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[tee99]

Originally Posted by HAM CITY

Originally Posted by Matt53

Originally Posted by MoonMan818

Don't Mormons believe that black or "colored" people are cursed?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does someone get away with practicing a religion like that today?

[h2]Are there restrictions based on race or color concerning who can join The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and have the priesthood?[/h2]

There are no race or color restrictions as to who can join The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are also no race or color restrictions as to who can have the priesthood in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

An official declaration of the Church states, “every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color.

 

[solarius49]

Originally Posted by mrgrapes85

Originally Posted by MoonMan818

Don't Mormons believe that black or "colored" people are cursed?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does someone get away with practicing a religion like that today?

Not at all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mormons#Notable_early_black_Mormons

lol wut
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2 Nephi 5:21

"And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Alma 3: 6
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon thembecause of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3 Nephi 2:14-15
" And it came to pass that those Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Moses 7:22[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.[/font]

 

[dipsetgeneral]

Originally Posted by solarius49

Originally Posted by mrgrapes85

Originally Posted by MoonMan818

Don't Mormons believe that black or "colored" people are cursed?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does someone get away with practicing a religion like that today?

Not at all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mormons#Notable_early_black_Mormons

lol wut
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2 Nephi 5:21

"And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Alma 3: 6
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon thembecause of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3 Nephi 2:14-15
" And it came to pass that those Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Moses 7:22[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.[/font]

Wow, what the heck?
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Yeah I don't understand this religion. Thanks for the thread though, I wanna know what they believe in, and don't believe in.

 

[stay lurkin]

Well, blacks couldn't completely be members until like 1977 so.......I tell Mormons (in live in Utah) that they can keep their religion

 

[buggz05]

I just want to check in to this

Edit:

What I find is hilarious, is that racist Christians will swear that Obama is a muslim; therefor they will vote for the Mormon.

 

[matt53]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

Originally Posted by solarius49

Originally Posted by mrgrapes85


Not at all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mormons#Notable_early_black_Mormons

lol wut
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2 Nephi 5:21

"And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Alma 3: 6
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon thembecause of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3 Nephi 2:14-15
" And it came to pass that those Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Moses 7:22[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.[/font]

Wow, what the heck?
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Yeah I don't understand this religion. Thanks for the thread though, I wanna know what they believe in, and don't believe in.

You are entirely taking those verses outta context.

"Although the curse of the Lamanites is often associated directly with their skin color, it may be that this was intended in a far more symbolic sense than modern American members traditionally assumed.

The curse itself came upon them as a result of their rejection of the Gospel. It was possible to be subject to the curse, and to be given a mark, without it being associated with a change in skin color, as demonstrated in the case of the Amlicites. The curse is apparently a separation from the Lord. A close reading of the Book of Mormon text makes it untenable to consider that literal skin color was ever the "curse." At most, the skin color was seen as a mark, and it may well have been that these labels were far more symbolic and cultural than they were literal."

(copy + pasted, full article: http://en.fairmormon.org/..._Mormon/Lamanites/Curse)

 

[stay lurkin]

^^^well, I guess Mormons took it out of context as well because they acted on it.

 

[rick2345]

Posting for later this is getting good

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Originally Posted by Scientific Method

Originally Posted by a55a5in11

i played in the mormon basketball league even though im not mormon. refs sucked

I played pickup with some Mormons in Elgin and they made up some rule where 1 person can only score 3 pts in a game because they were losing and had all the "elders" on the team and therefore everyone else had to just accept it with no argument. %%#+ was wacksauce. I had like 3 of the first 4, then couldn't figure out what I was supposed to do now; ended up leaving. They might be Jehovah Witness's in hindsight. It's 1 of the 2, my guy Justin told me if anyone asked to lie and say I "study" with him.

I played pick up at a Mormon church every wednesday night from 9-12ish. My experience was completely different from yours. The mormons there were pretty good a few actually played at BYU and one of em made it to Europe. Anyways, their style of play was honestly the most physical, borderline dirty I had ever played in my life

like the only way you were going to call a foul was if you got pushed thru the sliding door and into the congregation of the church

playing there really toughened me up

Only dudes that would that would cause trouble were the random non mormon dudes that would hear about it and show up and couldn't handle the aggressive play. 
Actually the on dumb rule they had was no 3s

but that rule was only in effect when there was an elder playing with us. And I do like the mormons, they're nice folks and growing up in a mid-upperclass predominantly white area a lot of my childhood friends are mormon; the religion is kinda wonky to me, but I'm not gonna judge. And having hung around those guys for so long I really don't think they believe in the stereotypes all you guys are blindly sillyputtying around.

 

[buggz05]

Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

^^^well, I guess Mormons took it out of context as well because they acted on it.

 

[me no pass]

Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

Well, blacks couldn't completely be members until like 1977 so.......I tell Mormons (in live in Utah) that they can keep their religion

do you think they treat you differently?  have you ever talked to them bout the whole dark skin thing?

 

[stay lurkin]

Originally Posted by ME NO PASS

Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

Well, blacks couldn't completely be members until like 1977 so.......I tell Mormons (in live in Utah) that they can keep their religion

do you think they treat you differently?  have you ever talked to them bout the whole dark skin thing?

Umm, I am not so sure that they treat me any differently, they are just hella ignorant and VERY judgmental out here. PERIOD. Their religion teaches them that basically only temple worthy Mormons can go to the highest kingdom (heaven) and everyone else in the world are basically just screwed

. Knowing that, i can't help but think that they ultimately think they are better than me. On average, they just don't know anything else besides white people and Mormonism. Even the out of state Mormons come here and are like 

. 
As far the whole dark skin thing, I have had this convo a million times and they basically have no answers. It is just some messed up crap that happened in their history and continued to happen (IMO) for too long.

Now they are trying recruit color by converting and bringing over all these Polynesians and adopting blacks 

. They are starting to cut back on the Polys because that conversion doesn't last longer than a year and they (the Polynesians) are responsible for most gangs in the valley area. They have been causing HAVOC son 

And I can't wait until these adopted african/african american kids are grown folks. I have nothing against them adopting I am just interested to see how they turn out 20 years from now. 

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

They are starting to cut back on the Polys because that conversion doesn't last longer than a year and they (the Polynesians) are responsible for most gangs in the valley area. They have been causing HAVOC son 

them islander boys know exactly what they are doing

now that I think of it, one of my best friends parents did adopt 2 pair of islander girls like 6 years ago

 

didn't even think much of it at the time

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Can't wait to see this when it comes to LA:

The southpark episode about Joesph Smith is a classic.

I don't have anything against Mormons as people. Every one i've ever known has been a fantastic human being. However, I think their belief structure and religion is total garbage.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

I don't have anything against Mormons as people. Ever one i've ever known has been a fantastic human being. However, I think their belief structure and religion is total garbage.

well put.
OP just wanted to know if there were any other LDS members on NT and yall are on the offensive

 

[stay lurkin]

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Can't wait to see this when it comes to LA:

The southpark episode about Joesph Smith is a classic.

I don't have anything against Mormons as people. Every one i've ever known has been a fantastic human being. However, I think their belief structure and religion is total garbage.

This is exactly how I feel. You could not have said it any better

 

[DrizzyNYC]

Originally Posted by solarius49

Originally Posted by mrgrapes85

Originally Posted by MoonMan818

Don't Mormons believe that black or "colored" people are cursed?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does someone get away with practicing a religion like that today?

Not at all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mormons#Notable_early_black_Mormons

lol wut
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2 Nephi 5:21

"And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Alma 3: 6
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon thembecause of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3 Nephi 2:14-15
" And it came to pass that those Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Moses 7:22[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.[/font]

Lmaooo dude said not at all and links you to a wiki page of black people who are mormons

 

[stay lurkin]

Where are they at? I am ready to scrap son

 

[me no pass]

i was wondering about how polynesieans became compressed in the mormon religion

isnt there a BYU-Hawaii?

 

[Deleted member 38182]

yes

 

[stay lurkin]

Originally Posted by ME NO PASS

i was wondering about how polynesieans became compressed in the mormon religion

isnt there a BYU-Hawaii?

It is culture bro. Polynesians are heavy on family and so are mormons. That is where they make their sale, because it make sense. 
My brotha in law is straight samoan. I mean, straight rugby, Invictus, whole pig roasting on a tuesday morning playa. And through the lds, Mormonism is how he came to Americas. Trust me, I KNOW THIS 

 

[moe200069]

slam my door in their face. mormons can park their damn corolla's in some other neighborhood and go bother someone else.

 

[stay lurkin]

Originally Posted by moe200069

slam my door in their face. mormons can park their damn corolla's in some other neighborhood and go bother someone else.

 

[mrgrapes85]

Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

Originally Posted by moe200069

slam my door in their face. mormons can park their damn corolla's in some other neighborhood and go bother someone else.

I don't get it...

 

[the takeover]

Damn, this is tripping me out now because I'm black and I used to hang out with my white homeboy whose whole family are Mormons

They were some nice people though, never once treated me differently because of race.