NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. You've falsely stated that the DA who created the agreement (Bruce Castor) reneged on that same agreement, as though this was the office's intent from the beginning. So much for presumed innocence.



I never said that the DA who created the agreement reneged on the same agreement. The office did.

The rest of what you posted was about me personally, my intent and what I personally care about. It seems you think that if it isn’t posted on Niketalk then someone doesn’t care about it.

I’m not going to debate you on how the Mike Brown case or the Central Park 5 case impacted me personally as a black man in America. I live it.
 
I never said that the DA who created the agreement reneged on the same agreement. The office did.
The office is a "he?"

The prosecutor didn’t have enough evidence to prove his case. He made a deal in hopes of pinning Cosby with civil liability. He then reneged on the deal and used deposition testimony, that was open to interpretation, to convict.

You are so bad at this.
 
Can't believe son spends so much time playing fake lawyer he blames this thread for missing stuff but he is absolutely not good.
Mans really typed a sentence that is basically reads as: The fact remains if you change the words in my post, it would mean something different

And that man hit "Post Reply" without an ounce of shame :lol
 
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"There is a higher law than the law of government. That's the law of conscience." - Kwame Ture

I'm no admirer of the carceral state, and would vastly prefer a system of restorative justice rather than one bent on retribution, but it is nonetheless repugnant to watch people celebrate the release of a credibly accused serial rapist on a technicality.
It is especially vulgar to see this cast by Cosby spokesperson Andrew Wyatt as "justice for Black America" when scores of Black women were ignored, abused, scorned and, ultimately, denied justice. Even now, Cosby supporters are swapping disgusting memes denigrating their appearance or behavior. That's a lot of things, but it is not "pro-Black."

Let's not forget how Cosby gallivanted around the country on his "blame tour," denying the persistence of systemic racism, telling people to pull themselves up by their belt-straps, and justifying police lynchings:

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Does that statement appear supportive of "due process" to you?

Should Bill Cosby be in prison?

That's the question.

If there isn't enough evidence to convict a man or woman in a court of law, without a prosecutor employing judicial malpractice, should he or she be imprisoned?

If that's what we are arguing here then the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" means nothing.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Supporting the 5th Amendment ≠ Supporting Bill Cosby

Equal Justice under law...even for the worst of us.

As it relates to Kwame Ture:

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While it is true and I agree with Kwame Ture - his opinion in this case is as irrelevant my own, as neither he nor I have any legal authority or legal accountability.

The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania carries that burden and executed their duty IAW the Constitution of the United States.

Not sure if there is an opportunity to appeal, but if there is then those that oppose their ruling should certainly do so.

I understand people have their own opinions about Cosby (I personally haven't liked him since he fired Lisa Bonnet - way before these allegations) but this is bigger than him - even bigger than his victims.

I seriously doubt they'd enjoy having their suffering reduced to a tool used to degrade everyone else's Constitutional rights - just so some DA can pat himself on the back while claiming he exercised judicial malpractice on their behalf.

Or maybe they don't care. Who knows.

Either way, this precedent cannot be set, nor can it stand.

Our rights matter.

How can we support / hold fundraisers for The Innocence Project one minute and endorse judicial malpractice the next?

Does saying "but its Bill Cosby though" make it Ok?

Is this the true limit of our convictions?
 
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You guys think Cosby is able to answer tough questions if officer Vlad asks? Cosby is pretty old now, not sure if his mental state is sure footed.
 
Didn't the first court/judge ask the DA(castor) and Cosbys lawyers to produce the immunity deal but they couldn't since it wasn't in writing only hear say between them and that's why the initial trial was able to proceed? I thought I read that somewhere but someone correct me if I'm wrong?
 
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Didn't the first court/judge ask the DA(castor) and Cosbys lawyers to produce the immunity deal but they couldn't since it wasn't in writing only hear say between them and that's why the initial trial was able to proceed? I thought I read that somewhere but someone correct me if I'm wrong?

I don’t think it was in writing. But it didn’t need to be.
 
That’s the thing I truly didn’t understand, those high power lawyers didn’t think to get this deal in writing being the nature of his case. But you’re correct, dwalk31 dwalk31 , it’s not needed.

On another note, what I found interesting that some of those women kept going back 3-4 times in knowing what was going on. One went back 15 times, which is probably why Cosby’s presumption of why he’s innocent. Only 1 or 2 women never returned, if I recalled correctly.
 
The former Montgomery County district attorney told WPVI that he only struck the deal when he’d exhausted his legal options to charge Cosby with sex crimes — but felt he could still help accuser Andrea Constand get millions in a civil suit.

“In 2005, I had come to the conclusion that there was not enough evidence to arrest and convict him,” Castor said of the actor and accusations that he drugged and molested Constand in his Pennsylvania mansion in 2004.

“The choices became do nothing or do something. I chose to do something,” said Castor, who this year was part of former President Donald Trump’s legal team in his impeachment trial over the Capitol siege.

Castor offered Cosby immunity from prosecution only if he participated in a deposition where he was unable to plead the Fifth Amendment.

In that deposition, Cosby admitted giving Quaaludes to “women with whom he wanted to have sexual intercourse,” court filings have said.

Castor said his hope had always been that Cosby “would say things that were incriminating and they would then use that to leverage a settlement worth millions of dollars.”

“Well, that’s exactly what happened,” he told WPVI of the $3.5 million payout.

Despite the immunity deal, Cosby was charged by Castor’s successor Kevin Steele in 2015 — after damning details from the 10-year-old deposition had been unsealed — leading to his conviction and three- to 10-year prison sentence in 2018.

But the deal is also why that conviction was overturned Wednesday, with Pennsylvania’s highest court ruling that the immunity should have been upheld and protected Cosby from charges.

Castor insisted he warned Steele of the agreement, noting how the state Supreme Court ruling “cited my memo, my private memo” to the DA at the time.

The memo warned, “Don’t do this because you’re going to have a problem with using the deposition testimony,” he told WPVI, saying that “it only existed because I said I wasn’t going to prosecute Cosby.”

 


Court of Public opinion vs Court of Law.

What exactly is this exercise intended to solve?

Public Relations training? Ok

Twitter Finger training? Ok

If you want to keep this job you'll apologize training? Fine.

But to reduce this issue down to "training" is ridiculous.

Even after "the class" - the people mad at her will still be mad, Rashad will still feel the exact same way as when she sent the tweet, but at least Howard will appear like it took action in the eyes of the Court of Public Opinion.

Howard should fire her if that's how they feel.
 
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