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there arent that many SUPERstars to begin with.....unless you are using that term loosely...there is only like handful of superstars to begin with....so a lot of school therefore havent produced superstars...
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there arent that many SUPERstars to begin with.....unless you are using that term loosely...there is only like handful of superstars to begin with....so a lot of school therefore havent produced superstars...
- Aug 12, 2004
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there arent that many SUPERstars to begin with.....unless you are using that term loosely...there is only like handful of superstars to begin with....so a lot of school therefore havent produced superstars...
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Alot of ya underestimating Irving. Dude is going to be a baller
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Alot of ya underestimating Irving. Dude is going to be a baller
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
I'd look at any college team that produced more superstars. Duke has produced none.
I don't follow your argument because it went from "Duke's track record is horrible" to "Duke has produced (no superstars)."
I asked, "which college program has produced a better stable of talent in the NBA?" I didn't ask, "which college program has produced more superstars?"
When you use "track record," you automatically incorporate historical consistency. And history indicates that Duke is just as good, if not better, at consistently producing NBA talent in comparison to other college programs.
However, since you'd like to use "track record" as an indicator with "superstar" as the outcome...
What college program do you know of has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
Because I don't know any college programs that have been consistent in producing "superstar" talent in recent memory seeing as though the NBA is dominated by players drafted from high school and overseas.
And I'll define "superstar" as a player possessing "MVP or All-NBA team type talent":
Once again...
- Marquette has produced Dwyane Wade (25 ppg), Wesley Mathews (13), Lazar Hayward (4), Steve Novak (4), and Travis Diener (no longer in the NBA). That would be 1 superstar.
- A good example is Wake Forest: Tim Duncan (21 ppg), Chris Paul (19), Josh Howard (15), Darius Songalia (7), Al-Farouq Aminu (6), James Johnson (5), Jeff Teague (4), and Ishmael Smith (2). That is two superstars mixed with several serviceable players.
- For comparison, Duke: Elton Brand (19 ppg), Grant Hill (1
, Carlos Boozer (17 ppg), Corey Maggette (16), Luol Deng (16), Mike Dunleavy (12), Shane Battier (10), J.J. Redick (
, Gerald Henderson (7), Chris Duhon (7), Dahntay Jones (6), Josh McRoberts (5), Shelden Williams (5). Brand (2nd), Hill (1st), and Boozer (3rd) have been All-NBA with the rest being serviceable. I'd stack Duke's alumni against any other college program in recent memory.
What college program do you know of that has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
And if/when you reply, I'd like to see your definition of "superstar."
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
I'd look at any college team that produced more superstars. Duke has produced none.
I don't follow your argument because it went from "Duke's track record is horrible" to "Duke has produced (no superstars)."
I asked, "which college program has produced a better stable of talent in the NBA?" I didn't ask, "which college program has produced more superstars?"
When you use "track record," you automatically incorporate historical consistency. And history indicates that Duke is just as good, if not better, at consistently producing NBA talent in comparison to other college programs.
However, since you'd like to use "track record" as an indicator with "superstar" as the outcome...
What college program do you know of has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
Because I don't know any college programs that have been consistent in producing "superstar" talent in recent memory seeing as though the NBA is dominated by players drafted from high school and overseas.
And I'll define "superstar" as a player possessing "MVP or All-NBA team type talent":
Once again...
- Marquette has produced Dwyane Wade (25 ppg), Wesley Mathews (13), Lazar Hayward (4), Steve Novak (4), and Travis Diener (no longer in the NBA). That would be 1 superstar.
- A good example is Wake Forest: Tim Duncan (21 ppg), Chris Paul (19), Josh Howard (15), Darius Songalia (7), Al-Farouq Aminu (6), James Johnson (5), Jeff Teague (4), and Ishmael Smith (2). That is two superstars mixed with several serviceable players.
- For comparison, Duke: Elton Brand (19 ppg), Grant Hill (1
, Gerald Henderson (7), Chris Duhon (7), Dahntay Jones (6), Josh McRoberts (5), Shelden Williams (5). Brand (2nd), Hill (1st), and Boozer (3rd) have been All-NBA with the rest being serviceable. I'd stack Duke's alumni against any other college program in recent memory.
What college program do you know of that has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
And if/when you reply, I'd like to see your definition of "superstar."
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I don't follow your argument because it went from "Duke's track record is horrible" to "Duke has produced (no superstars)."
I asked, "which college program has produced a better stable of talent in the NBA?" I didn't ask, "which college program has produced more superstars?"
When you use "track record," you automatically incorporate historical consistency. And history indicates that Duke is just as good, if not better, at consistently producing NBA talent in comparison to other college programs.
However, since you'd like to use "track record" as an indicator with "superstar" as the outcome...
What college program do you know of has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
Because I don't know any college programs that have been consistent in producing "superstar" talent in recent memory seeing as though the NBA is dominated by players drafted from high school and overseas.
And I'll define "superstar" as a player possessing "MVP or All-NBA team type talent":
- Marquette has produced Dwyane Wade (25 ppg), Wesley Mathews (13), Lazar Hayward (4), Steve Novak (4), and Travis Diener (no longer in the NBA). That would be 1 superstar.
- A good example is Wake Forest: Tim Duncan (21 ppg), Chris Paul (19), Josh Howard (15), Darius Songalia (7), Al-Farouq Aminu (6), James Johnson (5), Jeff Teague (4), and Ishmael Smith (2). That is two superstars mixed with several serviceable players.
- For comparison, Duke: Elton Brand (19 ppg), Grant Hill (1, Carlos Boozer (17 ppg), Corey Maggette (16), Luol Deng (16), Mike Dunleavy (12), Shane Battier (10), J.J. Redick (, Gerald Henderson (7), Chris Duhon (7), Dahntay Jones (6), Josh McRoberts (5), Shelden Williams (5). Brand (2nd), Hill (1st), and Boozer (3rd) have been All-NBA with the rest being serviceable. I'd stack Duke's alumni against any other college program in recent memory.
What college program do you know of that has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
And if/when you reply, I'd like to see your definition of "superstar."
exactly what i was trying to mention in my post...the superstar word is getting used loosely these days....no school drops superstars on a consistant basis...we only have like a handful of superstarts in the league to begin with...
- Apr 4, 2008
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Who the *+$$ cares about Duke and colleges? Take that to the college thread I wanna know what's going on with this draft.
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Who the *+$$ cares about Duke and colleges? Take that to the college thread I wanna know what's going on with this draft.
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I don't follow your argument because it went from "Duke's track record is horrible" to "Duke has produced (no superstars)."
I asked, "which college program has produced a better stable of talent in the NBA?" I didn't ask, "which college program has produced more superstars?"
When you use "track record," you automatically incorporate historical consistency. And history indicates that Duke is just as good, if not better, at consistently producing NBA talent in comparison to other college programs.
However, since you'd like to use "track record" as an indicator with "superstar" as the outcome...
What college program do you know of has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
Because I don't know any college programs that have been consistent in producing "superstar" talent in recent memory seeing as though the NBA is dominated by players drafted from high school and overseas.
And I'll define "superstar" as a player possessing "MVP or All-NBA team type talent":
- Marquette has produced Dwyane Wade (25 ppg), Wesley Mathews (13), Lazar Hayward (4), Steve Novak (4), and Travis Diener (no longer in the NBA). That would be 1 superstar.
- A good example is Wake Forest: Tim Duncan (21 ppg), Chris Paul (19), Josh Howard (15), Darius Songalia (7), Al-Farouq Aminu (6), James Johnson (5), Jeff Teague (4), and Ishmael Smith (2). That is two superstars mixed with several serviceable players.
- For comparison, Duke: Elton Brand (19 ppg), Grant Hill (1, Carlos Boozer (17 ppg), Corey Maggette (16), Luol Deng (16), Mike Dunleavy (12), Shane Battier (10), J.J. Redick (, Gerald Henderson (7), Chris Duhon (7), Dahntay Jones (6), Josh McRoberts (5), Shelden Williams (5). Brand (2nd), Hill (1st), and Boozer (3rd) have been All-NBA with the rest being serviceable. I'd stack Duke's alumni against any other college program in recent memory.
What college program do you know of that has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
And if/when you reply, I'd like to see your definition of "superstar."
exactly what i was trying to mention in my post...the superstar word is getting used loosely these days....no school drops superstars on a consistant basis...we only have like a handful of superstarts in the league to begin with...
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kemba walker>>>>>>>>kyrie irving
flame suit activated
flame suit activated
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kemba walker>>>>>>>>kyrie irving
flame suit activated
flame suit activated
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T0INE
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T0INE
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quik1987
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Agreed
quik1987
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Agreed
im not you
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This is almost as bad as people believing Sean May was better than Andrew Bogut on here in 05.
im not you
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This is almost as bad as people believing Sean May was better than Andrew Bogut on here in 05.
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If Kanter played this year he'd be going number 1 no contest. Dude is legit.
I also think Jimmer is going to fare VERY well in the NBA. He actually has very good athleticism for his size and gets great elevation on his jumpshot. I wanna say he just might be better than Curry........but you dudes will have a panic attack.
I also don't give a damn what anybody says, I still think Brandon Knight will be a better point guard than Kyrie Irving at the end of the day but yall can believe what you want. I want Knight to end up on the Kings.
I also think Jimmer is going to fare VERY well in the NBA. He actually has very good athleticism for his size and gets great elevation on his jumpshot. I wanna say he just might be better than Curry........but you dudes will have a panic attack.
I also don't give a damn what anybody says, I still think Brandon Knight will be a better point guard than Kyrie Irving at the end of the day but yall can believe what you want. I want Knight to end up on the Kings.
