Kevin Samuels Thread

[KHUFU]

I don’t understand the logic. If a woman thinks being STYLE A is attractive but I’m not attracted to STYLE A who is stopping her from remaining STYLE A? I don’t think anyone is. However let’s say this woman wants specifically my attention/for me to be attracted to her, she would have to change her style to what I like which for this example is STYLE B. I haven’t forced her to change. She is not required to be attractive for me. But if she wants the result: “Coromanti’s Attraction” then she will change to get it.


Also, I’m not understanding your correlation between Abrahamic religions and changing beauty standards.


Example: Mauritania is a country where larger women are the beauty standard. To the point where young girls are force fed to gain weight so they will be considered attractive. They are also predominantly a Muslim country. Islam is an Abrahamic religion. I think this contradicts your point.

Perception of Beauty in Mauritania: Big is Beautiful

Western celebrities push the notion that thin is always in. However, beauty in Mauritania is held to, “big is beautiful and stretch marks are sexy”.

www.borgenmagazine.com

Another example: The population of West Africa and its diaspora in Europa and the Americas have a preference for more curvaceous women.

Black/White Differences in Perceived Weight and Attractiveness among Overweight Women

Numerous studies have reported that Black women are more satisfied with their bodies than White women. The buffering hypothesis suggests that aspects of Black culture protect Black women against media ideals that promote a slender female body type; therefore, Black women are expected to exhibit...

www.hindawi.com

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.3758/BF03337366.pdf

Again, I was discussing how the oppression of women LIMITS her ability to believe that she is deserving of her desires, her wishes. The other commenter made it seem that it was out of reason for her to want a man, who happened to be well off and stable. You can choose who you want to choose, and as a man, that is your privilege. However, the woman cannot even mention her desires, unless she comes off as being pure. Standards for women are much higher, than they are of men. Donald Trump can call women fat, calling them cows, then say in the same breath that since he is famous? He can grab them by the genitals.

Have you seen Donald Trump?

Where does his entitlement come from?

The comment about the abrahamic faiths and fertility, beauty, sexuality, imagery, was being discussed in another thread of which is now locked, then not relevant here, as I was addressing DCAllAfrican and his question.

There is no doubt that the abrahamic faiths are oppressive to women, downright disgusting toward them, as shown here...

Women are the Devil's gateway
Eve bit the apple and the world's been in trouble ever since. At least that's how
one of the core myths of Judeo-Christian religion has been interpreted. Not
surprisingly that view has been heavily criticised by feminist theologians.
Here's a New Internationalist summary of the debate.


'I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent' I Timothy 2:12.

Islam
According to the Quran, 'Men are the maintainers (or in charge) of women. So the good women are obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. And (as to) those whose part you fear desertion, admonish them and leave them alone in their beds and chastise them. So if they obey you, seek not a way against them.' (Quran 5:34).
Judaism
One of the morning blessings made by an Orthodox Jewish male: 'Blessed are you Lord our God, King of the Universe, who has not made me a woman.'

Women Are The Devil's Gateway

newint.org

So, I am not trying to hear how these religions are not controlling about not only a woman and their image, but their behaviors as well.

 

[marikomorose]

How do you determine what's colorist and what's just preference?

Propping up ppl b/c of their skin tone. Look at your ig explore page if u have one. If all have is light skin chicks popping up them yeah...

With blk ppl a lot of very average looking light skin women & dark skin men gets propped simply b/c they're dark skin and light skin.

 

[Based Jesus]

In no way does colorism benefit dark skin people. Men or women.

 

[tomdiginson]

Again, I was discussing how the oppression of women LIMITS her ability to believe that she is deserving of her desires, her wishes. The other commenter made it seem that it was out of reason for her to want a man, who happened to be well off and stable.

This isn't true at all. Not only do you lie, but you move the goal post each time. I use to think you were one of the better posters on here. Now, not so much. And others who thought so too are seeing it for themself.

Women are oppressed in society and they have the right to make demands, but that still doesn't change the fact that someone can have unrealistic demands/standards and expectations. And this goes for both men and women. Also, don't play daft. You made an assumption regarding my requirements by stating the following below which is why I told you you don't know my standards.

You were reaching before, but this is just bad. You've degraded both black rights and women's rights by comparing them to someone's fanciful dream of having a spouse who is top 1 percent of income and living in a big house. Telling someone they have unrealistic standards does not equate to racism nor sexism. Your comparisons are like a no masker Karen comparing that being told they cannot shop in a grocery without a mask to slavery. This is insane. Do better.


I not wanting to marry someone who is overweight is not an unrealistic standard. You're just arguing for the sake of now.

 

[Brownstone]

To me if the preference turns prohibitive its colorism. I would never talk to ______ naw bro thats just racist lol

For instance, I don't really rock with Asian women like that, but I aint gonna sit here and front like I would never wife one up if the right one came along

 

[KHUFU]

You may love hefty women, but I don't. That doesn't mean I'm "fat phobic" or propagating negative stereotypes.

You have your own requirements for your women. So do I. Telling someone they're overweight is not considered fat phobic. It's called telling the truth. Based off what you're saying... telling a heroin addict who says they want to marry an individual who is a billionaire that their standards are too high (especially in their current condition) and that they should come down to earth is considered some kind of phobia.

One of my heroes, Miles Davis was not only a millionaire, but a heroin addict, coke addict, pothead, AND diabetic with sickle cell, bisexual, and your level of standard does not apply to him, why? Because he got to choose who he wanted to be with, marry. His expectations were simply be with a fine woman.

Women are oppressed in society and they have the right to make demands, but that still doesn't change the fact that someone can have unrealistic demands/standards and expectations. And this goes for both men and women. Also, don't play daft. You made an assumption regarding my requirements by stating the following below which is why I told you you don't know my standards.

This isn't true at all. Not only do you lie, but you move the goal post each time. I use to think you were one of the better posters on here. Now, not so much. And others who thought so too are seeing it for themself.

All of your quotes, speak for themselves, I do not need to lie about anything. They are your words my man.

 

[KHUFU]

Also, I absolutely LOVE how this information gets ignored on these sort of threads, where women are being criticized.


Women are the Devil's gateway
Eve bit the apple and the world's been in trouble ever since. At least that's how
one of the core myths of Judeo-Christian religion has been interpreted. Not
surprisingly that view has been heavily criticised by feminist theologians.
Here's a New Internationalist summary of the debate.


'I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent' I Timothy 2:12.

Islam
According to the Quran, 'Men are the maintainers (or in charge) of women. So the good women are obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. And (as to) those whose part you fear desertion, admonish them and leave them alone in their beds and chastise them. So if they obey you, seek not a way against them.' (Quran 5:34).
Judaism
One of the morning blessings made by an Orthodox Jewish male: 'Blessed are you Lord our God, King of the Universe, who has not made me a woman.'

Not only does this get ignored, but for some strange reason? People do not realize how these belief systems have influenced those who are not even participants of these belief systems, those who claim atheism.

Women are not simply breeders, here for your entertainment. Your mothers are not your servants, your wives are not your whores, and your daughters are not your property.

 

[tomdiginson]

One of my heroes, Miles Davis was not only a millionaire, but a heroin addict, coke addict, pothead, AND diabetic with sickle cell, bisexual, and your level of standard does not apply to him, why? Because he got to choose who he wanted to be with, marry. His expectations were simply be with a fine woman.


All of your quotes, speak for themselves, I do not need to lie about anything. They are your words my man.

The average person isn't Miles Davis. He was a famous well-known artist. What worked for him won't work for you. In fact, you can voluntarily take heroin and cocaine and report to us in a few years on whether it worked out for you. Your wife will probably leave you, but in your head, you think your Miles Davis. Again, keep moving the goalposts.

 

[KHUFU]

The average person isn't Miles Davis. He was a famous well-known artist. What worked for him won't work for you. In fact, you can voluntarily take heroin and cocaine and report to us in a few years on whether it worked out for you. Your wife will probably leave you, but in your head, you think your Miles Davis. Again, keep moving the goalposts.

I am not moving the goal posts. What I am showing you is how the rules of engagement are not equal for women.
Living with privilege allows one to make mistakes. This is what privilege affords, it allows you to recover from your mishaps, with your reputation in tact. You are given the benefit of the doubt.

For women, this is not the case. Once she has a child, and then not being married? She is supposedly sending the wrong messages to other women who want a successful mate, marriage. In most cases, women have to choose between a career, and then having a family. Men do not need to consider such.

If a man has kids? Well, he is simply doing his job as a man.

His stature does not diminish due to his having children out of wedlock, just as long as he can pay the bills. if he does that? He is considered even more of a man.

Women are oppressed in society and they have the right to make demands, but that still doesn't change the fact that someone can have unrealistic demands/standards and expectations. And this goes for both men and women. Also, don't play daft. You made an assumption regarding my requirements by stating the following below which is why I told you you don't know my standards.

Because things are unequal in this society, the bold and underlined comes off like this....

There were some very fine people, on both sides.

Men and women are not equal, and men are not judged through the same prism as women are.

 

[flyerthandelta]

This guy is LEGENDARY more than Tariq will ever be!!!

 

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All This For The Stimmy Check? Simpin' Ain't Easy, Shorty Out Here Punkn TF Outta Her Boyfriend! “Crawl To Me”

If doing whatever it take to get that tax/stimmy money was a person...Posted by JR

worldstar.com

 

[Brownstone]

being caught on camera dating that girl is worse than the crawling tbh

 

[tomdiginson]

I am not moving the goal posts. What I am showing you is how the rules of engagement are not equal for women.
Living with privilege allows one to make mistakes. This is what privilege affords, it allows you to recover from your mishaps, with your reputation in tact. You are given the benefit of the doubt.

For women, this is not the case. Once she has a child, and then not being married? She is supposedly sending the wrong messages to other women who want a successful mate, marriage. In most cases, women have to choose between a career, and then having a family. Men do not need to consider such.

If a man has kids? Well, he is simply doing his job as a man.

His stature does not diminish due to his having children out of wedlock, just as long as he can pay the bills. if he does that? He is considered even more of a man.

You are moving the goalposts. You've done it numerous times. Go look back. You're arguments are all over the place. You went from arguing about rating systems of the world to arguing about women's weight to getting emotional about people having standards. You're starting to sound like a pandering Van Jones and Derrick Jackson rolled into one. If you really care about women especially black women, you won't tell them lies in order to appear as an ally.

Because things are unequal in this society, the bold and underlined comes off like this....

There were some very fine people, on both sides.

Men and women are not equal, and men are not judged through the same prism as women are.

Another reaching statement and bad comparison. Try again. If you really care about women especially black women that you so call profess to love, don't tell them lies. You laughed and criticized Derrick Jackson, but here you are doing the same thing.

 

[KHUFU]

You are moving the goalposts. You've done it numerous times. Go look back. You're arguments are all over the place. You went from arguing about rating systems of the world to arguing about women's weight to getting emotional about people having standards. You're starting to sound like a pandering Van Jones and Derrick Jackson rolled into one. If you really care about women especially black women, you won't tell them lies in order to appear as an ally.

Another reaching statement and bad comparison. Try again. If you really care about women especially black women that you so call profess to love, don't tell them lies. You laughed and criticized Derrick Jackson, but here you are doing the same thing.

What am I lying to women about? Pull the post, quote it.

 

[tomdiginson]

What am I lying to women about?

Go re-read your own posts and you'll find the answer. If haven't edited them before people are able to quote them like you normally do.

 

[KHUFU]

Go re-read your own posts and you'll find the answer. If haven't edited them before people are able to quote them like you normally do.

I haven't edited much other than misspellings, and perhaps a name or two. You can ask a mod to help you if you wish.

Pull the quote. where am I lying to women? Are you speaking about how Judaism, Christianity and Islam treats women?

Pull the quote, because you stated that I am lying about something, so the burden of proof is upon you.

 

[tomdiginson]

I haven't edited much other than misspellings, and perhaps a name or two. You can ask a mod to help you if you wish.

Pull the quote. where am I lying to women? Are you speaking about how Judaism, Christianity and Islam treats women?

Pull the quote, because you stated that I am lying about something, so the burden of proof is upon you.

Keep up. You want to discuss the topic, well at least be able to keep up. Deceiving women with lies to appear to be their ally is degusting and not helpful to their cause. If I see a sister setting expectations or standards that will prevent them from getting an intended result, I'm not going to lie to them and tell them it will work for them to appear as an ally. Which is what you've been pushing and advocating for. Don't play daft all of a sudden. You and delk seem to have something else in common. On top of moving goal posts, you're willing to feign ignorance when your wrongs are pointed out.

 

[KHUFU]

Keep up. You want to discuss the topic, well at least be able to keep up. Deceiving women with lies to appear to be their ally is degusting and not helpful to their cause. If I see a sister setting expectations or standards that will prevent them from getting an intended result, I'm not going to lie to them and tell them it will work for them to appear as an ally. Which is what you've been pushing and advocating for. Don't play daft all of a sudden. You and delk seem to have something else in common. On top of moving goal posts, you're willing to feign ignorance when your wrongs are pointed out.

Find that quote yet?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Yall are making JRepp23 so proud right now.

 

[tomdiginson]

Find that quote yet?

Anyone with two eyes and the ability to read can go back and look at your posts and see what you're pushing and advocating for. To deceive women. Like a crooked politician pandering for their votes only to short change them after. Do better.

 

[KHUFU]

Anyone with two eyes and the ability to read can go back and look at your posts and see what you're pushing and advocating for. To deceive women. Like a crooked politician pandering for their votes only to short change them after.

Again, where's the quote? I have not said anything you've stated, never even came close.

Quote the post. You have the nerve to say that I am lying?!

 

[tomdiginson]

Again, where's the quote? I have not said anything you've stated, never even came close.

Quote the post.

Continue to feign ignorance. Stop the deception. Women's rights to you is just a buzzword to get positive reception. You don't necessarily care about it outside of some internet reps and e-daps. Advocating to deceive our sisters in appearing to be sympathetic and an ally is not helpful to their cause.

 

[KHUFU]

Yall are making JRepp23 so proud right now.

After we win this war against racism, the next fight will be against sexism and misogyny. I am already aware of those who are on the side of keeping women in their supposed place.

 

[tomdiginson]

After we win this war against racism, the next fight will be against sexism and misogyny. I am already aware of those who are on the side of keeping women in their supposed place.

In pecudis lupus veste.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Continue to feign ignorance. Stop the deception. Women's rights to you is just a buzzword to get positive reception. You don't necessarily care about it outside of some internet reps and e-daps. Advocating to deceive our sisters in appearing to be sympathetic and an ally is not helpful to their cause.

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