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Yeah that's because of that letter and dark disney joke he made. I ran through the series at the beginning of the Pandemic and I need it to come back.
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‘We’re going to Disneyland.’ EZ replies: ‘Yeah? Guess this is where Walt buried all the Jews he had killed.’ Coco comments: ‘That’s dark man.’ And exits.”
Kurt Sutter Wrote Anti-Disney Jokes Into ‘Mayans M.C.’ to Protest Disney-Fox Merger
Sutter tells Deadline the controversial jokes were the inciting incident that led him to getting fired from his FX original drama series.
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It was like he wanted to be fired. Let me find the letter he wrote.‘We’re going to Disneyland.’ EZ replies: ‘Yeah? Guess this is where Walt buried all the Jews he had killed.’ Coco comments: ‘That’s dark man.’ And exits.”
Kurt Sutter Wrote Anti-Disney Jokes Into ‘Mayans M.C.’ to Protest Disney-Fox Merger
Sutter tells Deadline the controversial jokes were the inciting incident that led him to getting fired from his FX original drama series.
Nope I posted it in here a few pages back
Supposedly he sent another letter out to close friends about this. If I can find the info again I'll post it.
EDIT: Found it
Kurt Sutter Reveals Backstory Of His Firing From ‘Mayans M.C.’: “Clearly I Ruffled A Few Mouse Ears”
Kurt Sutter Reveals Backstory Of His Firing From ‘Mayans M.C.’: “Clearly I Ruffled A Few Mouse Ears”
Kurt Sutter Reveals Backstory Of His Firing From ‘Mayans MC': "Clearly I Ruffled A Few Mouse Ears"deadline.com
The big picture. If anyone cares.
Thanks for taking a look.
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Let me begin by saying, I know who I am. I know the impact of my process. I’m intense and passionate. I take what I do very seriously. That’s what having a vision manifests. And if you **** with that vision, I’m gonna push back. When I’m right, I let the work speak for itself. When I’m wrong, I own it, make amends and fix it.
I pride myself on having a supportive and empowering set. I try to acknowledge all the hard work everyone does. I’m clear that it’s a collaborative effort. And I try to pass that philosophy down to my writers and producers so they do the same.
Disney letting me go today was apparently based on data collected by HR and Business Affairs from writers, producers, cast and crew. They claim the intel suggests that I created a climate of hostility, favoritism and enabled a set where no one felt safe or appreciated. I know that’s not true. I’m not saying it was all sunshine and roses, but I’m close with most of those guys and they love going to work. I’m also not sure how, having been on set… maybe three times all season, I was able to singularly create that much damage.
What I do own, what I see now in hindsight, is that detaching myself so much this season was a mistake. I understand how it was perceived as me sticking my head in the sand. And that people felt like no one was steering the ship. But that wasn’t a management error on my part, it was a creative decision to empower Elgin and the future of the show. The reason I decided to do it, was because the network forced me to hire a directing EP to run the production end. So I did. He came in with a lot of experience and his enthusiasm gave me confidence he could do the job. So, with Elgin, the new EP in place, and with Jon Pare our great line producer, I stayed focused on story, writing and post.
Never did I think the ship was off course until after mid season when I suddenly was bombarded with unfavorable reports about the tension on set. I am not going to mention names, because I don’t want to point fingers. So yes, there were complaints. And ultimately whomever they are about lands on me to fix. That’s when I contacted the network to let them know. They told me they’d look into it. And to sit tight. So I did.
Who I have been hard on this season is the studio and network. I’ve felt the creative scrutiny of Disney from day one. Notes on scripts and cuts have been heavy handed. Demanding a level of dumbing-down story and inane PC restraints like I’ve never experienced before. I genuinely feared for the creative future of the storytelling. So I pushed back.Hard. No different than I have in the past. In fact, much tamer than I ever was on SOA. However, I was dealing with personnel who didn’t know me. And my level of… passion. Clearly I ruffled a few mouse ears.
I know my role at Mayans MC was going to be greatly reduced. I am handing off the show to Elgin. So it’s not the job that’s the issue.
What pisses me off, what hurts the most, is that John Landgraf and Dana Walden sat across from me and sited a summary of a slanted truth formulated by lawyers and clerks. They blamed my dismissal on the cast and crew.
People I care about. People I respect. They had no first hand knowledge of anything they were saying. They’ve never been on set or spoken to any of my people. I’m not saying all of the intel was bull****. But I know that’s not why I was fired. The truth is, the suits wanted me gone. I stepped on toes and bruised egos. And in this Disney regime, I’m dangerous to the wholesome brand. And clearly not worth the trouble. So 18 years of friendship, loyalty and producing quality television, was flushed down the drain. They threw me under the ****ing bus.
I send this diatribe because I feel deeply wronged. They embarrassed me. They created a false narrative that could damage my reputation and career. I want them to understand the depth of that mistake.
Talk soon.
Thanks.
ks
sutterink
Thanks for taking a look.
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Let me begin by saying, I know who I am. I know the impact of my process. I’m intense and passionate. I take what I do very seriously. That’s what having a vision manifests. And if you **** with that vision, I’m gonna push back. When I’m right, I let the work speak for itself. When I’m wrong, I own it, make amends and fix it.
I pride myself on having a supportive and empowering set. I try to acknowledge all the hard work everyone does. I’m clear that it’s a collaborative effort. And I try to pass that philosophy down to my writers and producers so they do the same.
Disney letting me go today was apparently based on data collected by HR and Business Affairs from writers, producers, cast and crew. They claim the intel suggests that I created a climate of hostility, favoritism and enabled a set where no one felt safe or appreciated. I know that’s not true. I’m not saying it was all sunshine and roses, but I’m close with most of those guys and they love going to work. I’m also not sure how, having been on set… maybe three times all season, I was able to singularly create that much damage.
What I do own, what I see now in hindsight, is that detaching myself so much this season was a mistake. I understand how it was perceived as me sticking my head in the sand. And that people felt like no one was steering the ship. But that wasn’t a management error on my part, it was a creative decision to empower Elgin and the future of the show. The reason I decided to do it, was because the network forced me to hire a directing EP to run the production end. So I did. He came in with a lot of experience and his enthusiasm gave me confidence he could do the job. So, with Elgin, the new EP in place, and with Jon Pare our great line producer, I stayed focused on story, writing and post.
Never did I think the ship was off course until after mid season when I suddenly was bombarded with unfavorable reports about the tension on set. I am not going to mention names, because I don’t want to point fingers. So yes, there were complaints. And ultimately whomever they are about lands on me to fix. That’s when I contacted the network to let them know. They told me they’d look into it. And to sit tight. So I did.
Who I have been hard on this season is the studio and network. I’ve felt the creative scrutiny of Disney from day one. Notes on scripts and cuts have been heavy handed. Demanding a level of dumbing-down story and inane PC restraints like I’ve never experienced before. I genuinely feared for the creative future of the storytelling. So I pushed back.Hard. No different than I have in the past. In fact, much tamer than I ever was on SOA. However, I was dealing with personnel who didn’t know me. And my level of… passion. Clearly I ruffled a few mouse ears.
I know my role at Mayans MC was going to be greatly reduced. I am handing off the show to Elgin. So it’s not the job that’s the issue.
What pisses me off, what hurts the most, is that John Landgraf and Dana Walden sat across from me and sited a summary of a slanted truth formulated by lawyers and clerks. They blamed my dismissal on the cast and crew.
People I care about. People I respect. They had no first hand knowledge of anything they were saying. They’ve never been on set or spoken to any of my people. I’m not saying all of the intel was bull****. But I know that’s not why I was fired. The truth is, the suits wanted me gone. I stepped on toes and bruised egos. And in this Disney regime, I’m dangerous to the wholesome brand. And clearly not worth the trouble. So 18 years of friendship, loyalty and producing quality television, was flushed down the drain. They threw me under the ****ing bus.
I send this diatribe because I feel deeply wronged. They embarrassed me. They created a false narrative that could damage my reputation and career. I want them to understand the depth of that mistake.
Talk soon.
Thanks.
ks
sutterink
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Nooo they can't finish off the series until I get a 1-9er spin off lol.
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The series isn't cancelled. They went ahead and hired a Mexican showrunner that was already working on the show right after Sutter's firing.
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All these shows delayed due to Corona...Might as well forget any regular schedule for whatever series you watching for a min
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Yeah it def sounds like he wanted to get fired and not be associated with the final dumbed down product under Disney constraints
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Hmm, might check it out now, maybe it won't go the SOA route.
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I thought i read something they were working on it just delayed due to Covid.
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I love the show i need to know what happens next. Also i lowkey have a crush on EZ
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I feel like Sutter is good writer but every once in awhile he goes too far just to shock people when it’s not necessary. I think the show can survive without him.
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Mayans M.C. premieres Tuesday, March 16 at 10 PM ET/PT on FX with the first two episodes of its 10-episode third season
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Surprised they pulled this off. I thought for sure the show would get canned after the Kurt Sutter firing and the pandemic. When did they even have time to film an entire season?
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Finally! I binged the last two seasons at the beginning of the Panny.
I mean Sutter was only half of the team that brought us this. The Show Runner is still around. If they allowing him his vision and paying him, I would expect him to stay and continue.
Honestly believe FX/Disney was trying to tone down the worst of Sutter cause lets be real, homie sometimes goes overboard.
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They specifically said the series would continue after Sutter got the boot.
Might not get a 4th season though.
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Snowfall and Mayans returning!! FX Byke 
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Is this on any streaming services?
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'Sons of Anarchy' Character Seemingly Dies in 'Mayans M.C.' Season 3 Trailer
FX dropped the first trailer for Mayans M.C. Season 3 on Monday, sparking excitement among viewers [...]
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One more day ladies and gents.
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Looking forward to the double season premiere. Guessing there will be some SOA cameos?
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There was a double premiere? Two episodes?
Man it's been so long I lost interest in this show. Maybe I'll let the whole season air then watch it all in like one week.