Man of Steel (Superman Movie Thread) - June 14, 2013 - NEW Trailer pg20

oh my bad i meant to say lens crafters prescription bifocals. thats supermans disguise. some dapper dan hair pomade and 20$ reading glasses. thats how everyone in metropolis is fooled. lol
 
There are three people who know both Clark Kent and Superman and spend any significant amount of time with them:

Lois - Who finds out the secret eventually
Jimmy - Who, if he knows, isn't going to say anything to anyone
Lex - Who can't fathom someone with Superman's powers wanting to pretend to be normal so he doesn't even think he has a secret identity.

Most people don't know what Clark Kent looks like. Do you know what any random writer for the New York Times or Wall Street Journal looks like? Even if they have a Pulitzer it'd be hard to pick them out of a line up. Superman interacts with people when he's saving them or flying past them if you ever look at him you're probably not in the emotional state to recognize minute details about his face. And even if people thought Clark Kent and Superman looked alike so what? A lot of people do; they're both tall, well built dudes with black hair and blue eyes. Guess what? There's a crap ton of guys who look like that. Kent's not bulging out of his suit and towering over people, he's a former high school football player who grew up on a farm, no one thinks him being muscular is weird.

Superman also tells everyone where he lives and what his real name is anyway. His name is Kal-El and he lives in the Fortress of Solitude; he also doesn't wear a mask so no one thinks Superman is hiding anything so they don't go looking for anything
 
superman returns was actually pretty good, could have been a lot better

kate bosworth's acting, the whole plot of superman and lois lane having an illegitimate child, lex's luthors unoriginal real state plot, and basically not enough action for an actual action movie.

most people wanted more from the film and left witha "that's it" feeling.

hopefully man of steel at least lives up to expectations.
 
Originally Posted by Battousai701

superman returns was actually pretty good, could have been a lot better

kate bosworth's acting, the whole plot of superman and lois lane having an illegitimate child, lex's luthors unoriginal real state plot, and basically not enough action for an actual action movie.

most people wanted more from the film and left witha "that's it" feeling.

hopefully man of steel at least lives up to expectations.

I feel that the film wasn't so bad, just needed to get rid of the kid, punch someone and cut the film by 15-20min. Although I liked the idea of Supes being hospitalized and the people uniting for his recovery and such, it felt it really dragged and seemed unnecessary. 
 
Originally Posted by Falcon4567

There are three people who know both Clark Kent and Superman and spend any significant amount of time with them:

Lois - Who finds out the secret eventually
Jimmy - Who, if he knows, isn't going to say anything to anyone
Lex - Who can't fathom someone with Superman's powers wanting to pretend to be normal so he doesn't even think he has a secret identity.

Most people don't know what Clark Kent looks like. Do you know what any random writer for the New York Times or Wall Street Journal looks like? Even if they have a Pulitzer it'd be hard to pick them out of a line up. Superman interacts with people when he's saving them or flying past them if you ever look at him you're probably not in the emotional state to recognize minute details about his face. And even if people thought Clark Kent and Superman looked alike so what? A lot of people do; they're both tall, well built dudes with black hair and blue eyes. Guess what? There's a crap ton of guys who look like that. Kent's not bulging out of his suit and towering over people, he's a former high school football player who grew up on a farm, no one thinks him being muscular is weird.

Superman also tells everyone where he lives and what his real name is anyway. His name is Kal-El and he lives in the Fortress of Solitude; he also doesn't wear a mask so no one thinks Superman is hiding anything so they don't go looking for anything
his disguise is a pair of reading glasses
as superman hes always flirting with lois lane and she's all over him but she thinks clark kent is a dork. and when he becomes clark kent he loses all his swag and self confidence. 
 
So you basically decided to ignore everything I wrote and fall back on a 60 year old joke? Good for you.
 
what 60 year old joke.. how is his disguise being eyeglasses a joke. he has a different identity as a boring reporter named clark kent. and he does this by wearing eye glasses.
lol @ "emotional states" smh. this is a comic book character btw.
 
"LOL How does no one see past his glasses?" is the oldest joke about Superman after "Why does he wear underwear OUTSIDE his pants?" it's stupid; there's plenty of reasons why the disguise works and I outlined them for you but you chose to ignore them and go on with the thinking that its dumb when it's not. The disguise works because he's hiding in plain sight.
 
Saw the teaser trailer and to be honest there was nothing in there that really wowed me, it's almost a carbon-copy of of the SR trailer if anything with the Jor-El voiceover etc. Only difference seems to be that they are going for an angst/struggling to find his place in the world approach rather than Donner's "father becomes the son" theme this time around.

Still not convinced about Henry Cavill or Michael Shannon yet either -again, I'll need to see more footage to get a feel of how they're gonna play it and of course how Shannon is actually going to look as Zod with he CGI and everything. Personally, I don't need to have Faora in there as well, I can't help but feel she was added for the T&A appeal only -would've preferred Zod to be a psychotic/loner, more akin to the Smallville portrayal.

I want to get excited, I really do but the pessimist in me is holding back until I see more.
 
Originally Posted by FIREPOWER23

Saw the teaser trailer and to be honest there was nothing in there that really wowed me, it's almost a carbon-copy of of the SR trailer if anything with the Jor-El voiceover etc. Only difference seems to be that they are going for an angst/struggling to find his place in the world approach rather than Donner's "father becomes the son" theme this time around.

Still not convinced about Henry Cavill or Michael Shannon yet either -again, I'll need to see more footage to get a feel of how they're gonna play it and of course how Shannon is actually going to look as Zod with he CGI and everything. Personally, I don't need to have Faora in there as well, I can't help but feel she was added for the T&A appeal only -would've preferred Zod to be a psychotic/loner, more akin to the Smallville portrayal.

I want to get excited, I really do but the pessimist in me is holding back until I see more.

The reference I keep reading is that it has a very Batman Begins feel, somewhat dark and conflicted origins story. 
Also, how did you feel about the interesting scenes. Like Supes being arrested/escorted by the army, crawling up a pile of skulls and just the whole "they will fear me" notion of the film?

I think those are some very interesting visuals that most may not come to expect. 
 
Originally Posted by RFX45

Originally Posted by Battousai701

superman returns was actually pretty good, could have been a lot better

kate bosworth's acting, the whole plot of superman and lois lane having an illegitimate child, lex's luthors unoriginal real state plot, and basically not enough action for an actual action movie.

most people wanted more from the film and left witha "that's it" feeling.

hopefully man of steel at least lives up to expectations.

I feel that the film wasn't so bad, just needed to get rid of the kid, punch someone and cut the film by 15-20min. Although I liked the idea of Supes being hospitalized and the people uniting for his recovery and such, it felt it really dragged and seemed unnecessary. 

yeah that lil kid was mad annoying. superman's passive approach against his enemies was somewhat understandable,but overall was a bit of a let down.

i like the new director's approach: "superman beating the shhhh outta people"
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the only time superman is gonna go all out is when he fights doomsday or darkseid. now when they make that into a live action film, then its gonna be 
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Originally Posted by Battousai701

the only time superman is gonna go all out is when he fights doomsday or darkseid. now when they make that into a live action film, then its gonna be 
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I think he can unleash a few frustration punches at Zod. One key scene they showed in the teaser was Superman being thrown at a bank vault so it looks like there is someone the who can go toe to toe with him, which is suppose to be Zod even though Snyder wouldn't admit to him being a villain.
 
They're going with the emphasis on him being an alien and trying to fit in, how does he be accepted etc. -it worked on a smaller scale for Smallville and obviously they're going down that road, except of course this will be his introduction to the whole planet rather than just trying to fit into high school.

-So yeah, I like what I've heard Snyder and co are trying to do with a "darker" genesis/origin reboot ...it's just whether they'll pull it off or not. Just because it sounds good on paper, doesn't necessarily mean it'll come to fruition on screen.

As for the skulls sequence, I have no idea where that was -I can only assume it was some kind of dream sequence?

The police arrest could be a dream sequence again -or he just lets them arrest him as a symbolic gesture, who knows?

-again, this is why I'm holding off my excitement until I see more reveals. 

Superman is my favorite comic character, so I want this movie to be perfect.
 
Any word if the film would be inspired by a certain arc or one shot (like Batman Begins is to Year One)?
 
Originally Posted by donmega

Any word if the film would be inspired by a certain arc or one shot (like Batman Begins is to Year One)?

Snyder stated it is a mash up of different Supermn arc and there was no focus on one single arc. Take it with a grain of salt though.
 
Originally Posted by RFX45

Originally Posted by donmega

Any word if the film would be inspired by a certain arc or one shot (like Batman Begins is to Year One)?

Snyder stated it is a mash up of different Supermn arc and there was no focus on one single arc. Take it with a grain of salt though.
That'd be nice! I really hope that this incarnation would do wonders for the franchise. I was never that big of Superman fan, but I think the next generation would need a "Superman" they can somewhat relate to... or call their own. Kind of like what Christopher Reeves (and to a certain extent, Dean Caine)  is to mine.
 
A member on SHH Forums has this take on the teaser and part of the story they are dealing with in the film.

The only unique angle presented (something we truly haven't seen before) is a Superman movie set in a post 9/11 environment. How the world, under those circumstances, would react to an all-powerful, human-looking alien flying around the world wearing a foreign suit with an unidentifiable language.

The questions people would ask, "Why is he here?" and most importantly, "Is he a threat?" That is interesting.



And I agree, that is an interesting concept that most of us can relate to. The concept does have some Nolan-eque feeling to it so we'll see how it translate on the big screen.
 
Originally Posted by RFX45

I did read all you've posted and the links and it said nothing specific about underpants at all. All my response is base on that.
But eh, I'm just a "glass is half full" and a "innocent until proven guilty" kind of guy, I don't necessarily look for what is wrong in everything.
But both articles specifically mention the costume part involved in the case though. Are we gonna act like the underwear is the only thing different about this current costume? If you were specifically reading both articles looking for the word underwear like that's not directly associated with the word costume I don't know what to tell you, seems like semantics.
 
Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by RFX45

I did read all you've posted and the links and it said nothing specific about underpants at all. All my response is base on that.
But eh, I'm just a "glass is half full" and a "innocent until proven guilty" kind of guy, I don't necessarily look for what is wrong in everything.
But both articles specifically mention the costume part involved in the case though. Are we gonna act like the underwear is the only thing different about this current costume? If you were specifically reading both articles looking for the word underwear like that's not directly associated with the word costume I don't know what to tell you, seems like semantics.
The point is the underwear and that is what you pointed out and why they removed it. If the point is to change the costume to comply, then they'd have to remove the \S/, the most important and significant part of the suit. But that isn't the case. I see it as a design change by Snyder and Nolan and DC/WB and not due to legal actions because it make no sense to change tidbits when they have the rights to everything still. I see it as simple as that. Plus if I were WB/DC and I know this might be the last I get to represent Superman with the iconic look, then I wouldn't change it at all and go out swinging because as you said, there are no re-precautions. I'll capitalize and make money on it as much as I can. Obviously DC/WB are confident in getting the rights back because from the articles I've read, it seems that it is just the Siegel/Schuster lawyer that is causing all the problem. He even hid some documents and files that he didn't want used in the case, which DC won so they'll be able to use it for their defense. 
But I already gave up. You win. You aren't getting what I am saying and your logic isn't making much sense to me. No one is going to win so it's best to end the conversation on the subject now.
 
Originally Posted by RFX45

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by RFX45

I did read all you've posted and the links and it said nothing specific about underpants at all. All my response is base on that.
But eh, I'm just a "glass is half full" and a "innocent until proven guilty" kind of guy, I don't necessarily look for what is wrong in everything.
But both articles specifically mention the costume part involved in the case though. Are we gonna act like the underwear is the only thing different about this current costume? If you were specifically reading both articles looking for the word underwear like that's not directly associated with the word costume I don't know what to tell you, seems like semantics.
The point is the underwear and that is what you pointed out and why they removed it. If the point is to change the costume to comply, then they'd have to remove the \S/, the most important and significant part of the suit. But that isn't the case. I see it as a design change by Snyder and Nolan and DC/WB and not due to legal actions because it make no sense to change tidbits when they have the rights to everything still. I see it as simple as that. Plus if I were WB/DC and I know this might be the last I get to represent Superman with the iconic look, then I wouldn't change it at all and go out swinging because as you said, there are no re-precautions. I'll capitalize and make money on it as much as I can. Obviously DC/WB are confident in getting the rights back because from the articles I've read, it seems that it is just the Siegel/Schuster lawyer that is causing all the problem. He even hid some documents and files that he didn't want used in the case, which DC won so they'll be able to use it for their defense. 
But I already gave up. You win. You aren't getting what I am saying and your logic isn't making much sense to me. No one is going to win so it's best to end the conversation on the subject now.
Again if you're still saying this I don't think you read my post. I already addressed that twice.

I got what you're saying and replied to it but I guess you either didn't read it or it doesn't make sense to you. It's not really about winning though. All I did was restate and paraphrase what I've read in a few articles pertaining to the topic.
 
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