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So real talk? What would ya do?

Cast her aside? Tell her go be with her ex? You can’t ride with that?

Ex friend and platonic friend ain’t the same. Not to say ya can’t be friends.
 
Yeah basically. Not saying don't feel what you feel, but not at my expense, i'm going to feel disrespected. Actually dealt with similar and sent them home to deal with it and contiinued with my life. Some days later popped up back with apologies and gifts. Sometimes people don't know when they're out of line, you have to express where your line is, and live with it. Don't have to be a **** about it.
 
Nice to the point you’re a c u c k?

Is she worth that much? Is your self worth and dignity not important? What about loyalty? Respect?
 
Nice to the point you’re a c u c k?

Is she worth that much? Is your self worth and dignity not important? What about loyalty? Respect?
You gotta ask why some of these dudes are like that in the first place. I think a large part of it is because men have such a bad reputation relationship wise, some try to overcompensate by being nice and being able to say to women “I’m not that kind of guy”. Also, some ****** are just simps 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
Can't live for the other guy, neither of you. Something like this will come up early enough to stand your ground and walk away if it makes you uncomfortable. Pining over an ex isn't even an uncommon red flag, means you're not ready. Go deal with it and figure out if you are (i'm assuming a potential serious relationship).
 
Exactly. Crying over her ex. Go!

She’s not into you. I went on a date with a chick. We known each other for a year or two. She reached out to see what’s up. During our meetup she said she sad about her ex...im not going to put time, money and energy into something like that. It’s a fools errand.
 
Exactly. Crying over her ex. Go!

She’s not into you. I went on a date with a chick. We known each other for a year or two. She reached out to see what’s up. During our meetup she said she sad about her ex...im not going to put time, money and energy into something like that. It’s a fools errand.
I’m confused...you sure it was a date? Or did she just want to catch up and then ended up venting? Did you smash?
 
Exactly. Crying over her ex. Go!

She’s not into you. I went on a date with a chick. We known each other for a year or two. She reached out to see what’s up. During our meetup she said she sad about her ex...im not going to put time, money and energy into something like that. It’s a fools errand.

Hope you kicked that “split check” at her :lol
 
I’m confused...you sure it was a date? Or did she just want to catch up and then ended up venting? Did you smash?
Hope you kicked that “split check” at her :lol:
I paid nothing lol.

And she reached out and said what’s up to her old work husband. Was she confused? Maybe. I was clear with my intent. I said it was a date. And when she said what she said. I left it alone.
 
Can't live for the other guy, neither of you. Something like this will come up early enough to stand your ground and walk away if it makes you uncomfortable. Pining over an ex isn't even an uncommon red flag, means you're not ready. Go deal with it and figure out if you are (i'm assuming a potential serious relationship).
This is the best way to handle it. Ask her why she started something with you if she wasn't over her ex and tell her to take time to figure out what she wants.

I once started something with a girl shortly after she broke up with her boyfriend. A few months later she stopped it to take time to herself and figure **** out, then eventually went back to him a few months after that. It is what it is.
 
^^^Yeah.
Can’t be deliberate with one foot in the past, one foot in the future. Also, it’s not fair to you.

And there’s other women you could put your energy into. That are open and receptive.
 
In shorts it is "a simple analogy that related to being "asleep and satisfied with the status quo" (blue pill) or "waking up from the matrix" (red pill)." or self-help.

A better breakdown than what I thought:


Kevin Samuels sounds very mgtow which means men going their own way, and what mgtow means according to their website is "Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't." Basically it's Fight Club. If you've ever seen Fight Club and only clicked w/ the egotistical aspects of the film then you're 99.9% likely to be mgtow.


Very interesting article, it might have over generalized the blue & red pill but i get it.

I would love to know the averages of men who lean towards the blue pill rather then the red. Because as someone who clearly doesn't value relationships as much as my peers i would assume the blue pill is the majority.
 
I think so many dudes are afraid of being labeled "insecure" that they keep their mouthes shut when they encounter situations that bother them. I guess it is "soft" to care so many will just take IT and go along with it.

I think the girl in the Tweet knows that what dude was doing is suckerish.

I always ask girls a simple question to see if they TRULY believe in some of the nonsense they are really saying.

"If dude was your son, how would you view it."

That usually works as a "Truth syrup." (As diego diego once phrased it)
 
How is that an insecure situation? Applying that truth syrup, the clearer question is...

should your son date a woman who isn’t over her ex?

As parents we’re always going to push our children to be the best, best situations or outcomes.

It’s one thing if her son came and took her from the ex...and created that mess...

And humans are habitual line steppers even when they know they’re wrong. As a man, we’ll bs women and say we’re in the midst of a breakup to net that side piece a la Derrick Jaxn. Or we’ll go to a store or dealership and try to talk them down into the best deal for us.
 
I think so many dudes are afraid of being labeled "insecure" that they keep their mouthes shut when they encounter situations that bother them. I guess it is "soft" to care so many will just take IT and go along with it.

I think the girl in the Tweet knows that what dude was doing is suckerish.

I always ask girls a simple question to see if they TRULY believe in some of the nonsense they are really saying.

"If dude was your son, how would you view it."

That usually works as a "Truth syrup." (As diego diego once phrased it)

I think about this every time i see one of the post anytime i hear men get called insecure for not wanting a girl to go out in super revealing outfits.
 
I think about this every time i see one of the post anytime i hear men get called insecure for not wanting a girl to go out in super revealing outfits.
Waits for certain people in the thread to chime in.

Personally, I prefer a modest woman. But not at the detriment of me not being attracted to her when we go out. I think as men we like a fine line. A weird tight rope.

Is it fair?

And in the school of women’s liberation...can we criticize how they dress? It’s like a catch 22. They are trying to attract attention. But then do we cross barriers when we address the attention?

Can old people criticize young folks who sag?
 
I mean if you met her and she dressed like a ho you knew what time it was :lol: Don't wife that and then be like "Why you still dressing like that?" when that's what you wanted :lol:

If she start switching it up though and acting different after yall together I'd have to wonder if she's shopping for a new *****

Like damn girl I aint never seen that dress before. And you say you're wearing that to go to dinner with your friends? That's like the 3rd time this week.... Wait, are you not even wearing panties? What the hell? Yeah I think I'm gonna start hanging out with my "friends" more too. They tell me they miss me, I'm starting to feel bad.
 
Waits for certain people in the thread to chime in.

Personally, I prefer a modest woman. But not at the detriment of me not being attracted to her when we go out. I think as men we like a fine line. A weird tight rope.

Is it fair?

And in the school of women’s liberation...can we criticize how they dress? It’s like a catch 22. They are trying to attract attention. But then do we cross barriers when we address the attention?

Can old people criticize young folks who sag?

Like you said It all varies from person to person where the line is drawn.

Was listening to a pod earlier this week & the discussion of your girl having an only fans was brought up. An argument was made that a man would be insecure if he didn't want his girl on only fans if she is making a good living off of it.

i think people have driven the narrative to be insecurity when in a lot of cases it's a simple preference
 
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