Intervention?

Originally Posted by Nawth21

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Nawth21

While MJ may not cause physical addiction, like other drugs, it can be addictive psychologically. Cocaine is another drug that is not "physically" addictive but we all know people do become addicted to it.
are you sure cocaine isnt physically addictive
It is, sort of, but not like other drugs are. Crack and freebase excluded. It's not the same as other hard drugs though, but it's been awhile since I took drug related courses. But there is something about it that makes it different from other drug addictions.

Weed is no where near as physically addictive as coke... I dont care what any studies say
 
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

So, I smoke weed; I must be an addict because I have no self control???
where did I say YOU have no self control. You smoke week everyday and are ok with it....fine. that's you.
like I said... just like any drug.. there are people who are more prone to addiction than others.

sheesh... people are so defensive

Marijuana is not a drug one becomes addicted to. Their[sic] is nothing in marijuana that causes addiction to it.
You need to learn the difference between physical and mental addiction.

People can detoxify their body of a physically addicting drug...but the mental aspect of addiction is easily the harder aspect to get over.
To say that people can't get addicted to MJ is being ignorant of the psychology of addiction
Ummm, I thought I made it clear that I knew the difference between physical and mental addiction already?? I did say "You could say thatyou're mentally addicted to it....."
and what does that come down to when you are MENTALLY addicted?????????? NO SELF CONTROL. I can't put it any clearer than that.... BTW,if you've never done drugs before then I'm done having this debate with you. There's no way you can have a conversation about something when allyou know about it is what you read.... Take a toke sometime and see what it's really like.
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Nawth21

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Nawth21

While MJ may not cause physical addiction, like other drugs, it can be addictive psychologically. Cocaine is another drug that is not "physically" addictive but we all know people do become addicted to it.
are you sure cocaine isnt physically addictive
It is, sort of, but not like other drugs are. Crack and freebase excluded. It's not the same as other hard drugs though, but it's been awhile since I took drug related courses. But there is something about it that makes it different from other drug addictions.

Weed is no where near as physically addictive as coke... I dont care what any studies say
No one is saying it is. But weed and other drugs SUCH AS cocaine, are addictive more so psychologically.
 
Originally Posted by Nawth21

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Nawth21

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Nawth21

While MJ may not cause physical addiction, like other drugs, it can be addictive psychologically. Cocaine is another drug that is not "physically" addictive but we all know people do become addicted to it.
are you sure cocaine isnt physically addictive
It is, sort of, but not like other drugs are. Crack and freebase excluded. It's not the same as other hard drugs though, but it's been awhile since I took drug related courses. But there is something about it that makes it different from other drug addictions.

Weed is no where near as physically addictive as coke... I dont care what any studies say
No one is saying it is. But weed and other drugs SUCH AS cocaine, are addictive more so psychologically.

Ok I see what your saying now
 
It has to start with him first...he prolly just smokes himself crazy because he knows that he F'ed up...the people around him just have to come together toshow him that he can get back on track...
 
I feel bad for OP cuz he's sincerely worried about his friend... But, he's obviously gettin by doing what he's doing. Something has to change withthe way he's being taken care of by whoever it is that feeds, clothes, and houses him. If it takes rehab to get him on his feet again then shame on him forhaving no willpower at all to just stop what he's doing and get a job. geez.
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Nawth21

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Nawth21

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Nawth21

While MJ may not cause physical addiction, like other drugs, it can be addictive psychologically. Cocaine is another drug that is not "physically" addictive but we all know people do become addicted to it.
are you sure cocaine isnt physically addictive
It is, sort of, but not like other drugs are. Crack and freebase excluded. It's not the same as other hard drugs though, but it's been awhile since I took drug related courses. But there is something about it that makes it different from other drug addictions.

Weed is no where near as physically addictive as coke... I dont care what any studies say
No one is saying it is. But weed and other drugs SUCH AS cocaine, are addictive more so psychologically.

Ok I see what your saying now
but i dont know if i'd say that cocaine is just as addictive mentally & it is physically. I actually think cocaine is actually pretty damnphysically addictive. not to the extent of crack cocaine or crystal meth, but still pretty high.
 
Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Ummm, I thought I made it clear that I knew the difference between physical and mental addiction already?? I did say "You could say that you're mentally addicted to it....."
and what does that come down to when you are MENTALLY addicted?????????? NO SELF CONTROL. I can't put it any clearer than that....
Just b/c YOU can smoke weed everyday doesn't mean it's the same for the next person...so again.. you're just wholly ignorant of thepsychology of addition if you think it boils down to something as simple as no self control.
BTW, if you've never done drugs before then I'm done having this debate with you. There's no way you can have a conversation about something when all you know about it is what you read.... Take a toke sometime and see what it's really like.
...don't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
and even IF someone hasn't done any drugs... that doesn't negate them from the argument at hand. That's a foolish leg to stand on in an argumenton addiction.
 
Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

I feel bad for OP cuz he's sincerely worried about his friend... But, he's obviously gettin by doing what he's doing. Something has to change with the way he's being taken care of by whoever it is that feeds, clothes, and houses him. If it takes rehab to get him on his feet again then shame on him for having no willpower at all to just stop what he's doing and get a job. geez.
Exactly what I was about to post.... Dude is 27 and his moms is still cleaning up his messes. Im sure shes giving him his money to support hishabit

Until that changes, your boy aint gonna change.
 
Basically what it boils down to is the worse the withdrawal the more physically addictive that drug is. Alcohol is one of the worse, the DTs can kill you. Andof course opiates are bad as well. It's the physical dependence on that drug in order to just be baseline normal - not even high, just to function normallythat drug is required.

The term addiction is kind of a misnomer, it's more like weed and cocaine are not drugs that have the physical dependence that other hard drugs have.
 
sorry dirty, but i have to agree with stangz ...

ive seen it firsthand, people choose to continue to smoke weed and people dont ... i grew up the same way all my friends did, but i chose a different path ...i was smoking as much as they were, but it came to a point where i had more self control and just stopped ...

people like to claim that "you dont know how it is to be addicted until you are addicted" ... well "you cant claim to know that marijuana isaddicting unless youve smoked it" ... been there done that, and its not addicting ...
 
Damn thats's a crazy story...i've never heard of someone's life goin down the drain because of smoking weed
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I think you should look into it andask different places that have admited people for smoking too much weed because if I was ever in the same situation I would want my friend to help me as muchas possible
 
Another thing, Are you sure weed is the only drug your man is doing?
 
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Ummm, I thought I made it clear that I knew the difference between physical and mental addiction already?? I did say "You could say that you're mentally addicted to it....."
and what does that come down to when you are MENTALLY addicted?????????? NO SELF CONTROL. I can't put it any clearer than that....
Just b/c YOU can smoke weed everyday doesn't mean it's the same for the next person...so again.. you're just wholly ignorant of the psychology of addition if you think it boils down to something as simple as no self control.
BTW, if you've never done drugs before then I'm done having this debate with you. There's no way you can have a conversation about something when all you know about it is what you read.... Take a toke sometime and see what it's really like.
...don't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
and even IF someone hasn't done any drugs... that doesn't negate them from the argument at hand. That's a foolish leg to stand on in an argument on addiction.







Since we're on the topic of assumptions, don't assume I made an assumption about you BEFORE you revise my post... I clearly said, "BTW,IF...."
So considereing I said "IF", obviously I wasn't assuming anything about you..

No, it doesn't negate them.... Once again I find myself having to repeat every damn thing I say to clarify where I stand. I said,"...I'm donehaving this debate with you"... I didn't say you're not allowed to have input, etc... You can have all the input you want, but at the end ofthe day, what you know from a book, magazine, etc., doesn't compare to what you'd know from actual experience. Don't tell me otherwisebecause I've experienced and seen plenty of different things in life and they were NOT the way the books/everyone else/friends/teachers/parents/the worldsaid they would be.
 
Umm.. that dude is definitely doing something else besides bud.

Or he's just using it as an excuse to act like a damn fool. Because I know for a fact that as a avid burner of the devil's lettuce for like 5 years nowI've never been too high that I **** on myself. Probably just too bent to stand up or whatever, but when you doing foolishness like that you need to getsmacked in the face & wake him up.

Like talking to dude isn't going to help.. You see him like that again whoop his $+* & tell me if that don't sober him up.
He's 27 living with his moms too.. Like no offense to whoever does that, but if you 27 & your moms determines when you wake up & whether or not youhave your car keys then you are losing the game of life & need a reality check.

It's people like that that make bud look bad & make it seem like weed is a worse then it really is.
Some people should be burning & others no.
 
Originally Posted by MarleysProtege

sorry dirty, but i have to agree with stangz ...

ive seen it firsthand, people choose to continue to smoke weed and people dont ... i grew up the same way all my friends did, but i chose a different path ... i was smoking as much as they were, but it came to a point where i had more self control and just stopped ...

people like to claim that "you dont know how it is to be addicted until you are addicted" ... well "you cant claim to know that marijuana is addicting unless youve smoked it" ... been there done that, and its not addicting ...

Thank you.
Dirty is right that it could be different for other people though... But, nothing has ever arised from weed like this story the OP has told us. There's gotta be more to his friend's problems than Marijuana.
 
please...it doesn't take a genius to know what you were implying.

what you know from a book, magazine, etc., doesn't compare to what you'd know from actual experience
...but you know nothing of addiction either though (as you so emphatically mention)...so how can negate a person's input just b/c theyhaven't puffed one?

and really....you're just splitting silly hairs... having input vs having a debate... it's the same thing... the intent behind your words is to negatethe other person's argument
 
Also, from what I can tell from your story, your boy is either doing other drugs or hes suffering from depression. I just cant see weed doing that to him byitself
 
some of yall are like MJ is not addicting, are u kidding me? i could honestly say it is. Its a routine that people get use to doing, sometimes its hard tochange it.

But for real tho, are you sure MJ is the only drug he is doing? i have tons of friends that smoke and they are doing fine. I dont understand how a 27 year oldcould be so unresponsible.. and im just 20 with a job, going to college and smokes about every other day.
 
hahahahaha wow....Coming from the "administrator" Holy power trip.... Get off your horse, there's no way you can tell what I was, or wasn'timplying. We're typing, not speaking. You can't tell the tone of my voice lolol You're gonna tell me what I"M implying?!?!? hahahahaYOU'RE GONNA TELL ME WHAT I WAS IMPLYING?!?!?!?!? LMAO OK , now I'm really done cuz how could I ever have the last word with the"administrator"? You can have the floor and do whatever you'd like with it.... I won't reply. Trust me. I was just trying to answer theOP's question. Like a dictatorship in here... OK, I'm really done now.
 
Originally Posted by LAzianBoi

some of yall are like MJ is not addicting, are u kidding me? i could honestly say it is. Its a routine that people get use to doing, sometimes its hard to change it.

But for real tho, are you sure MJ is the only drug he is doing? i have tons of friends that smoke and they are doing fine. I dont understand how a 27 year old could be so unresponsible.. and im just 20 with a job, going to college and smokes about every other day.
its a routine but if you can still function, whats the problem? this guy is obviously on some other other type *%@@ ... ir by the way
 
Originally Posted by MarleysProtege

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

lol what? So, I smoke weed; I must be an addict because I have no self control???
I smoke weed just about everyday. I work 40 hours a week and attain a 3.6 GPA while taking 5 classes a semester majoring in Criminal Justice..... I guess I've got pretty good self control to be able to keep my priorities in check while still smoking a natural herb that supposedly is "addictive".
Marijuana is not a drug one becomes addicted to. Their is nothing in marijuana that causes addiction to it.

You could say that you're mentally addicted to it because you have found yourself in the same routines because of it. aka: NO SELF CONTROL.
the first step is admitting it......

you may function better in society but you still an addict
 
Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

hahahahaha wow....Coming from the "administrator" Holy power trip.... Get off your horse, there's no way you can tell what I was, or wasn't implying. We're typing, not speaking. You can't tell the tone of my voice lolol You're gonna tell me what I"M implying?!?!? hahahaha YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME WHAT I WAS IMPLYING?!?!?!?!? LMAO OK , now I'm really done cuz how could I ever have the last word with the "administrator"? You can have the floor and do whatever you'd like with it.... I won't reply. Trust me. I was just trying to answer the OP's question. Like a dictatorship in here... OK, I'm really done now.
yo what are you on? let me get some of that.. lol..
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The effects of weed is not the same for everyone. Just because you may "control" your psychological addiction (and yes, you are addicted since you doit every day) doesn't mean everyone else can.

And it's pretty OBVIOUS he lacks self-control...thank you for further validating my need to intervene.

Where does he get the money? He worked in finance for four years. He was a damn workhorse too. If anything, his job is probably what caused it; working 8AM-8PMevery day and wanting to stay home even on weekends just because of the fatigue makes weed the only recreation for him. He earned good money, lived at home,and still drove the same car he did in high school...very frugal with money. And just knowing that he's blowing his savings on a dumb substance bothers me.He was fairly straightedge guy who just got fed up.

MarleysProtege

Didn't you say that you've seen people go in the opposite direction? So how can you say it isn't addicting?
 
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