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He's on a joke of a team.. one that's not conducive to improving as a player and professional.
John Wall.....Bust?
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If Wall went to a decent team with other solid players surrounding him, cats would be on here saying he's better than cp3. Some of you dudes are funny.
Yall calling this man a bust in just his second year! Son still has the fold print in his jersey cause the joint is still brand new. He may have to take his talents elsewhere but he'll be up there in the rankings one day. Tonight he was just reminding cats what was up in case you forgot why he went numero uno.
Yall calling this man a bust in just his second year! Son still has the fold print in his jersey cause the joint is still brand new. He may have to take his talents elsewhere but he'll be up there in the rankings one day. Tonight he was just reminding cats what was up in case you forgot why he went numero uno.
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nobody will ever say that
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Especially for a young point guard. He's a guy that'd prefer to get everyone involved, then take over in stretches like he did in Kentucky. Really hard to find that balance in the NBA, especially with a bad team as a PG and as a youngster. He's unselfish, big, and fast. I don't think he's a knucklehead at all. He had a good team around him and even though he was the number 1 prospect, he never ever played selfishly at Kentucky.
I mean everyone can hate on Wall, but he's the only player I've seen consistently beat everyone to the rim at will. I'm not talking half court. I'm talking after a made shot, John'll say F it, I'm scoring and no one is stopping me, and NO ONE IS STOPPING HIM. Awesome to watch.
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You must not watch Derrick Rose, Monta Ellis, even Tony Parker, or Russell Westbrook much. In fact, the latter leads guards in points in the paint. John's whole spit a few defenders with the cuff off the dribble, jump off the wrong foot in traffic layup attempt is more miss than hit, of course the hits make the highlights
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he woulda been ROY had Blake not recieved a medical redshirt.
Wall's rookie year pretty much parallels that of Rose's.
Wall's rookie year pretty much parallels that of Rose's.
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It's his second year that has everyone worried
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33 games into a shortened season and people are worried... lol.
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Is it too early for him to demand that trade that he will be demanding soon?
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Wall, with almost all certainty, will be a top 5 PG within 3-4 years. You'd be an idiot to say otherwise.
And all the people saying "he's gonna leave, demand a trade blah blah"... with the way the CBA is structured there will be no advantage to him not resigning with Washington
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Originally Posted by DT43
so much idiocy in this thread.. i don't even know what to quote.
Wall, with almost all certainty, will be a top 5 PG within 3-4 years. You'd be an idiot to say otherwise.
And all the people saying "he's gonna leave, demand a trade blah blah"... with the way the CBA is structured there will be no advantage to him not resigning with Washington
What about the advantage of not playing with mental midgets who make him look bad for the rest of his career?
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This was pretty interesting..
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http://www.bulletsforever...ington-wizards#storyjump
I'd love to see how this stacks up to the other PG's he's being compared to in this thread
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What are you guys talking about? John was drafted by an organization that fell off the face of the earth since MJ days. They have NO FRANCHISE and are constantly in REBUILD MODE.
He has the size, the athleticism and he is going to be a good point guard if he can be in a system that works.
You don't see no body talking about ****** KEMBA WALKER? How about the BEN GORDON fall out?
Just because these cats don't do good their first few years, doesn't mean they can't flourish down the road. Did you all even see WALL do the wrap around dunk? He has a lot going for him.
It's sad he's on a terrible franchise, as I know he wants out. He'll have to work on his shot.
He has the size, the athleticism and he is going to be a good point guard if he can be in a system that works.
You don't see no body talking about ****** KEMBA WALKER? How about the BEN GORDON fall out?
Just because these cats don't do good their first few years, doesn't mean they can't flourish down the road. Did you all even see WALL do the wrap around dunk? He has a lot going for him.
It's sad he's on a terrible franchise, as I know he wants out. He'll have to work on his shot.
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Originally Posted by 10027
Originally Posted by DT43
so much idiocy in this thread.. i don't even know what to quote.
Wall, with almost all certainty, will be a top 5 PG within 3-4 years. You'd be an idiot to say otherwise.
And all the people saying "he's gonna leave, demand a trade blah blah"... with the way the CBA is structured there will be no advantage to him not resigning with Washington
What about the advantage of not playing with mental midgets who make him look bad for the rest of his career?
That's worth more money than DC can ever offer him imo. Sorry Double
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Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT
@ since MJ days. They didn't sniff the playoffs during those days and went for 4 straight years afterwards in the Arenas era.
And arenas is who now? Come on man. You know what I mean.
The spill over is a great reason why this franchise went tumbling down. They signed agent Zero w/ everything and he failed to deliver. Isn't that always the case/ ALA, BEN GORDON. Who dat?
Who are all these 5 year shelf life guards? COME ON MAN
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Originally Posted by RunningFishy
Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT
@ since MJ days. They didn't sniff the playoffs during those days and went for 4 straight years afterwards in the Arenas era.
And arenas is who now? Come on man. You know what I mean.
The spill over is a great reason why this franchise went tumbling down. They signed agent Zero w/ everything and he failed to deliver. Isn't that always the case/ ALA, BEN GORDON. Who dat?
Who are all these 5 year shelf life guards? COME ON MAN
Whatchu talkin' bout willis?
The first go-round on the contract that brought Arenas from GS to DC was great, and they had a nice squad. Health was the problem as the "Big 3" were hardly on the floor together. I don't know what you're getting at.
That's worth more money than DC can ever offer him imo. Sorry Double
And that's what I'm worried about...
I think it was Dior Paint who said that Wall will probably sign an extension like what Kevin Love did in Minnesota...I gotta agree with that...assuming Wall stays.
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Honestly... if was me... I'm not trying to sign for more than 1yr and I let FO know that in private.
"Look, you have 3 yrs to make moves to convince me to stay otherwise I'm leaving after my rookie contract is up"
I'm not saying you have to become a title contender in 3yrs, but you have to make moves to improve your personnel. You have to get me talent that wants to win. Talent that has a decent IQ. Personnel that can develop me & the rest of the talent.
"Look, you have 3 yrs to make moves to convince me to stay otherwise I'm leaving after my rookie contract is up"
I'm not saying you have to become a title contender in 3yrs, but you have to make moves to improve your personnel. You have to get me talent that wants to win. Talent that has a decent IQ. Personnel that can develop me & the rest of the talent.
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Wall started slow this season, a shortened training camp sent a lot of players to poor performances out of the gate. Hes been playing really well going into the All-Star Break. And look at the teammates surrounding him. Nick Young has been inconsistent, Rashard Lewis dogs it every night, Javale throws up 3-5 errant skyhooks a game, Blatche is lazy, and his bench is mediocre. Yet he still puts up good assists. No way he falls int he "bust" category yet
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Suprisingly he says he made 2000 shots a day during the summer and the lockout. But his game really hasn't improved since last season. Not a bust but at this point clearly not as a good of a pg as Kyrie
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John Wall career average - 8.1apg
Kyrie Irving - 5.1
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Agree with this.
Dude is super talented and i think its premature to call him a bust. But Derrick Rose came into the league as an average jump shooter and now id say he has a very nice jumper. I don't see wall evolving as fast as D. Rose did. But i think he has it all except a jumper (and a team around him). He will end up leaving Washington
