I hear y'all talking about the G.O.A.T.

[blackmagnus514]

I'm probably the hugest Jay-z apologist anyone'll ever meet. Big fan. Cool dude when I met him....dope all around...

But I've seen the reactions BIG got when he spit...Jay didnt get that till around '98 when HKL blew him the hell up.

BIG's movement was organic yet strategically executed.

 

[Animal Thug]

^THIS CUT HERE. F***ING GREATEST #10 ON ANY ALBUM EVER

 

"I took the cream and, moved to new places new faces
#%+# the screwfaces, cause when I flip
I make the papers, dangerous, we Goodfellas
+@!**% can't bang with us, try to do me
My crew be unruly (what)
To old school cats that call gats toolies
Call blacks moolies, think it's cool to smoke woolies
And #%+# without rubbers (what) specialize
in killin wives and grandmothers, who ya trustin, +%@#
When Frank start bustin, Frank start somethin
Killin ya gently, God meant me, to push a Bentley
Me and Sean Combs takin broads home
On the phone with the chip, these Cristal chicks
bout to make our own porno flicks, my life's the +%@#"

"We been around the world twice, all we got is mo' ice
and mo' nice, sacrifice your heart
Lexus with the automatic start (what)
Fifty shots'll tear your club apart
Eatin shrimp A la Carte, with some !%+$*%# from Brussels
Eatin clams or mussels
Uhh, out the %@@@ (what) pretty face no waist
I just want the bush, so I can mack you
Give her a package to push, cause I work dem %%@#
Pendejo's, I show you how to play them %%@#"

Big showed his %%% on this track. DMC provided the best compliment he could.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Son was literally everywhere...

I know some of y'all remember the Comic View skit about One More Chance.." Girls pee pee when they see me...no _ I doo doo when I see you"

Big homies flows was shaping pop culture. Jacob and Coogi, owe this man a big debt.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Son was literally everywhere...

I know some of y'all remember the Comic View skit about One More Chance.." Girls pee pee when they see me...no _ I doo doo when I see you"

Big homies flows was shaping pop culture. Jacob and Coogi, owe this man a big debt.

 

[celticspride34]

i have to go listen to R2D and LAD back to back no. i'm just shaking my head at the screen

 

[celticspride34]

i have to go listen to R2D and LAD back to back no. i'm just shaking my head at the screen

 

[willybuck]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

WillyBuck wrote:

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Biggie & 'Pac were both from the East Coast, though...

The 'West Coast' Pac was at his peak and is when he enhanced his influence on the world.

C'mon now dont insult my intelligence. We all know he's from B-More. You knew what I meant. 

I'm sorry, sir, but actually the city we were looking for is...

Thanks for playing.

 

[willybuck]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

WillyBuck wrote:

---

Biggie & 'Pac were both from the East Coast, though...

The 'West Coast' Pac was at his peak and is when he enhanced his influence on the world.

C'mon now dont insult my intelligence. We all know he's from B-More. You knew what I meant. 

I'm sorry, sir, but actually the city we were looking for is...

Thanks for playing.

 

[iknowrap]

most definitely...to the whole thread...BIG=GOAT.

 

[iknowrap]

most definitely...to the whole thread...BIG=GOAT.

 

[Animal Thug]

"What I stand here and represent is hope for Brooklyn, New York City. I'm a son of Brooklyn, I'm from Marcy projects," Jay said. "I think about growing up in Brooklyn in the Marcy projects and shooting jump shots, thinking I can make it to the NBA. Now I stand here as an owner of a team that's coming back to Brooklyn. The pride in that, and bringing that dream so much closer for people, brings me so much pride I get a little nervous about it. But I'm very happy, very excited about this day. And we did it again, Brooklyn — shout-out to [Notorious] B.I.G."
-Jay on the groundbreaking Nets move to Brooklyn.

 

[Animal Thug]

"What I stand here and represent is hope for Brooklyn, New York City. I'm a son of Brooklyn, I'm from Marcy projects," Jay said. "I think about growing up in Brooklyn in the Marcy projects and shooting jump shots, thinking I can make it to the NBA. Now I stand here as an owner of a team that's coming back to Brooklyn. The pride in that, and bringing that dream so much closer for people, brings me so much pride I get a little nervous about it. But I'm very happy, very excited about this day. And we did it again, Brooklyn — shout-out to [Notorious] B.I.G."
-Jay on the groundbreaking Nets move to Brooklyn.

 

[Animal Thug]

Originally Posted by WillyBuck

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

WillyBuck wrote:

---

Biggie & 'Pac were both from the East Coast, though...

The 'West Coast' Pac was at his peak and is when he enhanced his influence on the world.

C'mon now dont insult my intelligence. We all know he's from B-More. You knew what I meant. 

I'm sorry, sir, but actually the city we were looking for is...

Thanks for playing.




  
So me being born in Brooklyn, but raised in Cleveland makes me a NYer?

He was born in Harlem son. He grew up a teenager in B-More.

So..

...sit down young buck.

 

[Animal Thug]

Originally Posted by WillyBuck

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

WillyBuck wrote:

---

Biggie & 'Pac were both from the East Coast, though...

The 'West Coast' Pac was at his peak and is when he enhanced his influence on the world.

C'mon now dont insult my intelligence. We all know he's from B-More. You knew what I meant. 

I'm sorry, sir, but actually the city we were looking for is...

Thanks for playing.




  
So me being born in Brooklyn, but raised in Cleveland makes me a NYer?

He was born in Harlem son. He grew up a teenager in B-More.

So..

...sit down young buck.

 

[willybuck]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

 So me being born in Brooklyn, but raised in Cleveland makes me a NYer?

He was born in Harlem son. He grew up a teenager in B-More.

Read Darrin Bastfield's book, he was best friends with 2Pac in Baltimore. It is made very clear that 'Pac thought of himself as being from New York. Even when rappers from the Bay talk about 'Pac, they acknowledge him as being from New York. How he going to be from Baltimore, but rep NY the whole time he there?

 

[willybuck]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

 So me being born in Brooklyn, but raised in Cleveland makes me a NYer?

He was born in Harlem son. He grew up a teenager in B-More.

Read Darrin Bastfield's book, he was best friends with 2Pac in Baltimore. It is made very clear that 'Pac thought of himself as being from New York. Even when rappers from the Bay talk about 'Pac, they acknowledge him as being from New York. How he going to be from Baltimore, but rep NY the whole time he there?

 

[Animal Thug]

HAZE, I dont mean to hi-jack your thread.

I mean you may be right but I remember watching one of Pac's documenteries and him saying how living in Baltimore made him the man that he was and how nobody in NY was messing with him. LOL its funny because the man himself repped Cali more than both the cities we mentioned so it's tough to say.

I was born in Brooklyn and moved to CLE when I was 5 and I don't rep NY 100%; but your valid arguments basically means its ok to say I am a NYer. I see what you're saying though.

 

[Animal Thug]

HAZE, I dont mean to hi-jack your thread.

I mean you may be right but I remember watching one of Pac's documenteries and him saying how living in Baltimore made him the man that he was and how nobody in NY was messing with him. LOL its funny because the man himself repped Cali more than both the cities we mentioned so it's tough to say.

I was born in Brooklyn and moved to CLE when I was 5 and I don't rep NY 100%; but your valid arguments basically means its ok to say I am a NYer. I see what you're saying though.

 

[dead stokc]

I got techniques leakin out my butt cheeks
sleep on my stomach so i dont $!*+ up my sheets!!

 

[dead stokc]

I got techniques leakin out my butt cheeks
sleep on my stomach so i dont $!*+ up my sheets!!

 

[sdotrusherz]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

WillyBuck wrote:

---

 

Biggie & 'Pac were both from the East Coast, though...

The 'West Coast' Pac was at his peak and is when he enhanced his influence on the world.

C'mon now dont insult my intelligence. We all know he's from B-More. You knew what I meant.

  
He's not from Baltimore.

 

[nostrandave68]

Can't be no goat off two albums sorry!

You know why MJ is the GOAT because we not only saw his zenith but also his fall off. Seeing highs an lows gives a more accurate assessment of an artist. We can only speculate how Biggie's career would continue after LAD, we saw how Rakim, Nas & Jay's did thats why there's more credibility when their names are mentioned. Longevity & Consistency are 2 very key components to being considered a GOAT...unfortunately those aspect aren't attributable to BIG. People also don't look at other factors such as hip-hop battles, the Nas/Jay battle helped to define those two artists. What if BIG had gotten into a heavyweight battle and lost, how would he have been viewed by the hip-hop community. Also with BIG still alive his other peers in rap would have been putting out their best music aswell just to be in conversation with BIG so maybe Andre3000, Nas, Jay and etc would have put out better music than they already did. Its too many "What If's" with BIG to label him the GOAT... but he's definitely a hip-hop great

 

[sdotrusherz]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

WillyBuck wrote:

---

 

Biggie & 'Pac were both from the East Coast, though...

The 'West Coast' Pac was at his peak and is when he enhanced his influence on the world.

C'mon now dont insult my intelligence. We all know he's from B-More. You knew what I meant.

  
He's not from Baltimore.

 

[nostrandave68]

Can't be no goat off two albums sorry!

You know why MJ is the GOAT because we not only saw his zenith but also his fall off. Seeing highs an lows gives a more accurate assessment of an artist. We can only speculate how Biggie's career would continue after LAD, we saw how Rakim, Nas & Jay's did thats why there's more credibility when their names are mentioned. Longevity & Consistency are 2 very key components to being considered a GOAT...unfortunately those aspect aren't attributable to BIG. People also don't look at other factors such as hip-hop battles, the Nas/Jay battle helped to define those two artists. What if BIG had gotten into a heavyweight battle and lost, how would he have been viewed by the hip-hop community. Also with BIG still alive his other peers in rap would have been putting out their best music aswell just to be in conversation with BIG so maybe Andre3000, Nas, Jay and etc would have put out better music than they already did. Its too many "What If's" with BIG to label him the GOAT... but he's definitely a hip-hop great

 

[sdotrusherz]

Haze... keep going....

Throw "Warning" In the mix.