**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

Such a reactionary league.

“Omg they have harden and kyrie and KD. Let’s trade for Russ”

Now it’s “Omg Jokic put up 30/20/10. Trade first round pick this year, 2029 pick, Reaves, christie for Gobert”

Stay the course. Make minor tweaks. Wait for next disgruntled player. Enjoy and be entertained.
 
I mean bringing in CP3 isn’t a terrible idea.
But if he’s your starter, it’s supremely dumb. Regardless of how cheap it may be.

DLo/AR start.
CP3 is there to keep the team afloat for 20-25 minutes a game. Then you can put 10-15 minutes on Max. Not too much required of him.
 
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So three years in a row we will use our MLE on a player nobody expected and is gotten “cheaper” than expected albeit not the best fit

Nunn
Walker
Cp3
 


1. Kyrie Irving, PG, 31, Dallas: $50,555,884
There is a lot more that goes into having Irving on your team than BORD$ is able to process, which is why sentient beings may put a lower value on Irving than my computer formula does. Between injuries, insolence and inoculations (or lack thereof), Irving hasn’t played more than 60 games in a season in four years; he’s only had three seasons in his 12 as a pro that would make him award-eligible (more than 65 games). (Odd fact: When Irving did play, he led the league in minutes per game.)

On the other hand, he’s also an offensive whirlwind who averaged 27 points a game on 63.4 percent true shooting in 20 games as a Maverick last season. Irving’s BORD$ pegs him being worth more than his $46.5 million max for the coming season, but the two more pressing questions are whether the collateral locker room damage is worth it, and whether he can continue to stay this productive on a deal that pushes into his mid-30s.

Given how many teams lack either the cap space to sign Irving or the willingness to put up with him, Dallas may be able to push back and offer him something short of his four-year, $210 million max (let alone the five-year version for $272 million).

Dallas could also go longer on years and shorter on money, which would be appealing from managing its luxury-tax situation. The Mavs are $48 million from the projected tax line before paying Irving a cent and would still have five open roster spots to fill after signing Irving.

As for the Lakers, L.A. can’t get anywhere close to Irving’s max in any realistic cap room scenario. A sign-and-trade, however, would get kind of wacky but is theoretically possible. The Lakers would need to pick up Mo Bamba’s guarantee, guarantee Shaq Harrison’s deal, pick up Malik Beasley’s option and sign their first-round pick (17th). After a month, they could trade the pick along with Bamba, Beasley, Harrison and Max Christie and pay Irving up to $43 million for the first season of a four-year deal totaling $187 million.

There are other permutations, such as including D’Angelo Russell or Rui Hachimura in a sign-and-trade. Sign-and-trading one of Wenyen Gabriel, Troy Brown or Tristan Thompson could also bump up Irving’s first-year salary another $1.5 million or so. (I also am presuming the Lakers would have to throw another pick into this, but it has no cap implications.)

However, a sign-and-trade would also hard cap the Lakers, who would have only four players under contract, need to sign at least 10 more and have only about $40 million to pull it off — including re-signing Austin Reaves and Hachimura. For that reason, the lower Irving’s first-year salary is at the end of the deal, the more plausible a sign-and-trade is from L.A.’s end … but the less plausible it is for Irving.
7. D’Angelo Russell, PG, 27, L.A. Lakers: $26,867,883
This high a valuation for Russell may surprise some people, but despite Russell’s shortcomings as a defender and penetrator, few can match his skill level from middle distance and the 3-point line. Russell shot insanely well this season, with his 54.8 percent mark on 2s being notable for a guard who rarely gets to the rim and his 39.6 percent from 3 a career best. Russell was awful in the Western Conference finals, but he was able to stay on the floor in the first two rounds against Ja Morant and Steph Curry because of his shot making.

Overall he was 41st in offensive BPM this season; most of the guys in the top 40 are on max or near-max deals, and at 27, Russell is entering his prime. I get it if you’re a bit underwhelmed by the idea of Russell in a high-stakes postseason game, but the Lakers could do a lot worse than bringing him back. I should note that his contract also offers sign-and-trade possibilities if the Lakers go looking for upgrades.
12. Austin Reaves, SG, 25, L.A. Lakers (restricted): $22,865,329
Is Austin Reaves worth the max “Gilbert Arenas” offer sheet? It looks like he might be. A breakout star in the Lakers’ run to the conference finals, Reaves is the rare case of a player limited by the so-called Arenas rule because he signed a two-year contract when he entered the league.

That limits him to signing with the Lakers for the league’s average salary, projected at $12 million a year. However, an offer sheet from another team has different rules. It can pay him the midlevel exception in the first two years, (starting at $11.4 million), and the max salary in the third and fourth years of the contract, which would come in at $36.8 and $38.5 million, respectively.

Such an offer sheet would pay him a total of $98 million over four years, which is not entirely out of line with his BORD$ valuation. The twist is that the Lakers can’t offer this to Reaves: The maximum L.A. can do on its own is $53 million over four years. That larger deal would have to come in the form of an offer sheet from another team, one with at least $25 million in cap space. There are softer versions of this that are possible; for example, bumping up the third and fourth years to a mere $25 million would require only $18 million in cap room.

The good news for the Lakers is that their cap sheet can handle this offer sheet structure, because the Reaves salary bump would happen right as LeBron James’s contract expires (if he picks up his player option) at the end of 2025. That makes it less likely another team will offer it — why burn three days of free agency on an offer sheet that will just get matched? — and likely leave L.A. in a strong position to retain Reaves at midlevel exception-type money.

Rui didn't make the list. He's never been a stats darling because he's been so dependent on middies and doesn't do enough else.
 
Don't mind CP3 on a vet a minimum, but got to realize at this point in his career, he's washed. In playoffs he's been a target cause he's small. If teams can't get anything going offensively, they just target him and get good looks. He's also got injured every year for several years
 
pdino said:
Don't mind CP3 on a vet a minimum, but got to realize at this point in his career, he's washed. In playoffs he's been a target cause he's small. If teams can't get anything going offensively, they just target him and get good looks. He's also got injured every year for several years
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Anything more than tpMLE is terrible move for a contender unless it’s one with nothing to lose.

I doubt he takes less than the NTPmLE (12 mill)
 
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If we end up getting cp3 as our starting pg I’m gonna be pissed


Vet minimum off the bench cp3 yes though
 
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