] [td]June 22, 1962(1962-06-22)[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Origin[/th] [td]New York, New York, U.S.[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Genre(s)[/th] [td]Hardcore hip hop
Gangsta rap
Old school hip hop
East Coast Rap
Hip hop[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Years active[/th] [td]1986-present[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]Label(s)[/th] [td]Fresh/Sleeping Bag Records
Savage/BMG Records
Warlock Records[/td] [/tr][/table]
Just-Ice (born Joseph Williams Jr.) A former bouncer at punk clubs, Ice was one of the first of the New York MCs to embrace hardcore rap (although he hardly used foul language), and when he burst out of Fort Greene, Brooklyn, as Just-Ice, he gained instant notoriety. Muscle-bound, tattooed, aggressive-he resembled Mike Tyson in more than just looks-and with a mouthful of gold teeth, which was the style in his neighborhood. His slickly produced debut single "LaToya/Put that Record back On" was an instant hit. However, a more down-and-dirty sound could be found on the 12" B-Side track, "That Girl is a !$**," which, for the time, was relatively profane and owed at least some inspiration to Doug E. Fresh and Slick Rick's "La Di Da Di." Released soon afterward, his debut album Back to the Old School proved he was more than just a pretty face. It came out on the independent New York label Fresh/Sleeping Bag label in 1986 and sounded like no other hip-hop album, thanks to his fast, forceful rhymes, Cool DMX's human beatbox, and the distinctive production of Mantronix's Kurtis Mantronik. Ice was also one of the first MCs to embrace the teachings of the Nation of Gods and Earths on a recording, as well as being a pioneer in incorporating dancehall-style toasting into hip-hop rhymes. The album is best known in Hip Hop circles for the single "Cold Gettin' Dumb"; the universally known beat can be found reworked on Redman's single "It's Like That" featuring K-Solo, from the 1996 album, Muddy Waters.
When he was held by Washington, D.C., police regarding the murder of a drug dealer in 1987 ("Murder, Drugs, and the Rap Star," read a Washington Post headline), it gave him an even greater notoriety (he was never charged with the murder). Declaring war on D.C.'s go-go scene and loudly criticizing Run-D.M.C. (very popular in New York at this time), Just-Ice set a pattern for many a future hip-hop feud. Little could halt Just-Ice's ascension to hip hop stardom, though the departure of Mantronik from Sleeping Bag was a bad omen. KRS-One stepped in to produce 1987's Kool & Deadly (Justicizms), an album that swapped Mantronik's hi-tech skills for raw, elemental beats and rhymes. The British and New York public that had so enthusiastically embraced Back to the Old School was indifferent about this one, and 1989's The Desolate One (with KRS-One back in the producer's seat) was no great improvement. Legendary turntablist Grandmaster Flash produced Ice's fourth album and last for Fresh/Sleeping Bag, Masterpiece.
By 1990, both Just-Ice and Sleeping Bag appeared to be quickly fading as a new generation of MCs and labels overtook them. He continued to release albums at intervals across the 1990s, but they were on tiny independent labels-although one, 1993's Gun Talk, had major-label distribution and had five of the album's 10 cuts produced by Kurtis Mantronik-and were seldom noticed. This was in part due to Just-Ice's gruff exterior. In one instance at the now defunct Chicago hip hop radio station WJPC 950 AM, while promoting the album, Just-Ice went on an expletive-filled rant about the state of hip hop. The station abruptly cut off his mike, stopped the interview, had security escort Just-Ice out of the building, and took the lead single out of its rotation.
Just-Ice was a member of hip-hop super session the Stop the Violence All Stars, which released one single ("Self Destruction") in 1990, which promoted peace in the communities.
In recent years, Just Ice released several white label 12-inch singles with production by hip hop superstar producer DJ Premier.
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If it wasnt for Jamaica, there would be no rap.
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i dont think NYC gets all the love these days but during the best era 80s-90s NYC was putting out the best music for the most part.